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  1. Steven wrote

    Really? Hmm, I assumed that was pretty common knowledge. Keep in mind the original theme, the bit you're familiar with, was Bernard Herrmann's doing for the original series.

    Jerry Goldsmith's theme for the movie is fantastic, a classic Goldsmith melody.


    Well, you see, I have only been exposed to the Twilight Zone maybe only once or twice, when I was very young. So, I never really associate the music with the movie/series. But yeah, the album is fantastic.

    Anyway, I'll just jump to the present with NP: Hancock.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    Steven wrote
    The Grey Pilgrim wrote
    NP: Twilight Zone: The Movie - Jerry Goldsmith

    So, this is where THAT theme comes from! I heard it from all over the place, but never knew that it was from Twilight Zone. Very nice listen BTW.


    Really? Hmm, I assumed that was pretty common knowledge. Keep in mind the original theme, the bit you're familiar with, was Bernard Herrmann's doing for the original series.

    Jerry Goldsmith's theme for the movie is fantastic, a classic Goldsmith melody.


    Herrmann's titles were only used for a short time. THAT theme was composed by Marius Constant.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  2. Conduct?
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Conduct?


    What are you refering to Pawel?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  3. Oh sorry, I didn't know that my post would go up so late. I'm referring to Tom's post about conducting She.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    The Grey Pilgrim wrote
    NP: Twilight Zone: The Movie - Jerry Goldsmith

    So, this is where THAT theme comes from! I heard it from all over the place, but never knew that it was from Twilight Zone. Very nice listen BTW.


    Really? Hmm, I assumed that was pretty common knowledge. Keep in mind the original theme, the bit you're familiar with, was Bernard Herrmann's doing for the original series.

    Jerry Goldsmith's theme for the movie is fantastic, a classic Goldsmith melody.


    Herrmann's titles were only used for a short time. THAT theme was composed by Marius Constant.


    Shows what I know! shame
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008 edited
    Recently Played: Predator 2 - Alan Silvestri and The Red Violin - John Corigliano

    Predator 2 gave me my Predator kicks for years until Varese released the almighty Predator Deluxe Edition. Predator 2 was one of my very first soundtrack CD's and when I found it at Tower Records in Toronto I was as pleased as punch. I couldn't WAIT to get home to give it a spin. Silvestri perfectly supplied the urban jungle setting of L.A. with literal jungle sounds which included an army of percussion, synthetic effects and blaring brass passages. Familiar themes and motifs from the first film work there way in this score... at times note for note. Highlights are the massive action cues "Tunnel Chase" and the finale cue before the brilliant end credits "This Is History" which is oddly the 8th track on a 13 track CD. I would personally like to know the chronological order of these cues. Speaking of the End Titles... whether it's pasted together or not, it's easily goes down and one of the all time best end credit cue. The sound quality is stellar (Dennis Sands rarely misses) and The Skywalker Symphony performed the shit of the score. It is a wonderful album to turn up loud and piss off the neighbors.

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    On the way home from Toronto the brilliant sounds of John Corigliano and flawless violin performance of Joshua Bell kept me company. I simply LOVE The Red Violin. What I find so fascinating is that the concert piece "Chaconne for Orchestra and Violin" was written before the film score was written. So, basically, Corigliano had already written his film score before the picture was finished and all he had to do was adapt it to the images. Most of the major themes and motifs are in the concert work however the Chaconne is a much larger set piece which incorporates the entire symphony orchestra (powerful stuff) while the film score itself is much smaller and intimate work. The Chaconne is easily one of the great stand alone pieces of music these ears have ever heard. And then to hear those themes developed and dissected into the film score is a brilliant feat in itself. The recording is sublime!

    If you aren’t familiar with the score then you might want to start with the Chaconne first so that you are familiar with the themes and then can go through the score to hear how they are utilizes. Or do you play from start to finish and then hear the Chaconne last which works almost as a 17 minute long End Credit piece. Which ever way that you do listen to it, it will be a rewarding one. It all plays more like a concert work rather than a film score anyway.

    The films main theme is stated a lot throughout the score but it goes through main variations all brilliant performed by Joshua Bell which keeps the theme from being stagnant. One of my favorites version is the when Corigliano turns the theme into a hypnotic tune to help seduce the character Morritz. Corigliano gives the violin a voice and a soul. It’s brilliant stuff.

    Different cultures and sounds are featured in the score as well. The Gypsy music is about a light as the score gets and his a most welcomed piece to take the score out of it’s dark mood which is the dominate texture during it’s playing time.

    Also check out the track “Etudes” which is basically a Joshua Bell show off piece. The tracks starts off with what I assume is a metronome clicking at a very slow pace. Bell begins his performance playing a very difficult passage as a leisurely pace. The metronome soon picks up the pace and so does Bell until we are as a breakneck speed and you wonder if Bell’s violin strings are on fire. Bell doesn’t miss a beat or a note. Absolutely breathtaking!

    Esa-Pekka Solonan conducts the LA Philharmonic in one of those rare scores in the past 10 years or so that truly deserved the Academy Award.

    As for John Corigliano... having played all three of his film scores recently I really hope that we get to hear more from him in the film world. He is a gifted composer and has written three stunning scores in his career. Hopefully, one of these days, Revolution will be released commercially for you all to hear. And if you don’t have Altered States and The Red Violin in your collections I highly recommend you do. You will not be disappointed.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008 edited
    NP: Various Scores Recorded by Varujan Kojian and the Utah Symphony Orchestra

    The Adventures of Robin Hood - Erich Wolfgang Korngold
    The Sea Hawk - Erich WolfGang Korngold
    The Star Wars Trilogy - John Williams

    Just picked out a few highlights from each album and put them in an iTunes playlist. Wow! Imagine having these three scores all on one concert program? I simply love the Kojian/Utah Symphony recordings. Sure, the Robin Hood and Sea Hawk recordings are far from complete but they do contain all of the necessary highlights from each score all packaged up in nice 45 minute albums. Oh Giggady Goo... The Sea Hawk is soooooooooooooo good. love LOVE LOVE THIS SCORE!

    As for the Star Wars recording... I think it's easily the best re-recording Star Wars Trilogy album there is. Not even John Williams got it right on his Star Wars album with the Skywalker Symphony Orchestra. And the addition of "Fight With TIE Fighters" and "Darth Vader's Death" are a nice bonus and have never been re-recorded elsewhere.

    -Erik-
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    Too many bloody Star Wars re-recordings out there, it's bewildering for first time buyers. And there are so many versions of the OSTs as well! It's ridiculous.

    Bicentennial Man James Horner

    Okay, so perhaps one of his most 'copy-paste' heavy scores, and it's certainly nothing new. But it is one of Horner's most pleasant albums! 'The Wedding' (what an original name) is over-sentimental... and it's just awesome, it really does stop me in my tracks that one. I'd love to have this played at my wedding!
    Um.
    I mean to say power tools. Womens volleyball. Rugby. Beer.
    Manly things.

    <_<
    >_>
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    Steven wrote
    Too many bloody Star Wars re-recordings out there, it's bewildering for first time buyers. And there are so many versions of the OSTs as well! It's ridiculous.


    Which is why I do my best around here to point people in the right direction and get only the best of the best.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    And I'm glad you do! But then not every first time buyer has an Erik at their disposal. I dunno why I'm complaining really, there is an infinitely more bewildering choice of recordings out there for classical music, so why not for film music? I guess I'm not used to associating that same kind of market demand (for want of a better phrase) with film music and then of course with film music we're blessed with the original recordings anyway.
  4. Erik Woods wrote
    Recently Played: Predator 2 - Alan Silvestri and The Red Violin - John Corigliano

    Predator 2 gave me my Predator kicks for years until Varese released the almighty Predator Deluxe Edition. Predator 2 was one of my very first soundtrack CD's and when I found it at Tower Records in Toronto I was as pleased as punch. I couldn't WAIT to get home to give it a spin. Silvestri perfectly supplied the urban jungle setting of L.A. with literal jungle sounds which included an army of percussion, synthetic effects and blaring brass passages. Familiar themes and motifs from the first film work there way in this score... at times note for note. Highlights are the massive action cues "Tunnel Chase" and the finale cue before the brilliant end credits "This Is History" which is oddly the 8th track on a 13 track CD. I would personally like to know the chronological order of these cues. Speaking of the End Titles... whether it's pasted together or not, it's easily goes down and one of the all time best end credit cue. The sound quality is stellar (Dennis Sands rarely misses) and The Skywalker Symphony performed the shit of the score. It is a wonderful album to turn up loud and piss off the neighbors.



    Same here bought Predator 2 way before there was even a bootleg available of the first... May have been one of the first in my brother's catalogue, I agree the sound quality is fantastic, you hear every instrument and every sound effect crystal clear. Truly Dead is one of the highlights. Has been put in the shadow of the first score for a few years now, but it's still a great listen if you like classic Silvestri action writing. And I do just that!!!
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
  5. Erik Woods wrote
    Predator 2...I would personally like to know the chronological order of these cues...

    I have the following order for this score - I might have put this together but it was some time ago and I'm not sure how accurate it is (I don't think that there are any edited tracks)

    01 - 07 - 02 - 09 - 05 - 04 - 06 - 03 - 08 - 10 - 11

    On the subject of this score, I've always wondered whether track 4, "Truly Dead", was a typo error. If I remember from the film, there's a quote "Truly dread" that is featured during this cue. Anyone else ever wondered about this?
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  6. Maybe it's an in-joke from Silvestri?
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    NP: Free Willy 3 - Cliff Eidelman

    A sweet, innocent, short little score by Eidelman. Again, Eidelman proves his gift for melody with a fantastic little sweeping main theme. Poledouris' original theme from the first two Willy films makes a cameo. The Toronto Symphony isn't challenge with their performance but it's nice to see a local orchestra performing a film score. There is one big action cue however but it's pretty standard stuff. And of course Eidelman offers listeners a proper end title cue which sums up all of his major thematic material perfectly. Overall, Free Willy 3 is pretty easy listen and lovely one at that with a hint of adventure.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008 edited
    NP : "BOOM!" - John Barry



    Possibly Barry's "strangest" score, full of exotic sounds and interesting orchestration but as always with Barry it's wrapped up in great melody. Still, it's a very dark score full of atmosphere that at times ethereal and other-worldly.

    Oh yeah, and I LOVE IT!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    NP King of the Wind (John Scott)

    Besides Scott´s usual expertise with themes and orchestrations, this is such an elegant score. I can´t have enough of his music !
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
  7. Erik Woods wrote
    Recently Played: The Red Violin - John Corigliano

    As for John Corigliano... having played all three of his film scores recently I really hope that we get to hear more from him in the film world. He is a gifted composer and has written three stunning scores in his career. Hopefully, one of these days, Revolution will be released commercially for you all to hear. And if you don’t have Altered States and The Red Violin in your collections I highly recommend you do. You will not be disappointed.

    -Erik-


    RED VIOLIN is one of the truly landmark scores of modern times. So much of the film wouldn't have worked with anything less than what Corigliano gave it. Compared to most film composers - and I include pretty much all of my favourites here save 1 or 2 - he's a genius of composition too (as opposed to being very good or great), and hearing that genius touch in a film score is an added bonus.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    Genius of composition? Bloody hell. Seems I should give this one a listen then!? I've never seen the film, heard the score or heard anything by John Corigliano.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    Erik Woods wrote
    It all plays more like a concert work rather than a film score anyway. [plus a lot about how awesome music can be]


    Honestly, with your taste in film scores there's a whole world out there of non-film music concert music awaiting your attention! (Trying my hardest there not to say 'classical'. biggrin ) I think you'd like a lot of the stuff from the Romantic era and early 20th century, it's not all Mozart! (And I'm sure you're familiar with a few pieces already.)

    Perhaps this calls for a "Classical Music for the Film Music Fan" thread?
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    Steven wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    It all plays more like a concert work rather than a film score anyway. [plus a lot about how awesome music can be]


    Honestly, with your taste in film scores there's a whole world out there of non-film music concert music awaiting your attention! (Trying my hardest there not to say 'classical'. biggrin ) I think you'd like a lot of the stuff from the Romantic era and early 20th century, it's not all Mozart! (And I'm sure you're familiar with a few pieces already.)

    Perhaps this calls for a "Classical Music for the Film Music Fan" thread?


    I'll post my classical collection in that said thread if ever created and you can let me know what you think of it and make recommendations.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
    Righto. I'm guessing Timmer will be the best guy for recommendations!
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2008
    NP: The Horse Whisperer - Thomas Newman

    I seem hooked on this at the moment. Always hits the spot at this time of night.

    cool
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2008
    Steven wrote
    Righto. I'm guessing Timmer will be the best guy for recommendations!


    Of course! wink

    Seiously though, there are a few people here who can give great recommendations including yourself. I'll add my tuppence worth slowly to your new thread, I see no point whatsoever in giving descriptionless lists.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2008
    Steven wrote
    Genius of composition? Bloody hell. Seems I should give this one a listen then!? I've never seen the film, heard the score or heard anything by John Corigliano.


    The Red Violin is a pretty good film with some powerful moments and certainly worth your time watching and the score is intrinsic to the film....I'll say no more.

    As for the score it's very good, "genius" ut uh, not in my book!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  8. Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    Genius of composition? Bloody hell. Seems I should give this one a listen then!? I've never seen the film, heard the score or heard anything by John Corigliano.


    The Red Violin is a pretty good film with some powerful moments and certainly worth your time watching and the score is intrinsic to the film....I'll say no more.

    As for the score it's very good, "genius" ut uh, not in my book!


    I said it was written by a genius of composition, which is rare for a film score, not that the score itself was a work of compositional ingenuity. ('Immense dramatic flair' would be a better description of the score's value).
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2008 edited
    franz_conrad wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    Genius of composition? Bloody hell. Seems I should give this one a listen then!? I've never seen the film, heard the score or heard anything by John Corigliano.


    The Red Violin is a pretty good film with some powerful moments and certainly worth your time watching and the score is intrinsic to the film....I'll say no more.

    As for the score it's very good, "genius" ut uh, not in my book!


    I said it was written by a genius of composition, which is rare for a film score, not that the score itself was a work of compositional ingenuity. ('Immense dramatic flair' would be a better description of the score's value).


    I stand corrected old bean beer

    His compositional "chops" are indeed immense.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorDavid OC
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2008
    The Adventures of Huck Finn - Bill Conti

    Film music doesn't get any better than this. Rich and melodic, inventive and complex, with every single cue a gem with something new to offer. And it's only a touch over 30 minutes long. Just a brilliant score.
    • CommentAuthorDavid OC
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2008
    Night - Cezary Skubiszewski

    After listening to his dazzling Death Defying Acts a lot in the last few days, I've returned to his equally wonderful score to the Australian documentary feature; it's a brilliant melding of orchestral and non-orchestral styles, well worth tracking down.
  9. Forever Young - Jerry Goldsmith

    So simple yet so good.
    I'm your Piper at the gates of dawn.