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      CommentAuthorManwe
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
    Filmscoregirl wrote
    Oh, oops, you're right. Haha :D I didn't mean to say First Knight, I meant to say Robin Hood. Was thinking one thing and typing another.

    Michael Kamen scores I have/tried:

    Don Juan DeMarco
    Mr. Holland's Opus
    Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
    The Three Musketeers
    101 Dalmations

    smile


    Including his three best scores... well, I guess that all music is just not for everyone. (For those not familiar with my opinion on Kamen, that list includes two of my top ten favourites of all time...)

    Personally, Brian Tyler has never really clicked with me. I do like his Children of Dune quite a lot, but other than that I must say that he has failed to impress me. I don't know why, it just doesn't do anything to me.
    - What matters is the music -
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      CommentAuthorbartley
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007 edited
    Any of you heard his score for Band of Brothers? I believe that is Michael Kamen.. the only Kamen I own.
    As far as someone not clicking, I would have to refer to the score.. rather than composer. From my listenings it seems that some good composers can come out with a score I just can't stand. Like for example, Patrick Doyle's "Eragon" score. One score I didn't like due to the repetitive theme. But I did like his score for Henry the V... (same guy right?)
  1. Ok, Demetris - I guess I can try again, I mean I want to like the guy's music. smile And the funny thing is, is that his music sounds just fine, well constructed, nice themes, etc. - just somehow emotionally, he's never grabbed me. But I'm sure Band of Brothers is a very powerful score that comes from a powerful miniseries, and I might find what I've been missing in that soundtrack, and wasn't Open Range that last one he did before he died? So I'll let you know when I hear those scores and I'll try to listen with new ears and hopefully find the Kamen that others love.
    • CommentAuthorMatt C
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Goldsmith, for the most part, hasn't really clicked with me. He has quite a few works on his resume (Basic Instinct, The Omen, Rudy) that are impressive and classic, but the vast majority of his works haven't really grabbed me by the tail and say "wow!". Same thing with Michael Giacchino (his work on Lost is highly overrated) and Alan Silvestri... they two also have a few great works but most of them are pretty "eh... okay" for the most part.
    http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Band of Brothers is gorgeous and so is Open range. It's not really like the ones you've already listened to dear Filmscoregirl so don't you worry; i am sure that, at least the former, will deeply move you.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007 edited
    Or otherwise go for Event Horizon, if you really want to try something different punk
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007 edited
    Matt C wrote
    Goldsmith, for the most part, hasn't really clicked with me. He has quite a few works on his resume (Basic Instinct, The Omen, Rudy) that are impressive and classic, but the vast majority of his works haven't really grabbed me by the tail and say "wow!". Same thing with Michael Giacchino (his work on Lost is highly overrated) and Alan Silvestri... they two also have a few great works but most of them are pretty "eh... okay" for the most part.


    Can anyone ban this guys? crazy biggrin


    Anyway, the earlier Goldsmith scores never clicked to me either.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Nice one Matt, someone saying it like it is on Lost, the score is GOOD, no more, no less.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Timmer wrote
    Nice one Matt, someone saying it like it is on Lost, the score is GOOD, no more, no less.


    You have to see and Understand Lost Philosofy for appreciate in his full capacity Lost Music.if not..You are lost.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007 edited
    Nautilus wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Nice one Matt, someone saying it like it is on Lost, the score is GOOD, no more, no less.


    You have to see and Understand Lost Philosofy for appreciate in his full capacity Lost Music.if not..You are lost.



    Compared to something like The Soprano's, 'Lost' is complete and utter convoluted drival.

    Unfortunately I have to suffer watching this junk as my girl Mel likes it a lot rolleyes
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Timmer wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Nice one Matt, someone saying it like it is on Lost, the score is GOOD, no more, no less.


    You have to see and Understand Lost Philosofy for appreciate in his full capacity Lost Music.if not..You are lost.



    Compared to something like The Soprano's, 'Lost' is complete and utter convoluted drival.

    Unfortunately I have to suffer watching this junk as my girl Mel likes it a lot rolleyes


    I want to meet Mel. biggrin
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    I like you right where You are!

