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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2008
    omaha wrote
    I play the violin, mandolin, string bass, and bass guitar.

    I'm beginning the guitar and harmonica.

    I want to learn the bagpipes. biggrin


    Don't forget Kazoo, Spoons and washboard wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthoromaha
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2008
    Timmer wrote
    omaha wrote
    I play the violin, mandolin, string bass, and bass guitar.

    I'm beginning the guitar and harmonica.

    I want to learn the bagpipes. biggrin


    Don't forget Kazoo, Spoons and washboard wink


    Indeed, I need to add those to the list. haha
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2008
    bass trombone and trombone
    Thomas smile
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorzirael
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2008
    Piano, clarinet, bassoon. One of those high school bandies, though I didn't do marching band. I usually flubbed those piano grade exams. tongue
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      CommentAuthorRian
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2008
    I can play the piano. For the last 4-5 years I didn't play a note, but I have recently started playing again; it's really relaxing now. Currently trying to get through the Battlestar Sonatica by Bear McCreary.
    What do you hear? Nothing but the rain...
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2008
    This has been a nice discussion here again last weekend.
    I'd really like my kids to play a musical instrument. I bought some whistles and such for them to play with and they liked it but not very much...

    School offered lessons so that seemed like a good opportunity but the kids were not interested.
    This weekend I brought it up again and asked if they would like to play a musical instrument. Then Quinn said, 'Hmmm, I don't know, perhaps just piano or guitar'.
    cheesy

    Yay! I think that's great. Then I asked Julian but he is a bit younger and not really thinking about these kind of things. I suddenly thought that percussion might be something because he has a lot of energy so I mentioned that and he was very excited! And when we talked a bit more about music he said 'Drums would be nice. Or cello.'
    dizzy

    Don't know where he got that cello from, but anyway, they are a bit interested now. So I'll go find out what they can do. There is one extensive music school here in town, a very good one, with many dislocations in different areas, but it's a bit expensive and I think you need to start in september. So I need to find out if there are other music teachers who work independently and maybe a bit cheaper.

    When I grew up my parents always said to me 'you can do one sport and one musical instrument' and that's why I did. I started with different instruments in a bagpipe band and later on I played guitar for a couple of years and that's it. It would be nice to pick something up again, maybe I can play along with the kids then, although I don't want to push them to do the things I never did.
    wink
  1. Come to think of it, it's not a bad idea to play WITH the kids, I guess they might appreciate the fact that you don't try to show yourself as the perfect one, who can play everything, but just learn with them.

    CELLO - my favorite solo instrument. That said by a weak keyboardist and drummer biggrin
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2008
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Come to think of it, it's not a bad idea to play WITH the kids, I guess they might appreciate the fact that you don't try to show yourself as the perfect one, who can play everything, but just learn with them.

    Or even better: they could teach me. smile
  2. Rather it would be teaching each other, I guess.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2010
    A way to create your own piece of music: http://wwww.inbflat.net/
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2010
    Is there a porn version?
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2010
    I'm self teaching myself guitar.

    Day one

    Managed to tune it and I can play E major.

    Day two

    I can play A major as well

    I can remember the fingering for D major but it's so painful to play I've had to take a break. Come on calluses! Die skin!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2010
    Noticed Keith Richards fingers on the Culture Show last week, looks like he could play strings coated in ground glass no problem.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2010 edited
    Timmer wrote
    Noticed Keith Richards fingers on the Culture Show last week, looks like he could play strings coated in ground glass no problem.


    Not really sure what that means, but he was never that big a guitarist, in my eyes, at least not in later years. I saw the Stones live in 2007, and he screwed up every other note. Which is part of the Stones' slightly askew charm, of course, but I wouldn't necessarily call it good "guitaring".
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 5th 2010
    Well, he's responsible for some of the most famous guitar riffs ever heard.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2010
    I whistle.

    cheesy


    Actually, I used to play piano as a kid. I played lots of Hisaishi/Miyazaki music, including a piece from Laputa at a recital... it was a duet with my teacher, who played much louder than me, so the audience didn't hear me hitting wrong keys biggrin

