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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP: The Last Winter - Jeff Grace

    Has anyone else heard this? A super score, so evocative of an icy climate, handling the suspense with class and featuring a couple of truly beautiful themes. One of my favourite surprises of the year.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    Southall wrote
    NP: The Last Winter - Jeff Grace

    Has anyone else heard this? A super score, so evocative of an icy climate, handling the suspense with class and featuring a couple of truly beautiful themes. One of my favourite surprises of the year.


    I haven't but it sounds intrigueing? Can you compare it to anyone's sound James?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    In terms of film composers... not really. The melodic theme is played by a string quartet, the suspense sees that augmented with a small amount of brass. I love "wintry" scores - the film's a horror film set in Alaska, and that landscape is for me one of the most beautiful in the world, and I find the music reflects it perfectly. It's pretty rare to hear suspense music handled so well too.
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP: Curse of the Black Pearl

    It's Do bad that is fuc_ing Cool!

    Like Ed Wood Movies!

    I laugh evertime I listen this cool tunes, this harsh synth!
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP: The Water Horse: Legend Of The Deep - James Newton Howard

    Swimming is one simply sublime cue - I just can't stop listening to it. Currently my track of the year.

    punk
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007 edited
    Nautilus wrote
    Erik...the main theme is in the end credits!!!!! So, You are wrong about what you said about Zimmer.


    Huh? Remind me of what I said?

    confused

    -Erik-
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Noooo!
    Zimmer is in top form for action / adventure scores. JNH is, well, in a bland and uninteresting moment of his career.


    Listen to The Water Horse (especially the final 6 tracks) and come back to me and say that JNH is bland and uninteresting. What's bland and uninteresting is that lazy melody Zimmer calls a theme in Batman. AUGH!

    -Erik-


    I guess you talk about the 2 notes motif as the theme Zimmer talked, but it's not that theme. The theme Zimmer refered as Batman's theme is in the end Credits or Molossus in the album.
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007 edited
    CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR | james newton howard

    Wow! This is an odd score. Sometimes completely different from what I expected. There's this 8 anf a half minute cue which is quite uplifting, with percussion, Latin jumpy choir, guitar, clavecimbel and an enthousiast orchestra. dizzy
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    Bregt wrote
    CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR | james newton howard

    Wow! This is an odd score. Sometimes completely different from what I expected. There's this 8 anf a half minute cue which is quite uplifting, with percussion, Latin jumpy choir, guitar, clavecimbel and an enthousiast orchestra. dizzy


    Oooh! But is it good?

    spin lick
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    It's good. But not very memorable or so, beyond a couple of these odd moments. There's a proud, pattriotic theme (well, this subdued pattriotism). But that Turn the Tide is a delicious track, makes you happy. cool
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007 edited
    Bregt wrote
    It's good.


    Which, in the case of James, means excellent to my ears.

    beer
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007 edited
    Nautilus wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Noooo!
    Zimmer is in top form for action / adventure scores. JNH is, well, in a bland and uninteresting moment of his career.


    Listen to The Water Horse (especially the final 6 tracks) and come back to me and say that JNH is bland and uninteresting. What's bland and uninteresting is that lazy melody Zimmer calls a theme in Batman. AUGH!

    -Erik-


    I guess you talk about the 2 notes motif as the theme Zimmer talked, but it's not that theme. The theme Zimmer refered as Batman's theme is in the end Credits or Molossus in the album.


    I was talking about the Batman theme in Molossus... I still think it's lazy and incredible bland especially compared to the two far superior themes that came before it.

    And that two note... motif?... is irritating. I really enjoy the film (my fav Batman movie) but I rarely watch it because the score is so horrendous!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    LSH wrote
    Which, in the case of James, means excellent to my ears.


    I know how to describe that one piece Turn the Tide:

    The Courtship (from Dinosaur) combined with a choir piece of Händel or choir-like, classical piece.
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote

    And that two note... motif?... is irritating. I really enjoy the film (my fav Batman movie) but I rarely watch it because the score is so horrendous!

    -Erik-


    Then I almost can agree with that.

