HANS ZIMMER

My review of INTERSTELLAR, for anyone who's interested:

http://moviemusicuk.us/2014/11/22/inter … ns-zimmer/

Jon

Sorry I haven't been around for a few days to have more popcorn-worthy fights with Steven, but after reading the previous page I must confess I am still completely confused by the reasoning that goes, "states of consciousness can be dramatically altered by changes in brain function, therefore consciousness is likely to be nothing but a product of brain function". I don't see why the two should be so inextricably linked. I apologize if I am misunderstanding this reasoning but let me give you an example that demonstrates how I see it.

Let's say I have a fancy stereo receiver/amplifier that has a ton of different effect boards for musicians to play with. I can hook my CD player up to the stereo receiver/amplifier and choose to royally jack up the sound of the music through the use of audio effects. I can make a beautiful, pristinely recorded classical piece sound like the wailing of demons with a few choice sound filters. I can make the music completely unrecognizable. I could even *gasp* make the music stop playing! But none of these alterations in any way imply that the receiver/amplifier is the source of the music. The CD player is the original source of the music, no matter how much power the receiver might have over the end user's experience.

Popper evidently must have been very drunk at the time.

The brain may be the medium of the mind/spirit/self/consciousness not the ultimate source.

An no, Popper was not drunk. The "Three-World-Theory" is the core of his epistemology.

Come, mister tally man, tally me banana

Mind the deadly black tarantula!

That's an interesting thought about data. We copy files every day, yet we generally don't think of an MP3 as being intrinsically unique when we transfer it from each of our devices. Could the same be said of consciousness were we able to copy, 'teleport', every detail to the quantum level of the brain and body? In fact, is this really much different to experiencing the flow of time? We are not the same person we were even a few moments ago, and our atoms literally get replaced as the years go on. None of this proves the argument one way or another, I just thought it was a very interesting thought! (Whether it came from my brain or ectoplasm.)

At the risk of geeking this thread out even more than it already has been, that's a thought that occurred to me when watching Star Trek: does the transporter destroy the original and create an exact copy? Or somehow rebuild the transportee from the exact same atoms. And does it matter, as long as you don't feel the difference? (I.e. When the copy is 100% the same as the original is/was?)

Exactly. Does the "original" person's awareness (whatever the hell that is) continue, or does it stop and new but identical awareness appear? Do you die if you go into a transporter? (Even if you're not wearing a red shirt.)

Who is this Hans Zimmer guy?

Never heard of the good man. Looks like worthwhile reading.

Really? Hans Zimmer??

Indeed. I should have worked that out myself

I'm curious about THE IMITATION GAME, especially because it's the Hollywood debut of Norwegian director Morten Tyldum. I didn't care much for Desplat's score, though (no surprise there), so I'm hoping the film is better than its music.