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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
Hans Zimmer - Inception
My favourite Zimmer score since his 2001 output. Very intelligent, ambient, emotional. I hope he goes into that direction more in the future.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
PawelStroinski wrote
Hans Zimmer - Inception
My favourite Zimmer score since his 2001 output. Very intelligent, ambient, emotional. I hope he goes into that direction more in the future.
I would hope it's not a sound that gets overused. One of my very favourite scores of his.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
It's a typical "style changing" score of Hans's to me - combining very new stuff with some older inspirations (but the The Thin Red Line similarities were actually imposed by the director, who told him "Hey, everyone rips off that score, why don't you do it"). I talked to Hans a bit about it and he is still enamoured by the writing process. It was just perfect for him. He could go in directions he wanted to, crafted the score with a crew which understood what he was aiming at. Seems it was a perfect process for him.
He wrote the score to dailies and the script. He was shocked that everything he wrote, including the earliest demos, was put in the film by Nolan, to the point of Hans confronting him whether there is not too much music. Nolan: Trust me, Hans, it's fine.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
NP : SWORD AND SORCERY : THE ADVENTURES OF CONAN - Basil Poledouris
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
Timmer wrote
NP : SWORD AND SORCERY : THE ADVENTURES OF CONAN - Basil Poledouris
I approve of this headbanging.
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- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
Haywire - Holmes, David
Funky stuff. Can't imagine it was too stretching for him, but it's enjoyable. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
PawelStroinski wrote
Heavily overlooked Stop-Loss, too.
Stop Loss is excellent! -
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
I'm currently editing down my Best of the New Millennium (2000-2010) show. What a treat it has been re-visiting the 15 scores that I will be presenting on the show!
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- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
Anthony wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
Heavily overlooked Stop-Loss, too.
Stop Loss is excellent!
Is it more like Green Zone? Or like United 93? I have it, just haven't heard it. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
Think of a thematic, non-ambient and orchestral drama score. It's nothing like Green Zone.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
PawelStroinski wrote
Think of a thematic, non-ambient and orchestral drama score. It's nothing like Green Zone.
ORLY! Thank you for that. -
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
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- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
markrayen wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
I mean that he gives a twist on the sound and here by Americana I don't only understand Copland's writing (which is quite prominent in Behind the Flag to me), but also the kind of Civil March marches that is epitomized by the "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" song (The Campaign and its arrangement of the main theme with a very prominent snare and flutes, but the solo electric cello gives it a darker twist) and John Phillip Souza's classic marches like The Washington Post (the snare in The Candidate). The Campaign sounds a bit like a parody of music generally played (though not quite recently) during presidential campaigns in America and that referred quite a lot to Americana, but not necessarily to Copland.
I see! Because I've always felt a bit confused with the definition of what "americana" actually is by an objective definition. I think the Copland reference in this case is quite vague, since Desplat's phrases are so short and repetitious. The music is more within in a pop, almost R&B-like idiom with a rhythm section and small orchestral "riffs" and harmonic progressions on top. I checked some online sources and found that the term "americana" is most often associated with music derived from American forms such as country, blues and R&B... which indeed would make "Ides" a kind of fusion between the emotionally charged evocations of Copland, and the strong presence of an R&B rhythm section.
The military aspects are, like you say, parodic! It urges a superficial comparison to Shostakovich's Leningrad symphony in a way - except here the parody comes partly from the "cheapness" and banality of the actual composition. I think the irony is extreme, almost arrogantly done....
The campaign march doesn't play like a parody in the film when it happens. At that point in the film, it's underscoring the light martial energy of a campaign run by (at that point of the film) clever-but-good guys. In contrast, placing it at the end of the album, it starts to feel more like parody, because it comes after the score's most earnest music and is strangely light hearted in comparison.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
Erik Woods wrote
Motifs and themes are associated with characters and places in films. I don't care how many notes are written for one - re-using them in this fashion (the four note danger motif is pretty much "Quaritch" theme/motif) is shameless and for the most part a lazy decision on the part of Horner and/or Cameron.
It's pretty film music-like though for a composer to have a formulaic way of getting at an emotion. (Old silent film music books come to mind -- 'use this piece when a heroine is in distress, and this one if she dies, and this one if she's rescued.') I used to get all uppity about this motif Horner kept dropping in, particularly given the self-importance of his public persona, but the more I think about it: (i) is it so different from repeated motifs by Steiner, Herrmann, Korngold, Barry and Goldsmith?; (ii) it isn't original anyway... it's a motif from Rachmaninov, and maybe it's a long-standing musical joke; (iii) obviously it feels like a solution to him... and I imagine if he wrote another 4 note motif or some quicker 5 note motif to plug the gaps where he constantly inserts this one, well, it'd probably not sound very different. It makes the experience less original, sure, and reminds you you're in just another movie if you notice film music, but most movies do that in a thousand other ways anyway. I value the guys who are original composers every time, and the collaborators who demand it of them, but genius should be rare.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2012
Clear and Present Danger - Horner, James
A rarely-mentioned but top-class action score. Lots of creativity here (admittedly some of it comes in Horner finding creative ways of using past music, by him and others). -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
NP: Milk (Danny Elfman)
Nice score in its gentler parts. I wasn't in the mood for it when it came out, but today it's a good background listen.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
Southall wrote
Haywire - Eamonn Holmes
Good stuff!
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- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
The beauty of random shuffle: straight from the wonderful John Williams' track "Imperial Attack" from Star Wars to the raw "Dead Duck/Rabid Raccoon/M'Rai's Camp" from Leonard Rosenman's Prophecy.
I can probably recite most of the dialogue and certain of the sound effects in exactly the right places in the former track (and I usually do) but I don't think that I have seen Prophecy.
Extremes in both cases.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
FalkirkBairn wrote
<...> "Imperial Attack" from Star Wars <...>
I can probably recite most of the dialogue and certain of the sound effects in exactly the right places in the former track (and I usually do)
So can (and do) I!
You reckon we need professional help?'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
Big Miracle - Cliff Eidelman
Rather disappointingly bland. -
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
Martijn wrote
You reckon we need professional help?
No, not at all.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012 edited
Southall wrote
Big Miracle - Cliff Eidelman
Rather disappointingly bland.
Yup!
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- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012 edited
The Grey Marc Streitenfeld
Saw the film earlier in the week, superb with a stellar performance by Liam Neeson (Northern Ireland's finest export). I was struck by the score and I'm really enjoying this first listen of it on album; it's ambient, moody and at times very emotional. I think you'd love it Thor (apart from the horror stuff). Have I just blindly jumped on the Streitenfeld hate band waggon? Now I'm cautiously optimistic for his 'Prometheus' score. -
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012 edited
NP: Secret Weapons Over Normandy - Michael Giacchino
Perfection! Ba Ba Ba Ba BaDeBaBaaaaah!
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
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- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Secret Weapons Over Normandy - Michael Giacchino
Perfection! Ba Ba Ba Ba BaDeBaBaaaaah!
-Erik-
Maybe that's why he used one theme from it for Super 8.
lol. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
He said he wanted to use it in a movie. Couldn't have hurt to be a bit more original though, could it? -
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
Anthony wrote
He said he wanted to use it in a movie. Couldn't have hurt to be a bit more original though, could it?
Nope
I hope he is not joining Horner's dark side of the force.
By the way, You know I'm not using to take care about recording or mixing, or at least not very much, but Ghost Protocol sound is sooooo...CHEAP! -
- CommentAuthoryonythemoony
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
I can't tell any difference between Super 8 and Ghost Protocol. It sound the same for me. -
- CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2012
And both are bad recordings.
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