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- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008 edited
Christodoulides wrote
Atli Örvarsson - Vantage Point
Apparently Harry Gregson Williams lovers will go crazy over this; alone.
Not necessary actually.
I like Gregson-Williams, but when I listened "Vantage Point" I was highly disappointed. The score is little more than: "oh, ok". Amazing how one can copy a composer´s style (I´d say "Vantage Point" is also very Powellish, at least it tries) but the result turns out to be a mess.
Exactly the same happened with the shameless "Hitman" score: it was impossible to make it sound more Powellish, but the result was mediocre, boring and uninteresting.
Let´s get serious, so:
NP Une Hirondelle a fait le Printemps (Philippe Rombi)
That´s what I like about Rombi: melodic and majestic, perfectly orchestrated and thematically rich music. Again showing his expertise and his gift writing for orchestra. This score is very close to my favourite Rombi´s works: "Angel" and "Joyeux Noël".Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008 edited
Christodoulides wrote
Atli Örvarsson - Vantage Point
Anywhere I hear clips? I'm intrigued.
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Atli Örvarsson - Vantage Point
Who do you get when you don't have enough money to hire Harry Gregson Williams? Well, Atli's RC latest acquisition and is apparently your man!
Same ol' synth strings Harry Gregson Williams uses, same ol' duduk Harry Gregson Williams uses same ol' synthetic choir Harry Gregson Williams uses, same ol' Heitor Pereira's mexican-flavored acoustic guitar Harry Gregson Williams uses, same ol' swooshing electronics Harry Gregson Williams uses, same pounding percussion Harry Gregson Williams uses, same piano Harry Gregson Williams uses and same ol' slow, string-driven and heavily dramatic Remote Control themes Harry Gregson Williams uses ("Epilogue" or "The President Is Safe" for instance); oh and did i mention the latest trend i.e. JOHN POWELL's Bourne-isms with the trademarked string ostinati a la "Tightening Circle"? And of course let's not forget the rapidly, constantly changing tempi, motif and rhythms a la Remote Control studios and you got your latest score on auto-pilot ready.
Apparently Harry Gregson Williams lovers will go crazy over this; alone.
FUCKING DUDUK! That really did it for me.
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- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
Timmer wrote
Tommy_Boy wrote
Timmer wrote
NP : HOOK - John Williams
Not a great favourite of mine, it's very good but it's just that I rarely reach for this one when I want a Williams fix, still, I'm enjoying it
not a favorite? Its one of the very best he has written
Just a matter of opinion eh Thomas?
I could easily give you twenty ( and more ) Williams scores I think are far better.
please do, considering I don't find several others better, just equally good
20?waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
Tommy_Boy wrote
Timmer wrote
Tommy_Boy wrote
Timmer wrote
NP : HOOK - John Williams
Not a great favourite of mine, it's very good but it's just that I rarely reach for this one when I want a Williams fix, still, I'm enjoying it
not a favorite? Its one of the very best he has written
Just a matter of opinion eh Thomas?
I could easily give you twenty ( and more ) Williams scores I think are far better.
please do, considering I don't find several others better, just equally good
20?
Okay, here's 20 that, IMO, are "better?" Hmmmmm? Let's say, more listenable......all IMO of course
Jaws
Jaws 2
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return Of The Jedi
Empire Of The Sun
Close Encounters Of The 3rd Kind
The Fury
Jane Eyre
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Temple Of Doom
The Last Crusade
Dracula
Monsignor
The Towering Inferno
The Witches Of Eastwick
E.T.
Revenge Of The Sith
The Phantom Menace
A.I.
War Of The Worlds
Nixon
JFK
oooopppppsssss! I've gone over 20On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008 edited
Timmer wrote
NP : HOOK - John Williams
Jaws
Jaws 2
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return Of The Jedi
Empire Of The Sun
Close Encounters Of The 3rd Kind
The Fury
Jane Eyre
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Temple Of Doom
The Last Crusade
Dracula
Monsignor
The Towering Inferno
The Witches Of Eastwick
E.T.
