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ALEXANDRE DESPLAT
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- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2009
So who should be writing the epic fantasy scores of our day, Joep? Pino Donaggio? Zbigniew Preisner?
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2009
http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorJoep
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2009 edited
No, Eleni Karaindrou after a few bottles of wine.
They're are plenty of good composers for that type of film, but it just wasn't a very interesting score by Desplat for me. Nor was Shore for for the Lord of the Rings, even though it is not a real bad bunch of scores, just not really ''it'' . I remember Kilar was considered and that would have been smashing! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2009
Joep wrote
No, Eleni Karaindrou after a few bottles of wine.
They're are plenty of good composers for that type of film, but it just wasn't a very interesting score by Desplat for me. Nor was Shore for for the Lord of the Rings, even though it is not a real bad bunch of scores, just not really ''it'' . I remember Kilar was considered and that would have been smashing!
I absolutely love Shore's LOTR scores but yeah, Kilar would have been damned good and I was very disappointed when the rumour that he was going to score it turned out to be negative.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2009
Yeah, Kilar would have been good.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2009
Joep wrote
Jon Broxton wrote
Hearing the best fantasy score since Lord of the Rings makes you sad?
Lord of the Rings makes me sad too
good way to make friends around here Joep
very good waywaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2009
I think, and Mikael would agree that Pearce should be given an opportunity. His Cinema Symphony proves to me that he can.listen to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2009
franz_conrad wrote
Yeah, Kilar would have been good.
But better than Shore? Me thinks nahLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
Watching WE OWN THE NIGHT the other night reminded me of how much gravitas Kilar can add to a film. Whether it would have been better is not the contention, but there's no question to me that it would have been equally strong.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
Kilar is a superb composer, proof positive that the true classical composer can in many cases produce a superior score.listen to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
franz_conrad wrote
Yeah, Kilar would have been good.
But better than Shore? Me thinks nah
"thinks" being the key word. Kilar would have definitely given a worthwhile score.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
franz_conrad wrote
Watching WE OWN THE NIGHT the other night reminded me of how much gravitas Kilar can add to a film. Whether it would have been better is not the contention, but there's no question to me that it would have been equally strong.
What's the score like Michael.....and is it available?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009 edited
Available-ish... an album with loads of very brief (< 2 minutes) score cues and some songs.
Not the very best representation I have ever seen.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
Martijn wrote
Available-ish... an album with loads of very brief (< 2 minutes) score cues and some songs.
Not the very best representation I have ever seen.
Hmmmm? Seems like barely 22+ minutes of scoreOn Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorJoep
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
But the stuff is very emotional! -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
Length is not the issue with WE OWN THE NIGHT. It strikes at just the right moments of the film.
Which suggests to me a reason why he might not have been the best composer for the LOTR. The way Kilar tends to approach a project is to write a series of themes, and then apply them in numerous variations to the film. It could produce a very repetitive score over 9 hours of film time if there weren't enough themes to sustain the enterprise. Coppola spoke of some of the issues involved in scoring a whole film in this way on the commentary of BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA. Mind you, it wasn't an issue for THE NINTH GATE and PAN TADEUSZ, both of which have loads of underscore, so maybe it wouldn't have been an issue for LOTR.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
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- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 6th 2009
Thanks for the link, Bregt. Apart from the interviewer's fawning introduction and questioning style, it's a very worthwhile read for those who like the score.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 6th 2009
franz_conrad wrote
Length is not the issue with WE OWN THE NIGHT. It strikes at just the right moments of the film.
Which suggests to me a reason why he might not have been the best composer for the LOTR. The way Kilar tends to approach a project is to write a series of themes, and then apply them in numerous variations to the film. It could produce a very repetitive score over 9 hours of film time if there weren't enough themes to sustain the enterprise. Coppola spoke of some of the issues involved in scoring a whole film in this way on the commentary of BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA. Mind you, it wasn't an issue for THE NINTH GATE and PAN TADEUSZ, both of which have loads of underscore, so maybe it wouldn't have been an issue for LOTR.
Kilar would have been given the same generous amount of time as Shore on the score too.
Regardless, it didn't happen and Shore's scores to me are the very best of this century so far.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthormarkrayen
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2009
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2009
Who is it?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2009 edited
Timmer wrote
Who is it?
Desplat!
Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2009 edited
Now that's funny! I've got a John Powell caricature on a badge which is good as well. -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2009
As I've said all along he'll be in Oscar contention for his score to CCBBlisten to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2009
at the caricature!http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2009
Bregt wrote
Desplat!
Cute. Why the artist didn't include Desplat's neck scarf is beyond me, though.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJan 11th 2009
The button icon is to bring him good lucklisten to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 11th 2009
sdtom wrote
If Desplat doesn't receive the Oscar for CCBB I'll forever ignore them. His music was that good for this film.
Thomas
I hope he doesn't win the Oscar because Desplat's score was an absolute floater in the film. Didn't enhance anything, IMHO. Actually, the film would have worked with out music. Like I said in the Now Playing thread I found the source material to be stronger.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeJan 12th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
I hope he doesn't win the Oscar because Desplat's score was an absolute floater in the film. Didn't enhance anything, IMHO. Actually, the film would have worked with out music. Like I said in the Now Playing thread I found the source material to be stronger.
-Erik-
I agree completely. The score was just a wallpaper of sound. There weren't many instances in the movie where the score actually helped the drama of the story. -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJan 12th 2009
As usual I'm wrong. It instead went to a score that I had to cover my ears a couple of times it was so loud, and gave my date a headache due to the relentess pounding percussion. I would have asked for a refund except the film itself had some merit. Certainly not the greatest film I saw in 2008 but a good one nevertheless.
Thomaslisten to more classical music!