    .....a thousand miles away cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorpmrsim
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    With few exceptions: Jerry Goldsmith.
    Fair enough, he's got a few scores I really like. Ghost And The Darkness I think is pure brilliance, but most of his work doesn't quite do it for me. I appreciate the complexity of his music, and he sure isn't one for "dumbing down" music. I often love his orchestrations. And usually enjoy his rhythms. But his themes often don't click for me. I don't share his sense/style of melody. However... when he serves a melody I actually like, then everything just falls in place and it's just utterly perfect. Unfortunately, for me that doesn't happen often with JG.
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      CommentAuthorCristian
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007 edited
    Lost is an average score. The emotional stuff is good (I heard better, though) but the action music is too brutal and noisy for me. A highly overrated score, Lost never "clicked" with me.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Timmer on Lost: crazy
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Cristian wrote
    Lost is an average score. The emotional stuff is good (I heard better, though) but the action music is too brutal and noisy for me. A highly overrated score, Lost never "clicked" with me.


    Are you watching the show as well? If you don't, then don't expect to fully appreciate the score, a marvelous and tremendously functioning and elevating original score within the visuals / storyline it accompanies and certainly one of the most impressive TV scores of all time, no matter how some people don't seem to get it. Giacchino's doing for TV and Games what nobody dared to do all these years: actual invention, revival and balls in his music. Entirely.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    I'll definitely agree with that Demetris. I bought the score when everyone was raving about it, and I just didn't care for. It was just too strange for me, but then my brother got me the first season on dvd for my birthday, and after seeing the show I gained an entirely new appreciation for Giacchino's score.
    • CommentAuthorMatt C
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Christodoulides wrote
    Are you watching the show as well? If you don't, then don't expect to fully appreciate the score, a marvelous and tremendously functioning and elevating original score within the visuals / storyline it accompanies and certainly one of the most impressive TV scores of all time, no matter how some people don't seem to get it. Giacchino's doing for TV and Games what nobody dared to do all these years: actual invention, revival and balls in his music. Entirely.


    See here, Demetris, I was a big fan of the first season of Lost. It was incredibly well-done and a very solid premise for its first season. But then the second season just left me disappointed, which opened far too many questions and not answering enough -- I never bothered to check back after the third season, a few episodes here and there but it just lost me. As for Giacchino's scores for the episodes, they accentuated the emotions and actions effectively (even in the first season, I don't remember any motifs or musical bits that stood out), but nothing really stood out for me. I feel that Giacchino does better with theatrical films and video games, where he has more time to work on them. The Lost scores just don't enthrall me like they do with you guys.
    http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Well maybe give them more listens? I can't agree that nothing stands out, his music for LOST is full of simple but direct and to the point melodies and effective emotion-crafting, especially in season 3, the submarine scene and all, are pure genius!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007 edited
    Nautilus wrote
    All the peoplpe who said "Hans Zimmer" will be authomatically Banned when I will be Moderator in a near future biggrin


    The only Zimmer score I moderatly enjoy is At World's End. And I say moderatly as it's still full of all the annoying touches that Zimmer writes in his music.

    And Demetris, do we have any word of a Lost season 3 release?
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007
    Not yet Anthony and it's truly killing me! crazy
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorMatt C
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007
    Jordi, Zimmer is an acquired taste, so don't harp on us when we criticize him. However, his brand of film score sound has become ingrained in pop culture, so he's a hot commodity right now. Among other things.

    Looking at another thread, it brings to my attention another composer who I really don't click with: David Arnold. Now before you guys pull out the ammo, I like some of his scores but he's frequently become repetitive with being constantly pigeonholed in the action/sci-fi genres, but I do like his scores for Casino Royale and Stargate. Still, I downright loathe Independence Day (both film and score) and consider Godzilla to be a highly overrated (and overdone) score. I am very looking forward to his score for The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader, though.
    http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog
  2. Christodoulides wrote
    Cristian wrote
    Lost is an average score. The emotional stuff is good (I heard better, though) but the action music is too brutal and noisy for me. A highly overrated score, Lost never "clicked" with me.


    Are you watching the show as well?