    NP:Lust Caution

    I hope the movie will do justice to this score. because it's one of my favourites from Desplat, even with his obvious self references.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    Southall wrote
    In terms of film composers... not really. The melodic theme is played by a string quartet, the suspense sees that augmented with a small amount of brass. I love "wintry" scores - the film's a horror film set in Alaska, and that landscape is for me one of the most beautiful in the world, and I find the music reflects it perfectly. It's pretty rare to hear suspense music handled so well too.



    Thanks smile

    I'm going to take a chance on this one.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP : THE QUICK AND THE DEAD - Alan Silvestri



    Missing some very good cues from the film, this short album could do with the expanded treatment.


    Still very good though smile
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country - Cliff Eidelman

    Absolutely dynamite!!! From the brilliant and dark "Overture" to the heroic send off to the original cast in "Sign Off" and everything in between. Eidelman hit this one out of the park. And what an End Credit suite. It's a lost art.

    The younger composers really faired quite well with their scores... the other being James Horner... and I have all the faith in the world that Giacchino will continue the trend with his score next winter. Can't wait!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorMatt C
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP: The Water Horse - James Newton Howard

    A very good score, but does have a rocky start that channels JNH's lighter pieces in King Kong and some Carl Stalling manicness of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, but it does change into something completely different altogether. A stronger effort than Lady in the Water (which itself was one of my favorite scores of 2006), in terms of ending up saving the best for its last 6 glorious tracks. Beautiful.

    I'm sure whether to agree it's one of the best scores of 2007, though. It's a strong effort, though.
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP:Doctor Zhivago (jarre)

    I bought it for a cheap prize. I don't think I will finish my actual listen....
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    Raiders Of The Lost Ark | John Williams

    Mmm, brass... lick
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    That Turn the Tide cue from Charlie Wilson's War is addictive!
    cheesy dizzy
    Kazoo
  1. Southall wrote
    NP: The Last Winter - Jeff Grace

    Has anyone else heard this? A super score, so evocative of an icy climate, handling the suspense with class and featuring a couple of truly beautiful themes. One of my favourite surprises of the year.

    I commented on this one towards the end of last month, James. Then I much preferred Grace's cues over Sanko's - still do. But Sanko's cues have a much harder job to do for someone who's listening to the cues without having heard them in context.

    I just love the main theme - "North" - with it's string quartet. And the piano-led motif heard in cues such as "Elliot" that's laid over the strings is, I thought, a nice counterpoint. Grace also links his more melodic music well with Sanko's with his own tension-laden cues.

    If I had to pigeon-hole this score I'd probably put it next to Morricone's The Thing in terms of what the music's trying to do - though this score here is a long way from achieving the desolation of Morricone's effort. But Grace/Sanko have done a good job nonetheless. There's also a hint of Mansell's The Fountain - "Nine Miles".

    As you say in your review, James, the CD ends beautifully. Good review!
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP: The Goonies (Grusin)

    Where is that man today? Well...In fact doesn't matter, the only thing I liked is the main theme from this movie. I remember the Firm and .. vomit

    One of my films from my youth, with Young Sherlock Holmes and many others...
  2. TheSnowLeopard wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    ROQUE BANOS - las 13 Rosas

    This is one of the most gorgeous scores released this year; sweepingly melodic, lush and lyrical, it's simply irresistible! I still haven't decided which one's best though; this or Segunda Piel.


    That's great. I would love to get them both as I trust your judgement (I LOVE Alatriste), but where do I get these stoopid CD's. crazy

    The only place I know of is fnac (http://www.fnac.es/dsp/?servlet=extende … dID=679022). Ebay has proved fruitless so far. Anyone know an english site that sells them???

    eBay?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Roque-Banos-13-ROSA … p1638.m122

    I've bought from this seller a few times and have had no problems.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
    NP : BASIC INSTINCT - Jerry Goldsmith




    Erotically charged and chilling cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  3. Marselus wrote
    Southall wrote
    NP: Aliens vs Predator

    I like this more and more each time. I've never actually made it to the end of the album - will this be the time? (I doubt it.)


    I like it more and more each time too, but is hard to make it ´til the end (77 minutes of non-stop-over-the-top-action-music is a lot!). But man, if you are in action mood, this is the score of the year (yes Pawel, the score of the year! wink).

    Playing Decimation Proclamation REALLY loud punk
    (can´t wait to hear it in the movie context).


