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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2013
    #44 sounds as if it was patterned upon Georges Delerue.

    Would this be from the 1980s?
  1. Yes, it is indeed the 1980's, and as your surmised it's not Delerue.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2013 edited
    I think I can rule out Thomas Newman as well as James Newton Howard.

    As to who it is - nobody is coming to mind, except that whomever it is had started to score films sometime during the '80s and was born probably during the 1950s.
  2. Yes, started scoring in the '80's, but the birth decade is off.

    The composer still does sothing scores the like today, with strings and woodwinds, but it's gotten more lush -- which is a good thing.

    Yes, you can rule those two composers out.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2013 edited
    I can also rule out ALL male composers, am I not right?

    And the female composer was born in the year following 1959, correct?

    The film in the YT clip #44 hails from year 1984.

    Does any MainTitles.net member need any further clues? biggrin

    (please don't give me an e-bra as a reward ... I'd never wear it. smile )
  3. Yeah, all weiners are ruled out here.

    You got it! Don't know how you got it; must have spent time on Youtube searching her filmography.


    The 1984 film "Reflections", by one Rachel Portman.


    You win one e-negligee, since you seems to hate the e-bra. tongue
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  4. Mystery Score Clip 45

    We're going back a few decades again to an unreleased goodies from a well very well known composer whom is no longer with us. The film has a famous man as the lead, and a famous singer/songwriter for the title song (his person was also scoring movies during that time, too).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYWM24f7Ksk
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
    Sounds like MSC45 hails from 1970 to me.

    It has that sort of late-'60s/early-'70s instrumentation & vocals.

    Also sounds like a comedy Western. I might venture a guess and say it is a DIRTY movie with a DIRTY song, but I would never think of composer Jeff Alexander as "well very well known". smile
  5. Yes, early '70's. Yeah, you could say it's a comedy western, but your DIRTY mind is wrong. ;-)
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2013
    Time to reveal your mystery '70s comedy Western music, jb?
  6. Oh, yeah! I tend to do three days. Forgot! I have another great mystery clip lined up, too, just need to create the video and load it a little later.


    Anyway, reveal!


    This interesting and fun score, which approximately 70% thereof is featuered in the suite, is from a film called "Something Big". The film stars Dean Martin, and has a song by Burt Bacharach.

    The score is by Marvin Hamlisch. It's unreleased. It would make a great projects for Intrada or Kritzerland.

    I didn't really care of the film, other than a humorous sheriff played by Brian Keith, so I skimmed it for the score after a while.
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  7. Mystery Score Clip 46

    Featuring a composer who never became famous as say Billy Goldenberg or Neal Hefti, but nonetheless did some fine scores, and periodically worked on some famous TV series. He also had a good share or film work.

    There's never been a release of the score. The score, as heard in the film, isn't really long, and I would guess this is like 80% of so of the score.

    This mature and often delicate score, is a fine work and I'm sure some of you would agree:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84zrEZnWdZI
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2013
    Clip #46 sounds British in portions; however, since jb mentions Goldenberg & Hefti, I rather think this is music by an American composer.

    Any further hints, jb?

    Perhaps this is another item from late-'60s/early-'70s? A TV-movie? Maybe a Universal studios production?
    Anything else ... ? ...
  8. Yes, a TV movie, 1980's, and a production company I've not heard of, that apparently didn't make very many films at all. American-born composer.

    Even though this film is not a sequel to another famous film about this famous person in history, you could say it's sort of like that, and a closer.
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  9. Reveal.

    The TV movie is "The Last Days of Patton", which served as a closer to one of the U.S.'s best.

    In the film, which I only had a spanish-dub on Youtube, so I had to infer a lot, Patton is older, but still serving his country. Then a freak car accident quickly turns things for the worst.

    Patton spends his remaining days in the hospital, face up, unable to move. Coming to peace with his death, and loved ones saying good-bye.

    The touching, quiet, slow ending has Patton, in the last moments of his life, while a children's Christmas choir sings softly while walking down the hall.

    Well, not exactly worded very well, but that's the effort I'm putting into it, so.

    The composer is Allyn Ferguson.



    Tomorrow a somewhat jazzy score, with a memorable theme, and a surprisingly rich score, for a TV pilot.
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  10. Mystery Score Clip 47

    Once again we're going back a few decades, to a TV series that last only one season, specifically to the "pilot" (I use that term loosly, which in of itself is a clue, too).

    The composer, no longer with us, is known very well to the film scoring community. He also, by the way, scored most the episodes of one of the most famous TV series that ever aired.

