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- CommentAuthorBobdH
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012 edited
Anthony wrote
Those are the exact words I used in another post. It feels cheap even when it's tracked in the same movie.
Hmm. That would be re-arranging music to fit in another scene, I don't really have problems with that. And sometimes tracking music from an earlier instalment can work if done right and not drawing attention to itself (The Bourne Ultimatum). The biggest problem for me is when a composer tracks music from an earlier instalment from a different composer, which shows a big contrast in style and recording quality/method. And that's what feels cheap and sloppy. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
Anthony wrote
As in they use music from previous films and simply edit it into the new film.
I wonder why Newman didn't (or perhaps did) do a version of the Bond theme.
there's nothing new about that, they often did it it with the original John Barry arrangement for Dr No, jarringly so, the 'Little Nellie' sequence from YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE and attack on Piz Gloria sequence from ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE both come to mind as heinous examples.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
Yes, and they were all horrible.
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- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeOct 15th 2012
Anthony wrote
As in they use music from previous films and simply edit it into the new film.
I wonder why Newman didn't (or perhaps did) do a version of the Bond theme.
Perhaps the producers didn't like Newman's treatment of the theme in certain context and opted to just reused Arnold's updated version. To be honest, if Newman's version included the actionified passage that I heard in the first released clip (featuring the train), then it deserve to be dropped. -
- CommentAuthorFeliz
- CommentTimeOct 17th 2012
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 17th 2012
Kids singing make me cringe, but good for them. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeOct 17th 2012
AMAZING!
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 17th 2012
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeOct 17th 2012
Amazing?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeOct 18th 2012
Yes. Amazing. Very talented kids!
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeOct 18th 2012 edited
I am sure it's the parent thing I cannot get, yet 
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeOct 18th 2012
How many other 14 and 9 year olds can do this and do it well? Check out the rest of the kids channel. Multi talented kids who are having fun with music! What exactly is wrong with that?
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeOct 27th 2012 edited
Saw the movie yesterday. After reading all the positive reviews and opinions, I was looking forward to it, mostly because it is a Sam Mendes movie, and of course for its score. I'm not really disappointed but it was not so great as I had hoped. All in all, certainly a great action movie but with a lot of focus on the history of a lot of characters. Often with a wink to the older Bonds. There's even time for some poetry in quite a dramatic scene.
Fantastic opening scene with impressive music by Newman. After the so-so song, the movie continues its pace and interesting plot. But after a the first third, the middle does not do the rest of the movie justice. The third act again takes up the interest with a really nice turn of events. Loved it!
Some beautiful scenes:
- the tense set piece during the Jelly fish track. Wow! Visual treat.
- the Skyfall piece near the end of the album introduces us to an oboe! With trademark Newman atmosphere. It's great that he was able to bring in music like this in an action movie.
- the last 20 minutes have some spectacular colours and lighting set
The focus in this movie is not on the hot young women, but on M (Dench).
But why oh why in every movie does the IT guy needs to look nerdy and can do everything by just randomly typing on a keyboard.
But Newman's score is the hero of the film. All in his well-known style, with the great opening track, the nice 'motif for Britain', the Quartermaster track, ... Excellent!Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 28th 2012 edited
For all the naysayers, Newman's score works even better in the movie. It's just as strong as Arnold's previous scores. Unfortunately there's a great version of the Bond theme left off the OST about half way through the movie. Apart from that, and possibly the end credits version of the theme, the soundtrack contains virtually the whole score. Mostly everything else is adapted from cues on the soundtrack. (And luckily, the versions of Arnold's theme from CR have been completely re-recorded and fit in nicely.)
And, as Bregt says above, the movie is excellent. I'd been following production quite closely so there weren't really many surprises for me, but I enjoyed the fact they did things (which I won't mention for spoiler purposes) I didn't think they would have the guts to do.
Bardem's character is creepy and disturbing, and the fact he can make us laugh only makes him scarier. The first scene with him and Bond is fantastic, though I couldn't help by the end of the movie wish we'd seen him more.
Berenice Marlohe had a surprisingly short amount of screentime.
I didn't think the middle dragged at all, and my only real criticism was I didn't enjoy Q's computer-speak-exposition while he was trying to decrypt some files.
The look on Craig's face after the destruction of something very personal to him in the finale was priceless.
Is it the best Bond film ever? No. Is it better than Casino Royale? Mmmm, probably not - but it's a darn fine Bond movie and the best action movie of the year. It makes up for Quantum Of Shoelace and then some!
Seeing it again tomorrow.
Edit: How did I forget to mention the cinematography? It's one of the best looking films I've seen in ages. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 28th 2012 edited
And I think the chronological order of the soundtrack is:
Grand Bazaar, Istanbul
The Bloody Shot
Skyfall (Adele)
Voluntary Retirement
Enjoying Death
New Digs
Day Wasted
Brave New World
Shanghai Drive
Jellyfish
Silhouette
Modigliani
Close Shave (Unused?)
Old Dog, New Tricks (Unused)
Komodo Dragon
Someone Usually Dies
Severine
The Chimera
Quartermaster
Health And Safety
Granborough Road (though the ending comes from an adapted version of the cue used in the casino)
Tennyson
Enquiry
Breadcrumbs
Skyfall
Kill Them First
Welcome to Scotland
She's Mine
The Moors
Deep Water
Mother
Adrenaline (End Credits) -
- CommentAuthorBobdH
- CommentTimeNov 4th 2012 edited
Anthony wrote
Close Shave (Unused?)
No, this one is definitely used, when Eve shaves Bond. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeNov 4th 2012
Yep my mistake, I just didn't notice it. -
- CommentAuthorfrancis
- CommentTimeNov 11th 2012
Saw the movie today and it's a return to form after the forgettable quantum. I enjoyed it a lot, especially Bardem's performance, great villain!
The score by Newman is serviceable as these Craig movies tend to be. I think I'll rank Casino as the best Craig due to the great poker sequences
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- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeDec 16th 2012
Southall wrote
Yes, yes. But I disagree with f_c. I want Irons as Blofeld... and Fiennes as M.
It's interesting to read this comment 13 months later. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeDec 16th 2012
It is, rather!'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeDec 16th 2012
Anthony wrote
And I think the chronological order of the soundtrack is:
Grand Bazaar, Istanbul
The Bloody Shot
Skyfall (Adele)
Voluntary Retirement
Enjoying Death
New Digs
Day Wasted
Brave New World
Shanghai Drive
Jellyfish
Silhouette
Modigliani
Close Shave (Unused?)
Old Dog, New Tricks (Unused)
Komodo Dragon
Someone Usually Dies
Severine
The Chimera
Quartermaster
Health And Safety
Granborough Road (though the ending comes from an adapted version of the cue used in the casino)
Tennyson
Enquiry
Breadcrumbs
Skyfall
Kill Them First
Welcome to Scotland
She's Mine
The Moors
Deep Water
Mother
Adrenaline (End Credits)
"Close Shave" did play in the film, but I thought it was before he arrived at that casino.
What sucks is that bit that plays after [spoiler]Severine is killed and Silva is arrested[/spoiler] is not on the album. It's probably the most explicit performance Newman does of the Bond theme. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 17th 2012
Yes, it was. "Old Dog, New Tricks" is an alternate version, however I put it after "Komodo Dragon" as it sounds like it could be casino source music.