Revenge Of The Sith
The Phantom Menace
A.I.
War Of The Worlds
Nixon
JFK
oooopppppsssss! I've gone over 20
Some good choices, but to say these are more listenable or better I'm not sure off, ah well as long as we remain friends ehwaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008 edited
editOn Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
JuPe wrote
NP: Secret Of The Sahara - Ennio Morricone
I ordered this CD from a Nordic webstore about two weeks ago and it arrived today. Very beautiful stuff. The music flows amazingly well and I especially love the quiet choral tracks. The seventh track, The Golden Door is one of the weirdest tracks I have ever heard. The Amii Stewart song in the end is also excellent and it fits well to the musical style of the album.
It's a fantastic score!
The track THE MOUNTAIN is B I G !On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
I'm wiggin' out man! ^ -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
Is something weird happening to this thread?
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- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
This is still a fairly nearly perfect forum.Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
franz_conrad wrote
However I do think some people underrate RAIDERS. There aren't a lot of scores with classics like 'The Map Room', 'The Basket Chase', 'Desert Chase', 'Marion's Theme', 'The Raiders March' and 'Miracle of the Ark' on the same CD.
I can't say that I agree with most of the things you postsay but with the above I'm with ya all the way!
-Erik-
'Most'? Come on... It's only in a minority of posts that I attack Silvestri, complain about action/adventure scores that are too loud/long/both, propose to Desplat, and praise the life out of music you find boring.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
Bregt wrote
This is still a fairly nearly perfect forum.
Praise da Lard!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008 edited
NP: The Affair Of The Necklace - David Newman
A truly captivating score - lush and elegant - and one of my favourites by D. Newman.
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 5th 2008
Tommy_Boy wrote
Timmer wrote
NP : HOOK - John Williams
Jaws
Jaws 2
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return Of The Jedi
Empire Of The Sun
Close Encounters Of The 3rd Kind
The Fury
Jane Eyre
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Temple Of Doom
The Last Crusade
Dracula
Monsignor
The Towering Inferno
The Witches Of Eastwick
E.T.
Revenge Of The Sith
The Phantom Menace
A.I.
War Of The Worlds
Nixon
JFK
oooopppppsssss! I've gone over 20
Some good choices, but to say these are more listenable or better I'm not sure off, ah well as long as we remain friends eh
Some "good choices?"
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- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
NP: There Will Be Blood - Jonny Greenwood
So far (and I'm only on track 3) there's not much to hum to, but the music itself is quite interesting to listen to. It's a small ensemble to this point playing some interesting textural stuff as well as some interesting orchestrations.
Not a toe-tapper but worth a listen.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
Good lord! Are you telling me that "The Map Room: Dawn" does absolutely NOTHING for you? That sequence and everything up until the Airplane Fight is musical storytelling at its absolute finest. And the discovery of the Ark itself is breathtaking. The Ark theme interpolated with the Medallion theme is delicious as Sallah and Indy lift the Ark up to give the audience its first glimpse of the it! A brilliantly paced part of the film and score. The whole damn score is perfection.
You CANNOT compare Raiders to The Golden Compass. Raiders reaches heights that only Compass wishes it could achieve. Don't even go there!
-Erik-
Sorry Erik, I'll reiterate this again. Raiders' score does nothing for me, the movie itself is highly entertaining and the score supports it fine. It's fine if the remaining 99% of the film score community loves it to death, but I don't. Just give it a rest.
And I wasn't comparing the quality of the Raiders score to TGC's. I was comparing the mostly positive reception of TGC's score to your lukewarm response to it.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog -
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Demetris, on Vantage Point....I actually agree with your assesment of Vantage Point. HGW used to be one of, if not my very favorite composer, but the last few years from him have been utterly dissapointing, so I'm not excited to hear Atli do basically the exact same thing. RC scores seem to have declined in quality in the present decade...at least the ones from the 90s were FUN.