    Actually that's the best cue of the album.

    If I'm in action mood I listen to something like PotC 3, at least that score has some decent melodies. And is much more varied.

    And just read Southall's review. Structure, there is. Though I don't agree with the awesomeness of the orchestrations, really. Tyler is far from subtle, though that is not something I would have against this score, because the film is far from subtle, based from a clip I saw, there is one thing more. The best orchestrational effects used are either Goldenthal (probably Elhai's influence) or Horner influences (snap pizzicato percussion, some glissandi, the whole Taking Sides piece, if there is something that should be left out the album it is this piece, and I would live without Coprocloakia).

    I know I will be accused of using too high standards, but well, there are a lot of composers, sadly most of them dead, who were much more subtle in their orchestrations. I believe even Horner had better orchestrations in Aliens, not amazingly *subtle*, but definitely he had more effort of giving the stuff, how to put it, more balance? There was more writing around the particular orchestral sections. Goldsmith is completely different beast and sadly Alien is not referenced by Tyler even in subtle way, though I do understand there is no place for subtle atmosphere in a film, which is pure ultra-violent apocalypse. Giacchino - I made the comparison a lot to get a lot of critique that I am unfair, but who should I compare so praised composer like Tyler to? Revell? Haslinger? Faltermeyer? Sorry guys, If I see he is so praised I want to compare him with the best and Tyler sadly loses a lot in comparison to Giacchino or older masters. Giacchino is a living genius. Well, I wouldn't say so *yet*. He's my favorite composer of this generation, but he has to write a masterpiece yet. Anyway, Giacchino has those things I don't see in Tyler.

    To write "the best score in the year", Tyler would have to be much more varied, with a stronger style, with better (more original, sometimes more elaborate). And sod the temp-track. Maybe write a bit more for the woodwinds, play around more with the strings (I will give compositional models here, but you will see what I look for here - Giacchino, Horner, Williams - Tyler is much simpler here). Maybe try some more choral writing, because what I heard from him (mostly Frailty's Canon though) is particularly cool. I'll see about Constantine rejected score soon.

    God, I tend to write so elaborate master theses about this guy... biggrin Sorry for doing it here, I wanted to respond to Marselus' statement about AVP being the best action score of the year.
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  4. Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country - Cliff Eidelman

    Absolutely dynamite!!! From the brilliant and dark "Overture" to the heroic send off to the original cast in "Sign Off" and everything in between. Eidelman hit this one out of the park. And what an End Credit suite. It's a lost art.


    This was one of the films I recorded the music off a VHS when I was young. The Overture and End Credits are, as you say, fantastic musical events. Hard to think of many composers who have so successfully hit a home run on their first major film score.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  5. Nautilus wrote
    NP:Doctor Zhivago (jarre)

    I bought it for a cheap prize. I don't think I will finish my actual listen....


    Forever I'll wonder:
    (i) how it was that the balalaika players were so musically-illiterate that they could only play 'Lara's theme' by ear when they came to record this score. Had they been able to record the theme for Zhivago, this score would not be nearly so irritating.
    (ii) how it was that the public fell in love with 'Lara's theme' in the same way that the late 90s audience fell in love with Horner's TITANIC love theme.
    Two things that go some way to limiting this score. It works a lot better as a 9 minute concert suite.

    NP: Nid de Guepes (Desplat)

    Includes - to my knowledge - the only rap song I know of based on a Herrmannesque string theme.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  6. Nautilus wrote
    NP:The Thin Red Line (Zimmer)

    I remember hear the last minutes from the second track when the wife of one of the soldiers leave him and its really touchin, or the seventh track when a guy remember the kiss with his wife.....

    And Wow.....It's really a masterpiece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    Those two moments you listed are really beautiful. I think when you first listen to this score, 'Journey to the Line' is what you keep coming back to. However on repeat listens, it's the tracks like 'Lagoon', 'Light' and 'Silence' that really carry me.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
    NP:The Ring Sessions (Zimmer)

    One of his best themes. And one of the themes with most suspense attached .

    Hannibal, The Ring and The Da Vinci Code are probably some of his best scores ever, and when He really uses very well all the instruments from the orchestra.

    I can play the 11 minutes end credits again and again and again and again......