    I quitted going lessons when I was a teen, because I lost my interest in music at that moment (even though I usually enjoyed "music in films"), and also because I wanted to disobey anything my mom said wink

    Since then I've never touched a piano for almost 10 years...
    Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2010
    I think F major is quite hard to play in the beginning of learning guitar as well, because the position is slightly hard to hold. Got terrible calluses in the beginning but got used to it later. I need to start practicing again, it's been quite a while!
  3. I started out by playing the piano (but forgot everything about it, except how to read sheet music).
    Then I played a bit of transverse flute, which I also didn't continue.
    Now I only play a bit of guitar (let's just say I know all major and minor chords and every chord that has a seven in it, what makes that? 35 odd chords or so) and I sing along with it.

    Elin
    Recognizing somebody else's strength doesn't diminish your own (Joss Whedon)
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2012
    Update! (It's really funny to read my own post above from... 2008!)

    My daughter owns a keyboard, she got it years ago, but started using it last year really. I'm very impressed the things she taught herself. She likes to play up stairs in her room so I didn't hear it before until she said she could play the intro of Birdy's Skinny Love. I thought she was talking about the melody or something, but she started playing and it was the chords and everything. The real thing!

    Apparently she searched for clips on YouTube of the Synthesia program and that's how she taught herself. It's really good and she is learning fast. So I've asked again if she would be interested in lessons because the risk of doing it yourself is putting the fingers wrong and things like that? So far she can play Skyfall, something by Jason Mraz, Birdy and a couple more songs.

    Last night we had some fun with the keyboard and I tried some filmmusic that was available with Synthesia. Great fun. I started with Davy Jones and it took me a while to be able to do separate things with the left and right hand but anyway... I managed. These kind of programs make making music more accessible, wish we had something like that when I was young! But again, I wonder what the risk is of learning to play 'the wrong way'. What do pianists here think of Synthesia?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2012 edited
    Cool! Nurture your child's talent, Bregje. When I was kid (from age 4-5), I fooled around on the piano too and clearly had a musical talent as I easily learned melodies, composed my own and even found out chords (without the aid of Synethesia or anything else). One of my regrets is that my parents didn't hear or see this properly and failed to arrange lessons for me. If they had, who knows where I would have been? Maybe a practitioning musician?
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorCaliburn
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2012
    So a lot of you film music lovers are not active as musicians? That surprises me a bit.

    I am an active tuba player since I was young. I fool around with the bass guitar a bit. But you do not want to hear that :-)
  4. The Piano and keyboard (e-piano; vintage organs; melotron; vintage synth pads and leads).

    I (almost) can't read music and its all playing by ear, so my abilities are pretty limited. It's enaugh though, to impress little children, to be of some musical use at school, on birthdays and on Christmas. I master C,D,F,G and A major, A and D minor, everything else needs practicing.

    At one of my last graduation balls I played and sang Alphaville's "Forever Young" for my leaving students and that caused everybody to cry. They asured me it was due to the song not to the performance ... cheesy

    My parents made several attampts at having me learn the piano properly, but my ability to memorize and reproduce melodies got in the way of that. I just saw no sense in learning what I thought I already knew.

    I don't really regret that. As long as I enjoy myself playing the piano my way, all is fine.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2012 edited
    I'm not a pianist (my instrument of choice is the classical guitar), but I am a firm believer in that there IS no "right" way. I know SO many musicians (of all kinds of instruments) that are totally self-taught, that I really wouldn't worry about it.

    In my experience a teacher or lessons are useful only
    A) when you're really young and have next to no experience at all (and that's just a matter of efficiency: you simply learn faster that way)
    B) when you're "stuck" and need some guidance to bring your technique to the next level.

    Me, I did bave lessons when I was very young, and it's one thing I always will be unconditionally indebted to my parents about, especially in that they held fast about it, even when, as a headstrong and annoying child ( wink ), I wanted to quit (dozens of times!!). But in later life I have been sooooo grateful to have mastered the basics (and a bit beyond)!

    I really feel that , unless a child is totally unmusical of course, it is one of the richest gifts you can make a child, to have them learn an instrument.

