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- CommentTimeOct 28th 2015
NP: SPECTRE - Thomas Newman
Unfortunately I do seem to find myself agreeing with the camp who really can't be bothered with this.
I think Tim summed it up really properly: "there are some good bits".
That's about all that's useful to share on this.
Moving on.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeOct 28th 2015
NP: Freud (1962) - Jerry Goldsmith
The VS Deluxe Edition of 2009 was in the mail today. Well, this is quite something! Modernist intellectual Goldsmith. I saw the film several ages ago. Fantastic music if not an easy listening experience.
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentTimeOct 28th 2015
Martijn wrote
NP: SPECTRE - Thomas Newman
Unfortunately I do seem to find myself agreeing with the camp who really can't be bothered with this.
I think Tim summed it up really properly: "there are some good bits".
That's about all that's useful to share on this.
Moving on.
Yeah.... -
- CommentTimeOct 28th 2015
Back to the Future II - Al Silv
"Less of the same" I guess. The best bit is when the BTTF3 theme makes its appearance at the end. -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeOct 28th 2015
Easily the least of the three. -
- CommentTimeOct 28th 2015
Yes. I'd never heard it outside the film before. I'm glad I only paid for the download and not the eyewatering Intrada price. -
- CommentTimeOct 28th 2015
Dennis wrote
I love to put scores in chronological film order
We can actually make a thread where we discuss this....
Thor would love that!
As for me, I generally prefer film music to be presented in the order it appears in the film, so that the music recreates the experience of the film. This really only matters to me if I enjoyed the film, though, which pretty excludes everything Jerry Goldsmith ever scored....
One score that I think is MUCH better in chronological order than on the album as it was produced is JNH's THE VILLAGE
NP - La Terre Vue Du Ciel - Armand Amar
First listen to this 2004 documentary. It's nice! -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Spectre - Thomas Newman
I enjoyed this very much. I actually like how moody and surprisingly subdued much of it is; the piano theme that plays in "Secret Room," "Safe House," and "Out of Bullets" is especially superb and it's classic Newman. I also like that he called back to some of his music from Skyfall, most notably "The Eternal City" and "Tempus Fugit."
Now I just have to see the movie... -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Martijn wrote
It must be a burden being the measure of all things...
Naahh... I think we all know who has the FACTS on everything... -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Aye, that would be me, of course.
Through some weird burp in the Universe I can be technically overruled by Bregt, but we'll let that slide for now.
We will discuss this at some point in time, in person.
Then, at a safe distance, Timmer sometimes has the right of it.
Steven does at occasion not talk nonsense either.
But that's about it, I guess?
For the rest I really rather despise all you puny humans.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015 edited
SPECTRE
The first track showed promise, but this album seems awfully long and awfully bland. It doesn't feel like a Bond score either. Quite generic, and sadly, my least favourite Bond score since Goldeneye. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Anthony wrote
SPECTRE
The first track showed promise, but this album seems awfully long and awfully bland. It doesn't feel like a Bond score either. Quite generic, and sadly, my least favourite Bond score since Goldeneye.
FWIW, it does sound like a Thomas Newman score. A Bond score, this isn't. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Tempora mutantur: Bond has changed, the music has changed. This score accompanies a Bond film, it has Bond printed on its cover, so yes, this is a Bond score. I'm not crazy about it, I like Skyfall better, but I have yet to see the movie to really make up my mind about Newman's Spectre. Basically I like it.
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015 edited
I like a lot of what I heard in the film itself (which I saw today), but not sure how it holds up on album. I'll get to that eventually. But whichever way you put it, this is John Powell's seminal BOURNE sound channeled through Thomas Newman -- only not as good as Powell.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Is it? I thought it was the sound of Newman being more confident (or perhaps, being allowed) to be himself this time round, with less of the Arnold-style stuff than in Skyfall (which admittedly wasn't all that much). I don't get the Powell sound from it. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
I agree. I perceive Powell's Bourne as something rather different.Bach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Captain Future wrote
Tempora mutantur: Bond has changed, the music has changed. This score accompanies a Bond film, it has Bond printed on its cover, so yes, this is a Bond score. I'm not crazy about it, I like Skyfall better, but I have yet to see the movie to really make up my mind about Newman's Spectre. Basically I like it.
