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- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Noooo. Not the US Army.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
But it was the Others (well...Hostiles at this point in time)...
...also, I'm 100% for Ellie being Mrs. Hawking and Daniel's mother. After all, he did name his mouse Eloise. -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Anthony wrote
But it was the Others (well...Hostiles at this point in time)...
...also, I'm 100% for Ellie being Mrs. Hawking and Daniel's mother. After all, he did name his mouse Eloise.
Oh! true! the mouse...I forgot that! -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
And did anyone else like the low string motif for the Hostiles/Others? -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Anthony wrote
And did anyone else like the low string motif for the Hostiles/Others?
Nope! tell me when, and tell me the trombone new motif! please...
Im in lost obsessive mood.
By the way, there is a Pub in Barcelona about lost.
www.bharma.com
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- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Anyone noticed the stupid dialogues of Sawyer. He now is just a side person, who randomly says something, without any actual value. Also Desmond suffers from this.
Also, did more people of the original group die in this season than over the past 4 seasons?
Also, why is it all going so quickly this season. LOST had a good (even sometimes a bit too slow) pace, but it helped creating the mystery and all that. Now, it's like watching 24.
Also, the music seems to be dripping from the same problems. I think Giacchino gets bored.
Also, why do I worry and get annoyed so much? It was once my favourite show. I must have been in denial.
Also, isn't it also also?Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorMogens
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009 edited
Bregt wrote
Anyone noticed the stupid dialogues of Sawyer. He now is just a side person, who randomly says something, without any actual value. Also Desmond suffers from this.
I don't agree - and what do you mean by "stupid dialogues" anyway? No matter what, remember that we've seen considerably less of Sawyer in S05 so far - geez, we're only three episodes in. Besides, everybody takes turns at being side persons. Last ep was Desmond-centric and on the island, the writers focused on Locke. Not everybody can be in the spotlight all the time.
Also, did more people of the original group die in this season than over the past 4 seasons?
I think so yeah. Good riddance. Especially Frogurt.
Also, why is it all going so quickly this season. LOST had a good (even sometimes a bit too slow) pace, but it helped creating the mystery and all that. Now, it's like watching 24.
Because it'd damn better! After spending the better part of 4 seasons asking questions, it's time for some answers! And they only have what amounts to one and a half "complete" seasons (of 24 episodes) to to that. There's a hell of lot of questions I'd like answered before the end, and if they don't get cracking, they won't make it in time. I'm happy the pace has picked up - it ups the ante and really creates tension. Of a different kind than earlier, to be sure, but not a worse kind IMO.
And no, it's not like watching 24. Lost is clearly a gazillion times better.
Also, the music seems to be dripping from the same problems. I think Giacchino gets bored.
I vehemently disagree! Example please! I think there's been plenty of nice things in the first 3 eps of S05. Just in ep 3 we got a new Others-motif and some really cool suspense-music while Desmond was poking around Faraday's dismantled lab.
Also, why do I worry and get annoyed so much? It was once my favourite show. I must have been in denial.
So quit watching. You're pretty quick to pass judgment after only three episodes, I'd say.
Also, isn't it also also?
Undoubtedly.Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter. -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
I'm not.Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Bregt, I'm with you mate. I'm still enjoying it, but doesn't feel like the Lost we know and love. Blame the time travel! It opens too many doors to the writers.
Giacchino isn't getting bored, but I bet he feels a bit rushed. There's not been one scene this season that's been long enough for some decent new music.
We've only got 31 episodes left, so you might as well stick it out. -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009 edited
Watch Fringe , Lots better than Lost. I guess the only reason I watch it now is to see finally what happens to them.Goldsmith Rules!! -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Fringe is terrible.
It just jumps around some random scenes that have no relevance to each other. And that's meant to keep us interested?? -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Anthony wrote
Bregt, I'm with you mate. I'm still enjoying it, but doesn't feel like the Lost we know and love. Blame the time travel! It opens too many doors to the writers.
I agree. It opens too many doors but closes no one.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorMogens
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009 edited
Anthony wrote
Bregt, I'm with you mate. I'm still enjoying it, but doesn't feel like the Lost we know and love. Blame the time travel! It opens too many doors to the writers.
Giacchino isn't getting bored, but I bet he feels a bit rushed. There's not been one scene this season that's been long enough for some decent new music.
We've only got 31 episodes left, so you might as well stick it out.
I'm pretty sure the time travel will cease fairly soon, although I don't know it, of course. It definitely won't stop yet - we've yet to see Locke giving Alpert instructions on where to find him when Locke's sitting wounded by the Beechcraft - but I don't believe the time travel thing will continue much longer. If the frequency of the time-shifts is anything to go by, it will stop fairly soon. There was only one in episode 3. Fairly soon I think we'll see the Losties "stuck" wherever they end up. Or rather WHENever they end up.
As for time travel opening too many doors to the writers, I don't really agree - well, at least not in the phrasing. Time travel must have been on the writers' minds for a while (many things point to this - not least of which is Desmonds flitting back and forth), so I don't think it's something they decided to suddenly introduce in order to make life easier for themselves. Actually it must be continuity-hell to write this stuff, which is also why I think it *will* cease fairly soon.