The only thing I can say in Atli's defense is that I'm impressed he managed to work in any emotional upliftingness at all (i.e. "Epilogue") given the terrible things I've heard about the film.I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
NP : THE PIANO - Michael Nyman
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- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Rambo - Brian Tyler
Great score. But I am getting kinda weary of hearing the Bourne ostinato EVERYWHERE.I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Scribe wrote
Rambo - Brian Tyler
Great score. But I am getting kinda weary of hearing the Bourne ostinato EVERYWHERE.
Yep!
I hate the watering down of great tracks, it's already happened big time to Zimmer's 'Journey To The Line' from The Thin Red Line making a strong and emotionally powerful track weaker and weaker until it has no gravitas anymore.
Same with Barber's Adagio which I can no longer listen to.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
NP: Les Aventures De Tintin - Ray Parker, Jim Morgan and Tom Szczesniak
Quote: "It is generally regarded as an excellent score, fitting with the series well and providing enjoyable listening in its own right."
Amen to that!! -
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Matt C wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Good lord! Are you telling me that "The Map Room: Dawn" does absolutely NOTHING for you? That sequence and everything up until the Airplane Fight is musical storytelling at its absolute finest. And the discovery of the Ark itself is breathtaking. The Ark theme interpolated with the Medallion theme is delicious as Sallah and Indy lift the Ark up to give the audience its first glimpse of the it! A brilliantly paced part of the film and score. The whole damn score is perfection.
You CANNOT compare Raiders to The Golden Compass. Raiders reaches heights that only Compass wishes it could achieve. Don't even go there!
-Erik-
Sorry Erik, I'll reiterate this again. Raiders' score does nothing for me, the movie itself is highly entertaining and the score supports it fine. It's fine if the remaining 99% of the film score community loves it to death, but I don't. Just give it a rest.
I will NOT give it a rest. You singled me out in your initial post so I have every right to respond. You don't like the score and gave your reasons why and I countered with why I like the score and all my reasons why. What the problem, Matt?
Matt C wrote
And I wasn't comparing the quality of the Raiders score to TGC's. I was comparing the mostly positive reception of TGC's score to your lukewarm response to it.
Well, I'd say that there is a 50-50 split in the film music community cocerning The Golden Compass. Some like it some don't. However, with Raiders... like you said... about 99% of us LOVE IT while the others don't. Therefore bring up Golden Compass doesn't make any sense as a comparision.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Golden Compass = Average
Raiders = Bloody rules
My opinion.
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- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
BRIAN TYLER - Rambo
Some cues are plain Fire the bloody sound editor i say.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
no. Fire bloody Tyler, I say. He admitted to liking longer albums himself. The underscore works decently, you aren't disturbed in anyway by Crossing into Burma or Searching for the Missionaries.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
I'm not bothered about longer albums. The more music the better. Anything you don't want to listen to then just skip. -
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Anthony wrote
I'm not bothered about longer albums. The more music the better. Anything you don't want to listen to then just skip.
But that's not what I want to do. Like Martijn, I prefer an album that gives the best presentation of the score in terms of a listening experience rather than as much music as can be put on a CD.
In most cases I do prefer a longer album, and some scores truly deserve a full release, but when it comes to Tyler... not so much. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Steven wrote
Anthony wrote
I'm not bothered about longer albums. The more music the better. Anything you don't want to listen to then just skip.
But that's not what I want to do. Like Martijn, I prefer an album that gives the best presentation of the score in terms of a listening experience rather than as much music as can be put on a CD.
In most cases I do prefer a longer album, and some scores truly deserve a full release, but when it comes to Tyler... not so much.
I prefer a good presentation too but I'm real glad albums are as filled out as possible which enables me to be able to decide what I Do and Don't want to hear.
Back in the days of Vinyl you didn't get much 'change' from a 35 minute listen resulting in many scores missing some of the films best scoring.
But on the other hand, let's be honest, scores were FARRRRRRRRR better than they are now!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
Can't please anyone around here.
Shorter albums are better listens but most of the time don't include those cues that we want.
Longer albums have everything we want but don't play well.
Some old shit over and over and over and over again.
Anyway, read Timmer's post above.... well said!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!