    You've all seen the name. cobweb will no doubt have him either narrowed down to two or three composers in the first guess or nail him straight off.

    The score, as you can hear is very catchy, has a highly memorable, if not really that complicated, main theme, and some jazzy influences. To me, this was a real treat.

    No full composer listing is available online yet for the series, but as it so far appears he only did the "pilot".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_5POLGTCU
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2013 edited
    Upon first blush, there's lots to work with within MSC47.

    First of all, it sounds like it could be from between 1968 and 1972.
    The music has a "probing" character to it, and, with some of its aspects being jazzy (with some brief electronic sounds, too), brings to my mind Gil Melle.
    Finally, I speculate this could be a TV series related to the medical profession and suspect it was produced by Universal studios.

    [Another stab at guessing the composer's name: perhaps it's Oliver Nelson?]
  11. Yes, Oliver Nelson indeed.

    You also have the year period right, and yes -- it is Universal. And yes, the character is a probing one, in fact you don't know how close you are. The medical profession, I guess that's a half yes.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2013 edited
    Hhmmm ... even with all these guesses correct, I'm having difficulty pinning down the actual Pilot.

    Oliver Nelson scored lots of episodic television - from just a single segment of "The Name Of The Game" or "Columbo" to being credited for 50 episodes of "The Six Million Dollar Man" and even more shows for "Ironside".

    Unless this "pilot" is categorized as a TV movie in IMDB, the only single episode score by Nelson for a series between '68 & '72 appears to be 1969's "The Bold Ones: The New Doctors".
    Nelson also did the pilot for "Longstreet", but also did 7 more shows - so I guess "Longstreet" is not the source of the clip.
    There's also something called "Chase", but that's from 1973.

    So ... jb ... what does this mystery clip come from?
  12. Revealed, then.

    This is a "pilot" for the short-lived TV series, "Matt Lincoln". I say "pilot" in quotation marks because, well, it's a little complicated.

    There was a TV movie that was a pilot of sorts for the show, but the lead character was under a different name and some other minor changes.

    Then the TV series came and they took the first two episodes the series, and awkwardly cobbled them together into a a new pilot, and titled it "The Cliff". I guess they thought it was a good idea at the time.

    Anyway, this is the only "episode" loaded to Youtube of the series. Oliver Nelson is credited in the opening. On IMDb he's also credited for the first pilot called "Dial Hot Line" -- I have no idea if somebody mixed that up with this and submitted it, or if he did both, or if this layed in his score from the first. Who knows. Sadly the end credits were cut off, so my suite fades out before the cut-off, just when some great stuff started.

    Matt Lincoln in "The Cliff" deals with two situations; a mother who thinks she can no longer take it, and gives her baby up for adoption, only to change her mind later and steal it from the new parents.

    The other is a young loner who "punishes" people who aren't nice to him. People who yell at him, insult him, he'll shoot them. Not kill them, just wound them.

    Matt Lincoln runs a emergency call center, a small office where they take calls from troubled people who need help.

    I'd say probably 70% of the score is in the suite. There was a lot in the pilot. It was overall well done. I guess the rest of the show was good, too, but probably didn't do well ratigns-wise.


    I've submitted the addition to IMDb, since it's user contributed and thus people like Nelon, do not have a full listing even today on IMDb. In fact, I've submitted probably hundreds of missing scoring credits to TV movies and TV series, but they've only take under a hundred. Can't win them all, so they say.
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  13. I have three clips lined up, including a special mystery for #50. We'll start off with:

    Mystery Score Clip 48


    This was a surprise to me, and I'm sure it will be to nearly all of you as well. What's the surprise, well, it's the amazing combo that apparently did happen, despite wishful thinking decades laters.

    What's the combo? Why, none other than two of the most famous names to the industry. The composer, at nearly the beginning of his career, and the other name, well, I can't really say much other than the name is still powerful and stirring after all this time.

    We're going back in time over half century. The famous composer, is no longer with us.
    What you are hearing is about 98% of the score -- as you can tell, being under two minutes, it's very short.
    This is more of a curiousity factor, so I won't say the score will exactly shake you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbWrsy8ztpA
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013 edited
    May we ask, jb, if this MSC48 is from a short film (not a television program nor a feature film)?

    Is this from the 1950s? And is the other composer deceased as well?
  14. It's a TV series, and yes, from the 1950's. As per the original post, the composer is no longer with us.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2013 edited
    It's less than 2 minutes, and there's no theme music, per se - half of it is simply timpani rolls.

    Rather difficult from the sound of this to depict harmonic styles.
    The seconds of music near the end of the YT clip brought Alfred Newman to mind, but AN did not do any television that I'm aware of.

    Knowing that around 1958, television productions began to be alotted larger budgets for scoring TV with greater amounts of original music, I think lots of pre-'58 TV shows simply had sparse use of music (and most of this was from a studio's library stock).

    So ... I'm guessing the range of years for MSC48 could fall between 1954 & 1957.

    I'll also take a wild stab at one of the composers being Bernard Herrmann, since IMDB lists Herrmann doing music for a number of shows on which Jerry Goldsmith worked: "The Lineup", "Climax!" & "Playhouse 90".
    Alex North also wrote the theme for "Playhouse 90", so he's another candidate.

    Don't know any individual segment titles, though I'm sure jb can fill in that detail. smile
  15. I had to leave out the opening and closing series theme, so it wasn't instantly identifiable.

    Yes, the year range is right, and you got the composer amongst your guesses, but you're skipping over the second clue:

    and the other name, well, I can't really say much other than the name is still powerful and stirring after all this time.


    ;-)
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  16. Ah, there's no need to drag this one on any further. Reveal time.


    You're listening to score from the TV series "Climax!".

    The composer of the episode in questions is none other than Jerry Goldsmith. And who is the other mystery person that's still famous today? Why, James Bond!

    If you're like me, you had no idea Jerry ever scored anything that starred James Bond, but he did. In 1954 the series aired an episode titled "Casino Royale" -- the very first appearence of the character on screen.

    In it, Bond is an American spy. Didn't really make a difference for the episode.
    Actor Peter Lorre does a wonderful portrial of Le Chiffre.


    And look -- I didn't even mention Skyf ... never mind.


    New clip coming up in a short while. The temp track that was "borrowed" from will be instantly recognizable.
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  17. Mystery Score Clip 49

    This is from the pilot to a short-lived TV series. The pilot was sort of a different beast, especially musically. When the regular episodes kicked in, this composer did not come back and the change in scoring was noticable. The series also picked and choose what it wanted from the pilot and altered other things to meet what the series wanted. Anyway, none of that is important.

    You'll notice the main theme for the pilot (not kept for the series) bares a striking resemblence to a theme from a very famous score. It works wonders in the pilot. There was also another huge ripoff later in the episode, which was clear as day the familiar theme from "North By Northwest", but it was so covered in SFX, that I couldn't include it. Some temp tracking guy had grand musical schemes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERak6M3hEoM (EDIT: Ignore the comments section: somebody guessed it within 13 minutes. Didn't plan on that happening!)
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  18. There's zero point in letting this one linger any longer since somebody posted what it was 13 minutes after I uploaded the video. Oh well. :-)


    Yes, it is indeed from the TV series "M.A.N.T.I.S", specifically the pilot.

    The composer was Joseph LoDuca. No doubt you can hear the temp track he copied, specifically from "Predator", which he made the theme for the pilot.

    LoDuca was not hte first composer onboard, in fact he may have been the third. He replaced Terence Blanchard (not idea if he recorded). Also, Walker's website listed she had a score replaced on the series; I am assuming it was likely the pilot, but I don't know for a fact.


    The score is big, brassy, exciting,with some ethnic percussion used sparingly, and some synth. It would be great if some label, like LLLR, could release this.


    #50 is coming up shortly and it's a special mystery.
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  19. Mystery Score Clip 50


    We've reached the big fifty. And for this I present a wonderful orchestral score to a short promotional film from decades ago. It reminds me of Delerue a tad, and composers from decades passed. This is the complete thing, minus some parts edited out for dialogue.

    What's so special about this music I have no idea who composed it! There were no credits for the production of the short. The film company that made it, must have gone under, 'cause I searched and didn't find it existing right now (unless it changed names). I also searched some other info' in the video, in hopes I could find my way to somebody who would know some details about it, specifically the composer, but no luck.

    Nobody is going to get this one. Not even cobweb. This is pretented purely because of the beautiful music. It sounds like it's original and not tracked, but I could be wrong.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPyPziJoxgM
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  20. Thanks to Youtube's copyright system, my mystery composer was revealed. I was wrong, -- it was tracked. It's two or three pieces, apparently, by a composer named Joyce Cochrane.
    One of the cues used was "River Road", from the album Retrospection [Vol. 8]: Discover the Sound of the Fifties. But there's only two tracks on the CD by the composer.

    When I have the money, that one is definitively one my list. And I'll have to sample the other volumes.

    IMDb shows one TV series for scoring work, one film with stock music, and a couple dozen films with other tracking.

    The short promotional ad, "A penny to dream on":
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynY1Eb5Q9v0

    That's from 1962.
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