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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2012
    Thor wrote
    I think there are several reasons for why he holds such a strong position among fans and also in the industry at large -- not only the 'lack of proper public recognition' thing (that accounts for the euforic rhetorics more than anything),


    I think the thing that accounts for the euphoric rhetorics more than anything is that more people rank him as the #1 than anyone else; not that they feel the need to compensate for lack of proper public recognition. Occam's razor and all that.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2012
    Southall wrote
    Thor wrote
    I think there are several reasons for why he holds such a strong position among fans and also in the industry at large -- not only the 'lack of proper public recognition' thing (that accounts for the euforic rhetorics more than anything),


    I think the thing that accounts for the euphoric rhetorics more than anything is that more people rank him as the #1 than anyone else; not that they feel the need to compensate for lack of proper public recognition. Occam's razor and all that.


    I think there's more to it than that. If it were only that, there would be no need for such strong rhetorics; they would be perfectly comfortable just having him as nr. 1 and that's that. But there's a prevalent sense of defensiveness -- even aggressive defensiveness at times -- that I've never seen with any other composer.
    I am extremely serious.
  3. Thor, you don't know many Hans Zimmer fanboys, do you?
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2012 edited
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Thor, you don't know many Hans Zimmer fanboys, do you?


    One is too many. biggrin

    I would be taking my life in my hands if I said that to Krisztina spin wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  5. Jesus, don't get me on her...
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2012
    I doubt Jesus could save you.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2012
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Thor, you don't know many Hans Zimmer fanboys, do you?


    I've encountered a few, yes, and while some of them are in the same category (the 'fringe' elements I mentioned earlier), as a widespread group it doesn't even come close.
    I am extremely serious.
  8. Timmer wrote
    I would be taking my life in my hands if I said that to Krisztina spin wink


    Who?
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2012
    Thor wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Thor, you don't know many Hans Zimmer fanboys, do you?


    I've encountered a few, yes, and while some of them are in the same category (the 'fringe' elements I mentioned earlier), as a widespread group it doesn't even come close.


    My experience suggests otherwise. Anyway, I still disagree with your basic assertion. There's just more noise about Goldsmith because he's the favourite of so many. There's more defensiveness because there are more people who like him. Etc.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2012
    Southall wrote
    Thor wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Thor, you don't know many Hans Zimmer fanboys, do you?


    I've encountered a few, yes, and while some of them are in the same category (the 'fringe' elements I mentioned earlier), as a widespread group it doesn't even come close.


    My experience suggests otherwise. Anyway, I still disagree with your basic assertion. There's just more noise about Goldsmith because he's the favourite of so many. There's more defensiveness because there are more people who like him. Etc.


    Alright, then. We'll have to agree to disagree in our assessments.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2012
  12. Anyone for a complete re-recording of Jerry Goldsmith's Hour of The Gun?

    http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/p … ;archive=0

    Videos:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK6dMUeU … ature=plcp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9IctI3F … ature=plcp
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
  13. Thor wrote
    Southall wrote
    Thor wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Thor, you don't know many Hans Zimmer fanboys, do you?


    I've encountered a few, yes, and while some of them are in the same category (the 'fringe' elements I mentioned earlier), as a widespread group it doesn't even come close.


    My experience suggests otherwise. Anyway, I still disagree with your basic assertion. There's just more noise about Goldsmith because he's the favourite of so many. There's more defensiveness because there are more people who like him. Etc.


    Alright, then. We'll have to agree to disagree in our assessments.


    At the risk of being obtuse, here's another way of putting Southall's argument that extends it to a common cognitive fallacy:
    http://xkcd.com/1138/
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2012
    franz_conrad wrote
    At the risk of being obtuse, here's another way of putting Southall's argument that extends it to a common cognitive fallacy:
    http://xkcd.com/1138/


    biggrin
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      CommentAuthorfrancis
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2012
    Apparently word on the street wink is that an expanded Hoosiers will be released by Intrada tomorrow; I'm glad I never got the existing album under the title "Best Shot" (was tempted to do so in the Fnac in Paris once). Can't wait to hear it remastered and expanded, love both the movie and score, the basketbal cues are a pure delight and another beautiful trumpet theme in the main title.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2012
    Never has my opinion of a film score changed so absolutely as it did with Hoosiers. Hated it when I first heard it (and sold the CD), love it now. It's a perfect album - not sure how much more music there is in the film than what's on it, but I very much doubt whatever they do with it will improve on the existing release. I guess we'll find out tomorrow!
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    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2012
    I've never gotten into it. The 80s aesthetics are a tough sell for me.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2012
    I played it numerous times ( I bought it on LP under the title Hoosiers ) and tried to get into it, never could, a rare JG title that I really don't like.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2012
    Well, it's said there will be an hour of music so maybe the unreleased cues are the quieter ones. Goldsmith had a habit of loading his shorter albums with mostly action cues.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2012
    HOOSIERS
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  21. Timmer wrote
    HOOSIERS

    I've tried several times over the years to like this one (the clips at least) but never managed it.
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      CommentAuthorfrancis
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2012
    Nice to finally have the main title and the 'first workout' cue, "the gym" is also a great moment in the movie and I love Hackman measuring up the huge arena basketball court to show it's exactly the same size as back home. Nice to see they've preserved the album cues. Great release and my final order for the year smile
  23. I'm actually bummed they've preserved the album cues ("The Finals" especially could use some judicious editing, especially with the double dipping of the main title cue), but I'm happy the score is more or less being presented as in the film. I love the way Goldsmith builds and uses the disparate elements as it moves along.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2012
    By contrast I'm really pleased to see how they've released this, keeping the (more musically-sensible) album arrangements but also adding in the additional music in a sensible sequence. I was expecting another warts-and-all "everything as heard in the film" (even if what's heard in the film isn't as good as what was recorded for the album) release and for once didn't get it. Excellent!
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2012
    Have a very Jerry Christmas!

    I've got a few Goldsmith 2012 releases to catch up with at Movie Wave and will be reviewing them all over the next few days, up to Christmas, starting today with The Shadow:

    http://www.movie-wave.net/?p=2993
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    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2012
    Nice! Good read. I love your Goldsmith reviews and look forward to reading more!
  27. Nice review as always, JS. Gah, I've had this on the shelf for a while and haven't had time to listen. Need to remedy that.
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      CommentAuthorfrancis
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2012
    Received "Hoosiers" couple of days ago and it sounds and plays wonderfully. I personally can't get enough of the Rambo'esque synth loops and to hear their first entry in the score with "First Workout" is just too cool. The balance between orchestra and synth works and I still get goosebumps from that transition in "The Coach Stays" around 1:15. There are many standout moments like that in this score.

    Takes a special man to dribble a basketball and conduct at the same time, he was a genius after all! biggrin
  29. FalkirkBairn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    HOOSIERS

    I've tried several times over the years to like this one (the clips at least) but never managed it.


    Same here. I admit I never saw the film. That's because American-sports-films almost never air on TV in Germany. When I get to see the film I am sure I will admire the technical mertis of the score in context. Also one certain sports related movie's synth dominated score is one of my all time favourites and I won't have anything else walk in that territory. biggrin
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  30. Chariots of Fire?

    I still have to see that film!
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