That said, obviously it makes it possible for them to explain a lot of things. But what I'd like to know is exactly to which degree all of this has been mapped out, and for how long. Apart from the time travel being confusing (although I really don't think it's that bad - but then I'm partial to time travel stories and perhaps my mind is warped enough that I understand them fairly easily), things still make sense, which indicates to me that there's not much coincidental about what we're seeing right now.
If Lost went from being "what we know and love" to being something new, I don't think it's happened with this season. It happened in the transition from season 3 to 4. The O6 left the island, Faraday and his crew were introduced etc. etc. That completely changed the dynamics of the show. Season 5 is just continuing where season 4 left off. When that happened, I was initially somewhat skeptical (and felt pretty much as it sounds to me that you (Anthony and Bregt) do now), but it only took three to four episodes before I was hooked again.Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009 edited
The universal problem with this season is that there is NOT ENOUGH ISLAND. That's why season 4 can still be considered as classic Lost.
The time travel thing is quite fun, if not very confusing. I still want to find out about the four toed statue, how Rousseau got to the island, how the original "Hostiles" got there and who put the donkey wheel in.
What is nice is the writers clearly knew where they were going with this. E.g. the US military start testing hydrogen bombs there, the Others kill them all and take their weapons. Does anyone else remember in season 2 when the Tailies found a U.S army knife in The Arrow? -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Do you guys really think ALL the questions will be answered? I have my doubts.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009 edited
No, it's been impossible to answer everything from the start. Besides, that would be no fun.
Do you honestly think they're not going to end the show with the biggest cliffhanger ever? -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Anthony wrote
Do you honestly think they're not going to end the show with the biggest cliffhanger ever?
Yes, I agree, but I hope they answer most of the questions before. If they don´t, they would have had a good laugh at us.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
What do you want to know?
Smokey and Richard Alpert are at the top of my list. Heck, I think Alpert is above Smokey. -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
1 - JACOB
2 - BEN / ALPERT
3 - SMOKEYAnything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Ver true, who the hell is Jacob, and what did he do with Complaining Claire.Kazoo -
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Bregt wrote
Ver true, who the hell is Jacob, and what did he do with Complaining Claire.
Now that you mention Claire....
4 - CHRISTIANAnything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
I forgot about that too...frankly, I couldn't give a rats ass about Claire at the moment. GIVE US MORE ALPERT!! -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009 edited
Nautilus wrote
Anthony wrote
But it was the Others (well...Hostiles at this point in time)...
...also, I'm 100% for Ellie being Mrs. Hawking and Daniel's mother. After all, he did name his mouse Eloise.
Oh! true! the mouse...I forgot that!
Plus the whole "You look like someone I once knew" to Ellie. That was a blatant lie (and the writers trying to mindfuck us into thinking he was talking about Theresa.)
Edit: More thoughts - Faraday told Ellie to cover the cracked Jughead with lead and then bury it under concrete. The hatch had thick concrete walls as stated by Sayid. But I can't work out how that could be related to electromagnetism...hmm... -
- CommentAuthorMogens
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Marselus wrote
1 - JACOB
2 - BEN / ALPERT
3 - SMOKEY
Agree! If they fail to answer these three, it's very bad indeed. I also agree that we won't get answers to all the questions - not only don't I think it's not possible, but it also wouldn't be funny. Answer most, but leave some things for the imagination, that's the key.Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter. -
- CommentAuthorMogens
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
Marselus wrote
Bregt wrote
Ver true, who the hell is Jacob, and what did he do with Complaining Claire.
Now that you mention Claire....
4 - CHRISTIAN
But I think (or hope, rather) the issue of Christian will be resolved along with Jacob.Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 30th 2009
You have to remember that once we get answers, we're stuck with them. Don't just wish for them for the sake of it. You might not like the outcome. -
- CommentTimeJan 31st 2009
I want to know what those three toed statues around the island are all about. -
- CommentAuthorMogens
- CommentTimeJan 31st 2009
Anthony wrote
You have to remember that once we get answers, we're stuck with them. Don't just wish for them for the sake of it. You might not like the outcome.
I have a lot of confidence in the writers, so I hope that they'll come up with satisfying answers to the main issues they've spent 3-4 seasons raising. But you're right, of course - once the answers are out there, we're stuck with 'em. But then again - having no answers would suck as much as bad answers.Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter. -
- CommentTimeJan 31st 2009 edited
What I love from this season is there is a sense of urgency and some kind of climax. 72 hours to go to the island, the island jumping faster and faster in time... We are reaching the resolution. And that's great.
by the way, I don't think there are many questions to be answered. He have pretty much the history done. We only have to know some of the mithology of the island, and the final destiny of the characters.
You can't expect something like a character sitting and speaking all the things. He have to put all the things we have saw together in our head. -
- CommentTimeJan 31st 2009
Anthony wrote
What is nice is the writers clearly knew where they were going with this.
I'm afraid I totally disagree with this. As the show has gone on, my biggest problem with it has simply got bigger and bigger, and that is that there was clearly no plan whatsoever - they've made it up as they've gone on. They've got themselves into some holes and not really been able to get out of them without, in some cases, just resorted to mumbo-jumbo or extreme coincidence, neither of which is in any way dramatically satisfying. I suspect that each season is reasonably well mapped-out, but not more than that.
I've watched the first two episodes of this season and for the first time I'm seriously considering giving up on it.