Volker
Casino Royale had a different Bond in it and the score is a Bond score, with an Arnold touch. Even Quantum Solace had a Bondian score to backup a revenge seeking Bond. Spectre (and Skyfall) is basically Thomas Newman doing a spy score while being force to jam in a Bond theme. I don't "dislike" the score. I'm indifferent toward it and thinks it's incredibly boring as a "Bond score". It's only better than Eric Serra's score. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
SPECTRE Thomas Newman
My own edit, if anyone's interested:
1. Los Muertos Vivos Estan and Vauxhall Bridge (4:08)
2. The Eternal City (1:47)
3. Donna Lucia (2:03)
4. The Pale King and Hinx (1:56)
5. A Place Without Mercy (1:04)
6. Tempus Fugit (1:21)
7. Careless Blindfold (2:11)
8. Detonation (3:53)
9. Crows Klinik (1:41)
10. Snow Plane (5:24)
11. Westminster Bridge (4:14)
12. Backfire (4:54)
13. Out Of Bullets (1:51)
14. Safe House (3:55)
40:17
I think it's an improvement. But then I would say that. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Suffragette - Alexandre Desplat
Has some very good parts. -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Captain Future wrote
Tempora mutantur: Bond has changed, the music has changed. This score accompanies a Bond film, it has Bond printed on its cover, so yes, this is a Bond score.
That's a bullshit argument. It's meaningless and you can use it to defend any weak or unfitting entry in a franchise. Goldeneye has Bond on the cover but that doesn't make it any less incompetent. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015 edited
Captain Future wrote
I agree. I perceive Powell's Bourne as something rather different.
Plenty of Powell in Newman's Bond scores and SPECTRE, far more so than Arnold (which is another kettle of fish altogether) -- everything from the 16th notes and chord variations to riffs on 'world music vibes'. Not saying that Newman cannot be heard (he definitely can), but it has Bourne all over it, as have most Bond and action films since 2002.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
I guess the riffs on world music vibes Newman was doing in the early 90s were also courtesy of John Powell. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
The Last Boy Scout - Michael Kamen
No riffs on world music vibes here, and no John Powell. Basically a more film noirish version of Die Hard. Entertaining. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Edmund Meinerts wrote
Captain Future wrote
Tempora mutantur: Bond has changed, the music has changed. This score accompanies a Bond film, it has Bond printed on its cover, so yes, this is a Bond score.
That's a bullshit argument. It's meaningless and you can use it to defend any weak or unfitting entry in a franchise. Goldeneye has Bond on the cover but that doesn't make it any less incompetent.
Provided one commands the eternal truth about how Bond music ought to sound like. If Bond hadn't changed that way it did the franchise probably wouldn't exist any more. God help Alexandre Desplat scoring Star Wars.Bach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015 edited
Southall wrote
Is it? I thought it was the sound of Newman being more confident (or perhaps, being allowed) to be himself this time round, with less of the Arnold-style stuff than in Skyfall (which admittedly wasn't all that much). I don't get the Powell sound from it.
I agree completely. It sounded as if unlike with Skyfall (which I loved), Newman made this score into his own image and style, which I care about infinitely more than whether or not it sounds like a "Bond score."
By the way, is there a review coming any time soon? -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Southall wrote
I guess the riffs on world music vibes Newman was doing in the early 90s were also courtesy of John Powell.
No.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015 edited
Steven wrote
SPECTRE Thomas Newman
My own edit, if anyone's interested:
1. Los Muertos Vivos Estan and Vauxhall Bridge (4:08)
2. The Eternal City (1:47)
3. Donna Lucia (2:03)
4. The Pale King and Hinx (1:56)
5. A Place Without Mercy (1:04)
6. Tempus Fugit (1:21)
7. Careless Blindfold (2:11)
8. Detonation (3:53)
9. Crows Klinik (1:41)
10. Snow Plane (5:24)
11. Westminster Bridge (4:14)
12. Backfire (4:54)
13. Out Of Bullets (1:51)
14. Safe House (3:55)
40:17
I think it's an improvement. But then I would say that.
No "Madeleine"? No "Eternal City"? And I happened to like the End Titles cue. -
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2015
Kevin Scarlet wrote
Southall wrote
Is it? I thought it was the sound of Newman being more confident (or perhaps, being allowed) to be himself this time round, with less of the Arnold-style stuff than in Skyfall (which admittedly wasn't all that much). I don't get the Powell sound from it.
I agree completely. It sounded as if unlike with Skyfall (which I loved), Newman made this score into his own image and style, which I care about infinitely more than whether or not it sounds like a "Bond score."
By the way, is there a review coming any time soon?
Yes... maybe at the weekend. -
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2015
JUDGE DREDD | alan silvestri
Among my favourite scores of him. The awesomeness of its main theme, the punding percussion and the great Finale tracks. Fantastic.Kazoo -
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2015
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