    Your daughter is already doing herself that favour, Bregje.
    I wouldn't worry too much about 'needing to step in'.
    Just keep an eye on when she might get frustrated or stuck and maybe step in then? smile

    But overall: great stuff! I adore a musical family!! love
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  5. David spends quite a bit of time in his room playing on his keyboard (not a euphemism) and, like you Bregje, we don't see him for a while then he comes to play something.

    David tends to record what he plays and we have to guess what he has done. Morricone (Dollars trilogy) and Zimmer (Inception) are favourites of his at the moment.

    When Rachel used to play the cornet she did a great rendition of the Titanic theme - which was great.

    Me? I sometimes try to recreate themes on the keyboard. But I have had to label the keys and build the theme from trial-and-error.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2012
    Does David read notes? Or does he use programs or YouTube clips like from Synthesia?

    It's worth to take a look at Synthesia. You can even try it yourself, it does make it much easier. I also noticed there's a great selection of Einaudi's music as well. And popular film music.

    Una Mattina: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tIznIhfiL3o

    Here's Davy Jones, I learned last night: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SjB-_ejiKH4

    And this is what my daughter taught herself... I still think it's amazing: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugBkZh4Ykyw

    There's enough filmmusic to find, from easy to hard!
  6. Will definitely give Synthesia a go!

    David just does it by ear, listening to the music and finding the appropriate note on the keyboard.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2012
    Yup, I have a degree in classical piano performance, so I guess that means I'm a pianist. wink
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeDec 25th 2012
    Well? Pianist, what's your answer to my question then? wink :

    What do you think of programs like Synthesia? And how do you feel about self-taught playing?
    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeDec 25th 2012
    I think it's extremely important to have a teacher, especially in the beginning. Only a teacher can correct problems with posture and hand position.
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      CommentAuthorchristopher
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2012 edited
    Bregje, I think it's very important that the child have some control over the direction their musical "education" takes. your daughter is really self-motivated right now, and that's a great thing. This is the first I've ever heard of synthesia. From what little I now understand about it, it seems that synthesia is more in the business of distributing fish, rather than teaching you how to fish. Is that an accurate assessment? If that's true, then that would be your biggest reason to go for a formal teacher, as long as they were a good teacher. However, if formal lessons would make your daughter less excited about playing music, then maybe it would be best not to do them. I think helping our kids make informed choices is best for their musical talents.

    I responded very well to having formal teachers. My brother did not. He got far better at the piano after he quit lessons and just started playing the things that he likes. He found formal lessons too limiting. I will say, though, that because he didn't stick with them, he's not as skilled a pianist as I am. But he plays everything he wants to play - he's not interested in the harder classical stuff anyway. He found his own way and I think it suits him really well.

    That never would have worked for me. I wasn't motivated enough to practice on my own without the accountability of a teacher. That kept me practicing, and practice is the single greatest contributor to skill with any instrument, imo. My first teacher was also able to teach me to play in ways that I would not have figured out on my own. I took lesson from her for 9 years. By the end of those lessons I think she had taught me most of what she knew. Once I started studying at a university I took lessons from a professor there for a semester. He was amazing. He taught me ways of looking at a piece of music that I had never thought of, things about fingering, dynamics, and practice techniques that led to incredible gains in a short time. Had I been learning from him from the beginning I think I would have been a much more technically skilled pianist than I am. At the same time, he noticed elements of my performance that were unique and exciting to him - elements that I think would have been trained out of me if I had taken lessons from a man like him from the beginning.

    I agree with Martijn that there is not a right way. I do think teachers can teach us things we can't teach ourselves, and that every teacher (as long as they are a good teacher (and I don't think the importance of the quality of teacher can be overstated)) will add something different to our talents. Formal musical education isn't for everyone. Some find the structure too rigid and limiting. Those in the beginning stages may find lessons to be less enjoyable than just learning on their own however and whatever they would like. Something I think that a lot of people don't realize, though, is that while taking lessons may require a person to sacrifice a little "freedom" in the short term, those who stick with it will develop a skill set that gives them greater freedom to play whatever they would like to play in the long run. Of course if what they want to play isn't technically difficult, then maybe lessons aren't so important.