    I must admit, it's a rare score these days that will do very little for me on album, and yet will somehow become the greatest score on Earth when I see the relevant film. Sometimes even good music will get hurt by association with an average film.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007
    Matt C wrote

    Looking at another thread, it brings to my attention another composer who I really don't click with: David Arnold. Now before you guys pull out the ammo, I like some of his scores but he's frequently become repetitive with being constantly pigeonholed in the action/sci-fi genres, but I do like his scores for Casino Royale and Stargate. Still, I downright loathe Independence Day (both film and score) and consider Godzilla to be a highly overrated (and overdone) score. I am very looking forward to his score for The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader, though.


    Why would anyone pull out the ammo? I like his work too. STARGATE / ID4 / GODZILLA totally kick ass and has done quite a few good scores lately as well "Hot Fuzz" was killer action, "Four Brothers" is an exquisitely good score with some beautiful passages and quite inventive in general, same goes for "Amazing Grace". All these apart Casino Royale (mind-blowing action) and the Bond films and there's also the third NARNIA on its way!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorTalos
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Hmm, need to recall, but I stopped listening to some scores, where I have found a derivative theme. That was the case with Greatest Game Ever Played - after noticing the Legends (and Pearl Harbor) rip.


    I really like Brian Tyler's music, but indeed Greates game... is a sad ripoff... however try Darkness Falls, that is a kickass furious score. Occassionally listening to Tokyo Drift is a guilty pleasure too. Look forward hearing AVP2 and John Rambo. I am so glad with composers like Tyler, million times more interesting than that MV shit. Hope that that kind of "filmmusic" will soon be banished.
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      CommentAuthorTalos
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007
    The only Zimmer score I really like is K2. The rest all sound like the Rock. Trying to sound cool... which I totally don't like, fake macho stuff. The reason that I don't like his music is because he just can't compose. Just hitting some tunes on his keyboard and than let a orchestrator work it out. I know many composers work like this, but he just can't write complex music. Same with Vangelis, I really like his work, but listen to the action parts in Alexander, there you can hear that the only can come up with tunes and atmospheric music, but complex action music with many layers and such... no way. They just can't write that.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007
    DARKNESS FALLS
    TERROR TRACT
    FRAILTY
    THE HUNTED
    TOKYO DRIFT / WAR
    and even the twisted dark and dissonance of BUG

    There's so much stuff other than THE GREATEST GAME EVER PLAYED to hear from Tyler that i am really banging my head on the wall to understand why so many people have remained 'stuck' to just that! crazy
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007
    Christodoulides wrote
    Matt C wrote

    Looking at another thread, it brings to my attention another composer who I really don't click with: David Arnold. Now before you guys pull out the ammo, ....


    Why would anyone pull out the ammo?


    Because we have the ammo. biggrin

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    Kazoo
    • CommentAuthorMogens
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007 edited
    Kamen is another composer that never completely clicked with me, but I wouldn't say "never clicked". Like Thomas Newman, I find Kamen's stuff really, really good in the context of the films (e.g. both Lethal Weapon and Die Hard), but often I have a harder time getting into it when I listen to it on CD.

    Usually there are exceptions - i.e. specific cues that I really like - and there are also complete exceptions, like Band of Brothers which I absolutely adore. Generally, though, I'm not the biggest Kamen-fan.
    Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter.
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      CommentAuthorCristian
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    Cristian wrote
    Lost is an average score. The emotional stuff is good (I heard better, though) but the action music is too brutal and noisy for me. A highly overrated score, Lost never "clicked" with me.


    Are you watching the show as well? If you don't, then don't expect to fully appreciate the score, a marvelous and tremendously functioning and elevating original score within the visuals / storyline it accompanies and certainly one of the most impressive TV scores of all time, no matter how some people don't seem to get it. Giacchino's doing for TV and Games what nobody dared to do all these years: actual invention, revival and balls in his music. Entirely.





    Yes, I watch the show. And with the visuals is a little better, but the point is I don't care how original, inventive, inteligent, elevate a score is if it doesn't move me, if I don't connect with the music emotionally . Lost leaves me cold.