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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009 edited
    Wakeman was the man behind Cast Your Fate To The Wind and Classical Gas???? spin

    Classical Gas, if we're talking about the same tune HERE then it's Mason Williams with Mike Post doing the orchestral arrangements, nothing to do with Wakeman at all unless you know something I don't!? I've loved this track since I was a kid, I'm sure I would have known something by now if Wakeman had had anything to do with it?

    I seriously doubt he was the man behind Cast Your Fate To The Wind either which was originally done by an American artist who's name escapes me but became a popular UK hit for Sounds Orchestral.

    I'm intrigued as to where this information came from?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009
    Was listening to Wakeman's 1971 Piano Vibrations and these were on there, so I just assumed they were his.

    Could just as easily have been covers though, I guess.
    I didn't actually resarch any of it. shame
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009
    Yet sounds very much the same. wink


    Sure, if Wagner and Bob Dylan are one and the same.

    Syd's music is for the most part "lieder", very acoustic, almost folk-like, but with a very minimalistic structure. Waters is far more on the instrumental side, with experimental sounds and riffs, stronger melodies, more "rock opera". So is Gilmour, even though he leans more towards blues.

    I don't think there's anything naive (deceptively or otherwise) about the album: it's WAY too convoluted and artificial for that.


    Naïve in the sense that he sings about his bicycles and stuff, almost like a children's song, yet there's always more to it than that. Either conscious commentary or acidtrip meanderings. Same with melodies and meter...it's "almost" typical, yet the meter is suddenly off or into something else or the melodic line takes a completely different direction than what you expected.

    By the way, I recommend this documentary for those who haven't seen it.

    It's a style that's definitely not for me, at any rate.


    I've understood as much, and that's perfectly fine! smile
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009
    Thor wrote
    Yet sounds very much the same. wink


    Sure, if Wagner and Bob Dylan are one and the same.


    biggrin

    I don't think there's anything naive (deceptively or otherwise) about the album: it's WAY too convoluted and artificial for that.


    Naïve in the sense that he sings about his bicycles and stuff, almost like a children's song, yet there's always more to it than that.


    Ahhh, I see what you mean.
    Fair enough.

    By the way, I recommend this documentary for those who haven't seen it.


    Cheers!
    I'll have a lookout for that.
    Interestingly I find that with musical styles that almost but not quite match my own taste, some background information may well prove the difference between going for it or not.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009 edited
    Martijn wrote
    Was listening to Wakeman's 1971 Piano Vibrations and these were on there, so I just assumed they were his.

    Could just as easily have been covers though, I guess.
    I didn't actually resarch any of it. shame


    Damn! I was hoping you'd blow me away with some revelation I'd never heard of....oh well rolleyes

    Having googled both tracks I see I was spot on about Classical Gas which I was 99% sure I was correct on anyway.

    Cast Your Fate To The Wind ( and what a lovely melody it is ) was originally by Vince Gauraldi and won Best Original Jazz Composition way back in 1963 but has been recorded by numerous artists over the years and, as I said, became a popular hit for Sounds Orchestral ( I thank the pop quiz I occassionaly enter for knowing such useless information wink ).

    Here's a Rick Wakeman fact for you though, He played Melotron on David Bowie's hit Space Oddity ( yet again useless pop quiz info biggrin )

    Talking of the pop quiz, I'll be asking for some help off people who regularly post here very soon.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009 edited
    smile

    Who knows what film music is today.
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009
    NP: Are You Experienced? - The Jimi Hendrix Experience

    Superb.

    Obviously.

    punk
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009
    NP: STRING QUARTETS VOL. 13....LOUIS SPOHR
    Relaxing
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009
    LSH wrote
    NP: Are You Experienced? - The Jimi Hendrix Experience

    Superb.

    Obviously.

    punk


    An experience! Brilliant, BRILLIANT album cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Martijn wrote
    Was listening to Wakeman's 1971 Piano Vibrations and these were on there, so I just assumed they were his.

    Could just as easily have been covers though, I guess.
    I didn't actually resarch any of it. shame


    Damn! I was hoping you'd blow me away with some revelation I'd never heard of....oh well rolleyes

    Having googled both tracks I see I was spot on about Classical Gas which I was 99% sure I was correct on anyway.

    Cast Your Fate To The Wind ( and what a lovely melody it is ) was originally by Vince Gauraldi and won Best Original Jazz Composition way back in 1963 but has been recorded by numerous artists over the years and, as I said, became a popular hit for Sounds Orchestral ( I thank the pop quiz I occassionaly enter for knowing such useless information wink ).

    Here's a Rick Wakeman fact for you though, He played Melotron on David Bowie's hit Space Oddity ( yet again useless pop quiz info biggrin )

    Talking of the pop quiz, I'll be asking for some help off people who regularly post here very soon.



    NP : My own compilation


    All instrumentals and includes Williams Classical Gas amonst others. cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009 edited
    sdtom wrote
    smile

    Who knows what film music is today.
    Thomas


    At least I know what evil lurks in the hearts of men! cool

    Timmer wrote
    Martijn wrote
    Was listening to Wakeman's 1971 Piano Vibrations and these were on there, so I just assumed they were his.

    Could just as easily have been covers though, I guess.
    I didn't actually resarch any of it. shame


    Damn! I was hoping you'd blow me away with some revelation I'd never heard of....oh well rolleyes

    Sorry. shame I had just been listening to three CDs of original recordings, so I was just going with the flow.
    Now that you mentioned it, I actually knew at least Classical Gas was by Manson. dizzy


    Cast Your Fate To The Wind [...] has been recorded by numerous artists over the years and, as I said, became a popular hit for Sounds Orchestral ( I thank the pop quiz I occassionaly enter for knowing such useless information wink ).

    Yeah, I knew that much.
    It's pretty much its most famous version, though interestingly there's a couple of versions with lyrics around as well! Vince Gueraldi...I only knew that name from his "Charlie Brown" picture scores in the ...what? Sixties? Seventies?

    The most distinguishing characteristic of these cartoons I always found the very specific voice recoding design. The voices always sounded... I'm struggling for the righ word. Thick? Like they were draped in velcet? An abundance of deep lows? Like they were really, really closedly miked anyway.
    I remember little of the scores, though I think they were generally inoffensive light jzzy cues.

    Here's a Rick Wakeman fact for you though, He played Melotron on David Bowie's hit Space Oddity ( yet again useless pop quiz info biggrin )

    Mellotron?
    Is that the less apocalyptic brother of Marvin's Illidium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator?

    Talking of the pop quiz, I'll be asking for some help off people who regularly post here very soon.

    Let me guess.
    Their names start with 'T' and rhyme with 'Cor'? wink
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    If you'd asked me a few minutes ago where else the Mellotron had been used I'd have immediately said The Moody Blues Nights In White Satin and The Beatles Strawberry Fields Forever. Looking it up on Wikipedia I was stunned to see just how extensively it's been used from The Moody Blues to Elton John to Jean-Michel Jarre to Radiohead......and a whole feckload more shocked

    The MELLOTRON


    cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009 edited
    p.s. Classical Gas was by Manson?

    Marilyn or Charles? wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    FFS.

    MASON!

    I need a drink.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    Martijn wrote
    FFS.

    MASON!

    I need a drink.


    Time to open the Port? I'll have a glass with you, hair of the dog an all that... beer
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    NP: SYMPHONY NO. 7 IN A MAJOR, OP. 92....Beethoven. This was used in "Mr Holland's Opus" by Michael Kamen. As I recall they played the second movement. I have the archival Toscanni set with the NBC Symphony.
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    sdtom wrote
    NP: SYMPHONY NO. 7 IN A MAJOR, OP. 92....Beethoven. This was used in "Mr Holland's Opus" by Michael Kamen. As I recall they played the second movement. I have the archival Toscanni set with the NBC Symphony.
    Thomas


    Along with the 9th this is my favourite Beethoven symphony. The 2nd movement of the 7th was also used to very good effect in Johh Boorman's ZARDOZ in an ageing sequence at the end of the film.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    Zardoz is a film I've never seen.
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    sdtom wrote
    Zardoz is a film I've never seen.


    You really don't need to either Tom wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    Yikes Timmer its that bad eh?
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
    NP: SYMPHONY NO. 6 IN A MINORGUSTAV MAHLER
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
    sdtom wrote
    Yikes Timmer its that bad eh?


    It's a curio Tom and has a bit of a cult following. Personally I have no intention of seeing it again after one viewing.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
    NP : PEER GYNT - Edvard Grieg



    A perfect Sunday morning listen.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
    NP : 100% ACID JAZZ - Various



    One of Mel's compilation CD's with tracks by the likes of Jamiroquai, Incognito, Freak Power, Brand New Heavies, US3 etc, the majority of it is excellent, a real Sunday afternoon funky feel good listen cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
    NP: Music Of The Spheres - Mike Oldfield

    Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic.

    Music sounds good tonight - I think I'm going to be sitting here for a very long time...

    cool
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
    LSH wrote
    NP: Music Of The Spheres - Mike Oldfield

    Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic.

    Music sounds good tonight - I think I'm going to be sitting here for a very long time...

    cool


    Good GOOD play beer

    What are your surroundings like right now?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009 edited
    Timmer wrote
    LSH wrote
    NP: Music Of The Spheres - Mike Oldfield

    Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic.

    Music sounds good tonight - I think I'm going to be sitting here for a very long time...

    cool


    Good GOOD play beer

    What are your surroundings like right now?


    I'm in my cousin's entertainment room (because she's out tonight cheesy ), stretched out on her huge sofa with a glass of wine. The lights are dimmed and when the music gets quiet enough you can just about hear the waves crashing on the beach nearby.

    Bliss. cool
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
    LSH wrote
    Timmer wrote
    LSH wrote
    NP: Music Of The Spheres - Mike Oldfield

    Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic.

    Music sounds good tonight - I think I'm going to be sitting here for a very long time...

    cool


    Good GOOD play beer

    What are your surroundings like right now?


    I'm in my cousin's entertainment room (because she's out tonight cheesy ), stretched out on her huge sofa with a glass of wine. The lights are dimmed and when the music gets quiet enough you can just about hear the waves crashing on the beach nearby.

    Bliss. cool


    shame <-envy Sounds incredibly romantic in that solitary like romantic way....I hope I'm making sense!?

    Actually it's nice here, blue skies and sunshine but no crashing waves.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009 edited
    Timmer wrote
    LSH wrote
    Timmer wrote
    LSH wrote
    NP: Music Of The Spheres - Mike Oldfield

    Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic.

    Music sounds good tonight - I think I'm going to be sitting here for a very long time...

    cool


    Good GOOD play beer

    What are your surroundings like right now?


    I'm in my cousin's entertainment room (because she's out tonight cheesy ), stretched out on her huge sofa with a glass of wine. The lights are dimmed and when the music gets quiet enough you can just about hear the waves crashing on the beach nearby.

    Bliss. cool


    shame <-envy Sounds incredibly romantic in that solitary like romantic way....I hope I'm making sense!?

    Actually it's nice here, blue skies and sunshine but no crashing waves.


    I may as well make the most of it. Later this week I'm flying to Melbourne to see my cousin (who's my age) and we're going to spend the last month or so of my time in Australia travelling round the coast - should be fun. Then I'm coming home (England), which I'm both disappointed about and immensely looking forward to at the same time.

    spin
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
    LSH wrote
    Timmer wrote
    LSH wrote
    Timmer wrote
    LSH wrote
    NP: Music Of The Spheres - Mike Oldfield

    Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic.

    Music sounds good tonight - I think I'm going to be sitting here for a very long time...

    cool


    Good GOOD play beer

    What are your surroundings like right now?


    I'm in my cousin's entertainment room (because she's out tonight cheesy ), stretched out on her huge sofa with a glass of wine. The lights are dimmed and when the music gets quiet enough you can just about hear the waves crashing on the beach nearby.

    Bliss. cool


    shame <-envy Sounds incredibly romantic in that solitary like romantic way....I hope I'm making sense!?

    Actually it's nice here, blue skies and sunshine but no crashing waves.


    I may as well make the most of it. Later this week I'm flying to Melbourne to see my cousin (who's my age) and we're going to spend the last month or so of my time in Australia travelling round the coast - should be fun. Then I'm coming home (England), which I'm both disappointed about and immensely looking forward to at the same time.

    spin


    I understand that very well. Make the most of the remaining time because in no time at all this experience of a lfetime will be a distant nostalgic dream.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt