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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment I would not count on anything in HENRI IV being by Zimmer except the basic structure of the title theme (which is clearly derivative of earlier Zimmer work anyway). It has Jackman's fingerprints all over it.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 23rd 2015
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- discussion topic MARK McKENZIE
- Comment The longest track in Dragonheart 2 is 4:53 but I suppose it could be a suite or something. Is it a real orchestra? I am too stupid to tell apparently.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 23rd 2015
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- discussion topic MARK McKENZIE
- Comment Good words. I did find myself a bit disappointed by the sampled instruments and generally RC-lite feel to the proceedings (similar to how some Doyle scores have sounded in the Eragon - Rise of the Planet of the Apes era, although a case could be made that McKenzie manages to blend those conventions ...
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- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 23rd 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment That is a really interesting tidbit indeed. Thank you.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 22nd 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment Just to clarify, that was in jest, I was not really mad :tongue:
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 22nd 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment Stop debating semantics with other people and excluding me!! :angry:
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 21st 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment I'm not sure it's fully either one of those, since he was instructed to score the film as 100% serious as if it were live-action. So if anything, I would say pastiche, but I have issues with that word in this context too :tongue:
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 21st 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment For the purposes of this thread I consider Thor to be a critic. Especially since he's an IFMCA member if I remember correctly.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 21st 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Erik Woods wrote[/b] Ok... a few examples over the past few years. [url=http://www.cinematicsound.net/the-best-scores-of-2013/]REMEMBER ME[/url] [url=http://www.cinematicsound.net/top-15-scores-of-2014/]WORLD OF WARCRAFT: WARLORDS OF DRAENOR[/url] ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 21st 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment I think it can be irritating and even insulting to an artist and by lesser extension fans of their work, when works which are not intended or recognized by the artist to be pastiche, are labeled as such by critics. If the work is intended as an original creation and it gets labelled as pastiche, ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 21st 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment With so many themes / motifs, such a huge ensemble, such riveting recording quality? Such classical film-music-like structure? I thought I was fairly clued in to what is going on in the game scoring world, and Lair is still a step above most of the rest to me. I didn't mean there are no such scores ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment I feel like I have a fairly firm grasp on the idea of "pastiche". The difference is, with Debney and McNeely, one can clearly point to the music they are "pastiche"-ing. Not so with McKenzie. It sounds like you are not familiar enough with his work to recognize his unique voice. ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment NP: [b]Lair [/b]- John Debney & Kevin Kaska The La-la-Land Records edition whose existence I somehow missed until recently. It's really incredible that a score like this was ever written for a video game. Unfortunate that the game sold poorly and did not a start a new trend of video game music ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] You said it -- "period"! It doesn't have to be specific composers. The neo-romantic style is that which all film music hails from (first molded by the stylings of Wagner, Mahler, Strauss and so on).[/quote] But his music doesn't sound like any of those composers! ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment But if he's not imitating the style of any particular composer, at least partially, how can you call it a pastiche? Taking existing musical conventions and combining them in ways that nobody has ever done before is the very definition of originality! "pastiche" - noun - "an artistic ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment Who exactly is McKenzie's music a pastiche of, so that I may go listen to this composer??
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment Compared to the Hooper scores it's positively miraculous. So much melodic beauty. And that's not a knock on Hooper, he simply wasn't prepared for work of that scope and he himself admitted as much.
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- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic JAMES HORNER
- Comment Question for everyone: consider the main theme of [b]Wolf Totem[/b]. If you could ascribe one word or phrase to the emotion or abstract sensation this theme creates in your mind/heart/spirit, what would it be? Feel free to elaborate on your choice.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment [quote][b]Southall wrote[/b] Pastiche my arse.[/quote] More along the lines of my out-of-context reaction to that description. In line with my comments about Elfman I assume, in good faith, that his statement about McKenzie was equally subject to personal taste and not standing in judgement of the ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 20th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment I see your subtle jibe and I accept it as fitting in context ;)
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Erik Woods wrote[/b] NP: [b]Cinderella[/b] - [i]Patrick Doyle[/i] Breezy, classy and elegant. Gorgeous music! -Erik-[/quote] Another stunning entry in what is looking like one of the best years of the new century for film score fans, if the rest of the year follows suit at all. I ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic PATRICK DOYLE
- Comment Insightful thoughts, Synchrotones. I also found it to be one of the most mature and well constructed scores from Doyle, an especially pleasant surprise after his recent journeys into Remote Control territory since [b]Eragon[/b]. I didn't know if we were ever going to get this side of Doyle again, ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Captain Future wrote[/b] The pilot score CD not so much.[/quote] Indeed.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] ...Plus, he pretty much abandoned it in the early 90s. [/quote] Explain the existence of Frankeweenie and Alice then :tongue: I am not trying say he is a bad composer or that there is anything wrong with him. There is just nothing in his music that personally attracts ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment I have heard the Sommersby tracks on Music for a Darkened Theater and enjoyed them but didn't figure the whole score worth obtaining, especially since at the time I was considering it, it was totally out of print. Thanks for the suggestion though, I might give it another chance.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic PATRICK DOYLE
- Comment It is definitely a score that demands you join with its' own moods as opposed to adapting to yours.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment [quote][b]Bregt wrote[/b] Scribe probably hasn't heard:[/quote] I've heard the first two. Shawshank is way too full of meandering drama tones and Little Women is a huge exception compared to the majority of Newman scores I've sampled. I've probably heard the wrong ones but the ratio of ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment NP: Star Wars The Clone Wars - Kevin Kiner I am watching the show and I have to give Kiner his credit for firmly sticking to the leitmotif concept. I may not like some of the simplistic orchestrations and the underwhelming recording, but he just quoted Qui-Gon's theme. QUI-GON'S THEME. One of the ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment No. Elfman is too "lalala quirky"* except for a few isolated scores, and Newman just deeply bores me with his suspense and action music. "The Letter That Never Came" is one of my all-time favorite cues from any composer and he has done a few other similar pieces over the years ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 19th 2015
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- discussion topic THOMAS NEWMAN
- Comment This is the 2nd time in as many weeks that I've missed an assignment change news because it was discussed in the composer who got the new assignment (Elfman and Newman) and not in the thread of the composer who lost the assignment (Tyler and Williams). I guess I should be clicking on all the ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 18th 2015