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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Same goes for the spanish version of this kind of living beings.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    How do you call 'em?

    Cyprus: "horkatoi / mallouroi" biggrin
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009 edited
    Steven wrote
    Fine, I'm sure there are some good "chavs" out there... goes without saying. But the term itself is one that carries a lot of negativity with it, so I don't think it's narrow minded to dislike chavs at all. If someone acts like a chav, I instantly dislike them. Simple.


    Okay, we'll leave it at that ( it certainly isn't worth expelling grey matter on )

    You do realise I was partly playing devil's advocate here? I love you Steven....but not in the biblical sense like D does biggrin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    How do you call 'em?

    Cyprus: "horkatoi / mallouroi" biggrin

    We call them "quillos" / "quillacos" / "cholo"
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    biggrin
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Marselus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    How do you call 'em?

    Cyprus: "horkatoi / mallouroi" biggrin

    We call them "quillos" / "quillacos" / "cholo"


    'Cholo' I like that biggrin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    How do you call 'em?

    Cyprus: "horkatoi / mallouroi" biggrin

    We call them "quillos" / "quillacos" / "cholo"


    'Cholo' I like that biggrin

    Here, a sample
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Marselus wrote
    Here, a sample


    Right, to hell with that...I'm getting my shotgun.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Steven wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Here, a sample


    Right, to hell with that...I'm getting my shotgun.

    That´s what the guy was about to do when opening the trunk at the end of the video. Really disgusting people.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Marselus wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    How do you call 'em?

    Cyprus: "horkatoi / mallouroi" biggrin

    We call them "quillos" / "quillacos" / "cholo"


    'Cholo' I like that biggrin

    Here, a sample


    Seems very familiar freezing
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Yeah, I try to keep this kind of scumbags as far as I can.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    What happens in that video? Can't really tell.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009 edited
    It is a drug / alcohol control at around 8AM, when people leave the discos and head home or to some after hours of the area. These guys are talking basically about the drugs they´ve consumed (you know, the "more drugs I use, more man I am" kinda speech) or the drugs they carry on in that precise moment, and laughing at the police practically on their faces. Obviously the tone and the use of the words is very, very agressive.

    That´s the kind of people you don´t wanna mess with, specially when they have plenty of substances in their bodies.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    I understood that, but why does the useless billhilly reach for his gun at the end? Show-off of pseudo-masculine powers and pseudo-canning?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009 edited
    He thought the cameraman was laughing at him. He says, and I quote: "Are you laughing at me? I swear for my little daughter I´m gonna shoot you".

    Obviously the cameraman wasn´t laughing at the guy, just was asking questions.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    FOR FUCK'S SAKE! THE FREAK HAS A DAUGHTER as well? That's the most upsetting part of the whole vid.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009 edited
    Steven wrote
    Fine, I'm sure there are some good "chavs" out there


    A chav by its very definition isn't nice or pleasant.
    Noun

    chav (plural chavs)

    1. (British, pejorative) A working-class youth, especially one associated with aggression, poor education, and a perceived "common" taste in clothing and lifestyle.


    Saying there are OK chavs out there, is like saying there are OK bastards.
    The very phrase indicates hey're not OK.

    If you met someone who's rough, yet nice, it's by definition not a chav.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    FOR FUCK'S SAKE! THE FREAK HAS A DAUGHTER as well? That's the most upsetting part of the whole vid.


    They're the exception to the rule that life evolves.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Martijn wrote
    A chav by its very definition isn't nice or pleasant.
    Noun

    chav (plural chavs)

    1. (British, pejorative) A working-class youth, especially one associated with aggression, poor education, and a perceived "common" taste in clothing and lifestyle.


    Saying there are OK chavs out there, is like saying there are OK bastards.
    The very phrase indicates hey're [ii]not[/i] OK.

    If you met someone who's rough, yet nice, it's by definition not a chav.


    Yep, that's exactly what I'm talkin' 'bout.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    Steven wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    FOR FUCK'S SAKE! THE FREAK HAS A DAUGHTER as well? That's the most upsetting part of the whole vid.


    They're the exception to the rule that life evolves.

