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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Jupiter Ascending - Michael Giacchinio

    Anthony's playlist. Stuff it haters! This is Giacchino at his all time best! For those that have been begging for Giacchino to return to his video game roots (I'm one of those people) then this is it folks! BRILLIANT!

    -Erik-


    Yes, exactly. The whole time I was listening I was thinking, finally, a return to Medal of Honor form!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    It's an Erik Woods score because it's good... that's all.

    -Erik-
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  1. NP - GUNSHI KANBEE - Yugo Kanno

    This is good. It's got a real golden age vibe to it in a lot of tracks. It's excellently composed. It might be a little long, but it's just really good. Here's a score that's not afraid to be huge, epic, or sweepingly romantic. I'm really enjoying this.
  2. Erik Woods wrote
    It's an Erik Woods score because it's good... that's all.

    -Erik-

    Yesh, well, you would say that, wouldn't you. wink
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    christopher wrote
    NP - GUNSHI KANBEE - Yugo Kanno

    This is good. It's got a real golden age vibe to it in a lot of tracks. It's excellently composed. It might be a little long, but it's just really good. Here's a score that's not afraid to be huge, epic, or sweepingly romantic. I'm really enjoying this.


    Agreed. One of the best tv scores of last year.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    NP: INHERENT VICE (Jonny Greenwood)

    Not quite as challenging as his other works -- which is understandable, given it's a comedy -- but it still has some mindblowing harmonic writing, at times influenced by Debussy, I think (like "Shasta Fay").
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      CommentAuthorJim Ware
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015 edited
    Thor wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Jupiter Ascending - Michael Giacchinio

    Anthony's playlist. Stuff it haters! This is Giacchino at his all time best! For those that have been begging for Giacchino to return to his video game roots (I'm one of those people) then this is it folks! BRILLIANT!

    -Erik-


    That this score was very "Erik Woods" was one of the least surprising things ever! I got that vibe after just a few seconds! biggrin

    That being said, I'm also grateful for Anthony's playlist. I'm going to try that eventually, and see if it helps.


    I'm not a fan of shifting the big finale (Commitment) to the beginning - it's the sort of thing John Williams would do! tongue

    Having said that, the album could do with a little pruning to bring it down to one disc.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Jim Ware wrote
    I'm not a fan of shifting the big finale (Commitment) to the beginning - it's the sort of thing John Williams would do! tongue


    You just sold in Ant's playlist even more!
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    It actually works very well, especially as the movements serve as better finales to the album.
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      CommentAuthorJim Ware
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Thor wrote
    Jim Ware wrote
    I'm not a fan of shifting the big finale (Commitment) to the beginning - it's the sort of thing John Williams would do! tongue


    You just sold in Ant's playlist even more!


    biggrin
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015 edited
    Thor wrote
    NP: INHERENT VICE (Jonny Greenwood)

    it still has some mindblowing harmonic writing, at times influenced by Debussy, I think (like "Shasta Fay").


    Debussy, yes, but also Finnish composer Einojuhani Rautavaara ( check out his work Cantus Articus which is up on Spotify, a wonderfully eerie and wonderfully harmonic short-ish piece of work )

    The track The Golden Fang is what you'd have got if Bernard Herrmann had written a track with John Barry.

    The whole album of INHERENT VICE is a great listen.
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    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Jupiter Ascending - Michael Giacchino

    "Flying Dinosaur Fight" is my favorite action cue of the year so far.
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      CommentAuthorJim Ware
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Josh B wrote
    Jupiter Ascending - Michael Giacchino

    "Flying Dinosaur Fight" is my favorite action cue of the year so far.


    A good trial run for Jurassic World I think.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015 edited
    Jim Ware wrote
    Thor wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Jupiter Ascending - Michael Giacchinio

    Anthony's playlist. Stuff it haters! This is Giacchino at his all time best! For those that have been begging for Giacchino to return to his video game roots (I'm one of those people) then this is it folks! BRILLIANT!

    -Erik-


    That this score was very "Erik Woods" was one of the least surprising things ever! I got that vibe after just a few seconds! biggrin

    That being said, I'm also grateful for Anthony's playlist. I'm going to try that eventually, and see if it helps.


    I'm not a fan of shifting the big finale (Commitment) to the beginning - it's the sort of thing John Williams would do! tongue

    Having said that, the album could do with a little pruning to bring it down to one disc.


    Thor wrote
    Jim Ware wrote
    I'm not a fan of shifting the big finale (Commitment) to the beginning - it's the sort of thing John Williams would do! tongue


    You just sold in Ant's playlist even more!


    I'm not usually a fan of doing things like that, but in this case it works!

    With the couple of minor edits I did, I've brought the score down to 1:18:49 so it perfectly fits onto one disc. Even though I keep everything in digital format, I'm still quite OCD in keeping things to CD length.

    Jim Ware wrote
    Josh B wrote
    Jupiter Ascending - Michael Giacchino

    "Flying Dinosaur Fight" is my favorite action cue of the year so far.


    A good trial run for Jurassic World I think.


    I prefer the "with Guts" version but both are very good.
  3. Michael Giacchino - Jupiter Ascending

    In fact, just finished.

    This is Giacchino at his best, really, epic orchestral adventure writing, in which the only modern element is a slightly different approach to themes than in the years of yore. In other words. While the themes are definitely a strong point of this score, they aren't as elaborate or even as melodic as they were before and it's not Giacchino's fault or anyone, it's just the way things are written today and the way even composers started to think of thematic writing. It's not to say they are weaker themes than we had before (though some more radical old-schoolers could say so and I think not completely without merit), they are simply somewhat simpler, but in a good memorable way. It's just a different melodic and harmonic language today and nobody can't be blamed for it, especially Michael Giacchino, who is a rare case of a composer who wants to retain the more classical sound in film music and deserves praise for that alone.

    What I want to disagree with however is that somebody on this board says that Lost is nowhere to be heard in the score. That's not true. The blueprint of Lost's action material is here in the rhythmic material. It's just that Giacchino writes more melodic and tonal action music that he ever did after developing his style in his seminal music for that series. The rhythmic approach, some of the harsher orchestration (possibly owing to the boosted orchestrations in Medal of Honor: Airborne, one of my personal Giacchino favourites), a dissonance here and there. It's just a Michael Giacchino score and nothing else.

    And that is great. I'm happy that there is a modern orchestral composer who is able to compose the modern rhythmic approach which really strong, old-fashioned (saying that in a good way) approach to thematic structure and probably, indeed, outside of Medal of Honor and some of his animation writing, this one must feature one of his strongest thematic material. Kudos, Mr. Giacchino!
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    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015 edited
    I'm going to top your long Jupiter Ascending post with an even longer Jupiter Ascending post. wink

    Erik Woods wrote
    Thanks for the playlist. I'm giving this one a go now. Care to explain why you picked this particular order?

    -Erik-


    I want to expand on this, as I shrugged off giving a proper explanation originally as I needed to go out, and actually a lot of thought went into this.

    Not many people know, but I love making my own albums. Or my own interpretations of albums. One of my favourite things is listening to a score that paints a really good story in my head. I don’t mean all the little details in a story, but a general idea of what could be going on in each scene or cue. Maybe others of you do this too - I hope you do, as it’s so much fun!

    I find this works best with action adventure scores, especially when I haven’t seen the movie and I have no preconceived ideas of how the music fits together. But the important thing is it feels like I’m being told a story from beginning through the middle to the end. Really strong music in the case of Jupiter Ascending makes this easy.

    I’m all for special editions and complete scores - not so I can listen to the whole thing every time - but so I have as many options as possible when making my own albums. Sometimes this is just a simple re-ordering of tracks, but most of the time I’ll have a go at editing - joining bits together (or sometimes taking them apart), removing uninteresting sections, and generally keeping the flow (and story) moving. (I’ve got a kick-ass version of Cutthroat Island that requires no editing at all.)

    I know there are a lot of people out on the internet that do a similar thing and end up with amateur sounding results, but I’m genuinely putting a lot of effort in to do it properly and to a high standard. I’ve done this to probably over 100 albums and I’d happily do this as a job.

    I realise that last paragraph may make me sound douchey, so I thought I’d give a brief “why” behind this playlist and my thought process when putting it together. In this case, the music is incredibly strong, and my album only has very minor edits and mostly just involved re-ordering the tracks.

    Maybe even just make a quick playlist of the following tracks and read about each one as you listen to it. See if it paints a similar picture in your head.

    01. Commitment - I always like starting albums by presenting the main theme(s) so there’s something to build on throughout the rest of the album. I know in this case we have the 4 suites, but as I’ll write later, these work much better at the end. I also like getting into some action quickly. I wouldn’t generally put a finale track right at the beginning, but this one ticks both of the previous boxes. It also introduces the big heroic theme at the end, which otherwise appears suddenly about 3/4 of the way through the regular album. You can imagine this track working as a main title cue and a prologue with some kind of voiceover - something along the lines of what the the opening track in Lord of The Rings did.

    02. Flying Dinosaur Fight - I’d generally not put two action cues so close together, especially at the start of an album, but this score is so action heavy I needed to fit this somewhere. This track is exciting but not too dramatic. It also only features the main theme which has already been established (instead of introducing more themes), so works great as a standalone track. It could also be a great foreshadow of the more ballsy “with Guts” version heard at the end of the album. I’d put this in the “fun” action category opposed to the “big epic finale” category. If the previous track served as a prologue, this could be an action scene taking place in the present. Think of how The Last Crusade has it’s train prologue, then heads straight into the boat scene.

    03. The Titus Clipper - By this point I’m in dire need of something quieter. The track suggests all is well before turning sinister at the end. It serves a similar purpose as “Elena and Esperanza” in Horner’s Zorro score. I cut the quiet part at the end out to speed up the pace a little. As the key doesn’t change, I moved the very last note to 5:27 so the ending still sounds very natural.

    04. The Abrasax Family Tree - Evil! Baddies! Act 2! I cut the loud intro out as we hear it later in the cue, and it’s a lot more fun hearing the creepy version of the theme first. This track introduces the bad-guy theme which appears several times later throughout the score.

    05. It’s A Hellava Chase - Due to the length of the previous track, I again wanted to change to something completely different. Cue another long action scene. This one feels like it would be later on in a score when you’re already a bit into the story. I don’t know why - it just does. The themes we’ve heard previously get a good workout too and it’s fun to start hearing them mix together.

    06. Digging Up The Flirt - This is a very loud album, and this track really serves as a breather. It’s got another nice interpretation of the main theme, plus the ending suggests there is some kind of twist. Maybe the heroes get captured.

    07. Scrambled Eggs and 08. Dinosaur To New Heights - I do live creepy dissonant music like this. The heroes are held captive. They don't know where they are. They’re at a low point. The baddie gives a monologue before leaving them to be tortured.

    09. The Houses Of Abrasax - Nearing defeat, the goodies escape or get rescued. Making their way through the baddies stronghold, they learn of their evil plans and make some kind of discovery.

    10. The Shadow Chase - The baddies discover the escaped heroes. An epic chase ensues, but by the end the baddies haven’t been outrun.

    11. Abdicate This! - Time is running out. The heroes know what they have to do to defeat evil, but the baddies appear sure of their victory. A fight ensues. One of the protagonists does something unexpectedly heroic - cue return of the epic theme in the first track.

    12. Family Jeopardy - The hero arrives wherever it is where they need to do whatever it is to save the world. The baddies still haven’t been defeated and show up just in time to put a stop to things. The epic theme returns and the heroes save the day.

    13. Flying Dinosaur Fight with Guts - The world is saved, but the baddies still need to be defeated or the goodies need to escape. A final fight or chase sees victory.

    14. 1st Movement - Triumph! But all is not well. Maybe a hero is gravely injured. They appear to die a heroic death. Mourning.

    15. 2nd Movement - Life carries on, but with the absence of one of the heroes, things feel different.

    16. 3rd Movement - Sadness continues, but a revelation occurs - the thought-to-be-dead hero is alive! Roll end credits!

    17. 4th Movement - A great run through of the main themes again before ending on a mysterious and unsettling note. Jurassic Parks ends on the raptor theme…how creepy is that! Cue the inevitable sequel.

    I like how I wrote less and less as each track went on. It would be interesting to find out if anybody else hears a similar story in the music when put in this order. Maybe you even have your own playlist which tells another story?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Am I the only one here who didn't get all fuzzy inside over this score?
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    NP: GREYSTOKE: THE LEGEND OF TARZAN (John Scott)

    My favourite Tarzan film. Scott's score is excellent too -- from the broad, "English" elegance to the primal dissonance of the beast within -- especially that weird percussive effect in the 'pygmyes' track. A serpent?
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    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Thor wrote
    Am I the only one here who didn't get all fuzzy inside over this score?


    Yes. Frankly I think you should see someone about it. wink
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Thor wrote
    Am I the only one here who didn't get all fuzzy inside over this score?


    Shut up, Meg.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    The Little Mermaid - Alan Menken

    God, this is wonderful. And what 37-year-old straight man doesn't love the music of Alan Menken?
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Thor wrote
    NP: GREYSTOKE: THE LEGEND OF TARZAN (John Scott)

    My favourite Tarzan film. Scott's score is excellent too -- from the broad, "English" elegance to the primal dissonance of the beast within -- especially that weird percussive effect in the 'pygmyes' track. A serpent?


    Great score.

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  4. Anthony wrote
    I want to expand on this, as I shrugged off giving a proper explanation originally as I needed to go out, and actually a lot of thought went into this.

    Not many people know, but I love making my own albums. Or my own interpretations of albums. One of my favourite things is listening to a score that paints a really good story in my head. I don’t mean all the little details in a story, but a general idea of what could be going on in each scene or cue. Maybe others of you do this too - I hope you do, as it’s so much fun!


    Wow! I was very impressed by your post, Anthony. That's cool that give that much thought into putting together your own albums that play best for you. I appreciated getting an insight into how you work through that. Just very cool!

    I haven't the score yet, but when I do I'll give both presentations a listen. If yours is shorter I'm sure I'll like it better (long action scores really bore me). Thanks for sharing both the playlist and your explanation of it. I've only reordered one of my scores, and the changes I made to that were very minimal. What you do is really impressive.
  5. Thor wrote
    Am I the only one here who didn't get all fuzzy inside over this score?


    It seems so. But Ihave been in the same position before. Guess everyone here has. smile

    PS: I'll read Anthony's post some time tomorrow. cool
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Anthony wrote
    I know there are a lot of people out on the internet that do a similar thing and end up with amateur sounding results, but I’m genuinely putting a lot of effort in to do it properly and to a high standard. I’ve done this to probably over 100 albums and I’d happily do this as a job.

    I realise that last paragraph may make me sound douchey


    Not at all! Keep doing what you're doing. beer
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Southall wrote
    The Little Mermaid - Alan Menken

    God, this is wonderful. And what 37-year-old straight man doesn't love the music of Alan Menken?


    Amen to that!
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Thor wrote
    Am I the only one here who didn't get all fuzzy inside over this score?


    I think so, yeah.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Josh B wrote
    Thor wrote
    Am I the only one here who didn't get all fuzzy inside over this score?


    I think so, yeah.


    Seems that way. I'll wait patiently untill more members have heard it. Surely, there "must be another".
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  6. It will probably be me...
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      CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2015 edited
    NP: Lost Themes - John Carpenter

    Unfortunately, I didn't really like everything on this album. But there's a few tracks on this that are keepers. "Vortex" does a good job of summing up all that I find so great in the old John Carpenter synths sound. Reminds me a lot of Halloween III: Season of the Witch - which is an excellent property to have in a piece of music! (Has a touch of Christine in it too.)
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