    Believe it or not, this kind of crap usually have a familiy. Not that I´d like to be invited for tea at their place though.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2009
    I know; families with teenage or just out of school girls, right? rolleyes

    Anyway, here's a disturbing cypriot version.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2009
    Martijn wrote
    Steven wrote
    Fine, I'm sure there are some good "chavs" out there


    A chav by its very definition isn't nice or pleasant.
    Noun

    chav (plural chavs)

    1. (British, pejorative) A working-class youth, especially one associated with aggression, poor education, and a perceived "common" taste in clothing and lifestyle.


    Saying there are OK chavs out there, is like saying there are OK bastards.
    The very phrase indicates hey're not OK.

    If you met someone who's rough, yet nice, it's by definition not a chav.


    It's late and I'll explain my views better tomorrow but, dammit, you know things aren't as black & white as that, just varying shades of grey.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    I know; families with teenage or just out of school girls, right? rolleyes

    Anyway, here's a disturbing cypriot version.


    ........and?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  1. Are we turning koko here with all the links? lol
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2009 edited
    Timmer wrote
    Martijn wrote
    Saying there are OK chavs out there, is like saying there are OK bastards.
    The very phrase indicates hey're not OK.

    If you met someone who's rough, yet nice, it's by definition not a chav.


    It's late and I'll explain my views better tomorrow but, dammit, you know things aren't as black & white as that, just varying shades of grey.


    As I'm sure there are varying degrees of bastards. Honestly, a chav IS an idiot. That's what the word means. It just happens to specifically mean a particular type of idiot... one that I've had the misfortune of dealing with on quite a few notable occasions.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2009
    The word 'bird' is pretty descriptive but not all birds fly do they.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2009 edited
    Yeah, but the definition of "bird" is not "does fly".
    The (most commonly found) definition of "chav" is "aggressive, ignorant, uneducated person".
    Therefore anyone who is not an "aggressive, ignorant, uneducated person" by very definition is NOT a chav.

    I'm not sure where there are shades of grey there? confused
    Is it maybe that because it's so generally associated with style of dress or being lower class?
    That's just not on: I know a lot of people with absolutely horrifying dress sense, and not having been born with the proverbial "silver spoon", but who are the nicest, most ethical, kindest persons you'd ever wish to meet.

    Such people I would (of course and obviously) NOT classify as "chav".

    The bloke in the tram in his track suit and gold chains shouting at the top of his lungs in his mobile phone that he's gonna kill the fucking Paki who knocked up his 14-year old daughter for the second time, on the other hand, IS!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2009 edited
    Okay, I'm going to hold my hands up here and backtrack on myself, this is mostly a failure on my part in the definition of a word ( chav ), I'm not even sure why I was trying to defend them because ( aside from a few redeeming features....y'know, even Hitler loved dogs ) they are in-bred scumbags and my dealings with them go back 7 or 8 yrs ago when I was assistant manager of a charity furniture store ( set up to help the unemployed, immigrants etc ), we opporated a scheme where we took on youths doing CS ( 'Community Service' for young offenders which usually meant 'grafitti artists', 'joy riders' and minor violent affray ), there were definitely some young lads that given the right push and opportunities in life could go on to better themselves.

    From what I could gather the chavvy types come from deprived crime ridden areas and always seemed to have one or other parent in and out of prison, a fact that all seemed to be proud of on the surface but dig a bit deeper and you'd find that this isn't the future they envisage for themselves, something they would only admit in a one on one away from their friends. I would guess that only a tiny minority escape from the vicious circle of parental abuses, stealing and drug dealing easy money that they're lives are surrounded with.

    p.s. forget the 'bird' thing, I was quite drunk last night dizzy wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2009
    Oh, and Martijn, I'm guessing the incident on a 'tram' is something you witnessed personally?

    Not many cities in Britain have trams.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    p.s. forget the 'bird' thing, I was quite drunk last night dizzy wink


    I had an inkling... wink

    Timmer wrote
    Oh, and Martijn, I'm guessing the incident on a 'tram' is something you witnessed personally?

    Not many cities in Britain have trams.

    smile True.
    And it wasn't a "Paki" that was referred to, but one of our local minorities.
    I just thought to give it a more generic appeal (so to speak).

    Incidentally a job where you would in fact be able to shave the chaff of chavs seems extremely rewarding.
    Even if it's only a minority that reacts well, the fact that just one person is happy to look beyond the confines of what they have been taught, or think, seems most worthwhile!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn