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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    I am happy though 'cause as with every rule there's always exceptions; my gf for instance, agrees that the kind of woman presented in sex and the city are essentially 4 old miserable low-life hacks that try to fill the voids of their lives with commercialism and shiny crappy expensive things and of course via fucking anything that moves.

    Hmmm....I like your girlfriend. Any sister?
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    Hehe sadly not; 2 brothers if you're interested wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010 edited
    I doubt it, but you could try, Steven?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    angry crazy

    No, I am NOT!

    Thanks for asking though
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    I realise that, that's why I quickly edited
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    biggrin
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    You could ask, though, if SEX IN THE CITY is symptomatic of a general "attitude" among young women today or if it's actually instrumental in creating it. Egg and chicken and so on.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    ....i.e the most pointless conversation of all times. Such cases are always a little give and little take anyway.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    Thor wrote
    You could ask, though, if SEX IN THE CITY is symptomatic of a general "attitude" among young women today or if it's actually instrumental in creating it.


    I'd say it's far more symptomatic of the attitude (and maybe conductive in affirming and cementing it through mainstream media). Its roots, I would guess, are back in the early seventies, with loads of crosslinks between sexual liberty, the final control of reproduction, classic feminism and the rise of equal opportunity and the "immediate satisfaction" consumption market and state of mind.

    I just lifted the Sex & The City example just because it's so strongly symptomatic.
    Not because it's in any way the cause of this attitude.
    I doubt very seriously whether a whole generation of women would be influenced that much by just one or two (very American) media expressions.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010 edited
    Martijn wrote
    I doubt very seriously whether a whole generation of women would be influenced that much by just one or two (very American) media expressions.


    Don't put your hands on fire my friend; many women, especially in younger ages when still immature, often tend to form role-models based on the world around them and primarily the media (fashion, magazines, shows, series, movies, rom-books (if anyone reads any books these days) and people (teachers, parents and sadly girlfriends wink ) and later on in their lives juxtapose those with real experiences and reality; some quickly abandon the egoistical and self-centered role models often proposed by the afore-mentioned and the silly fluffy pink dreams for reality and others remain stuck forever. Certainly the media IS responsible for creating a part of some women ambitions and character, you can't really assume as simply as that that the media is a plain observer and doesn't in fact have its part in actually forming characters in the today's world; sadly.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010 edited
    ...and only the enwrapment of those media phenomena is Americanized; the inside core (the expectations, the perfect male mate, the family and children of the whole hausfrau thingy vs starving-for-career and "independent" miserable lonely old chicks, the money, the presents, the commercialism etc) pretty much is universal.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010 edited
    It's not universal at all, though. It's an extremely westernised way of looking at things, which would suggest that indeed the media do their part. But then neither of us is contesting that.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010 edited
    Well, commercialism and the american-influenced western way of living and thinking is sadly spreading fast these days. Europe is completely taken over anyway.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    Sure. That's why I said western (in the sense of occidental).
    But you'll find that expectations and attitudes in -say- India or Gambia are very different. (Not that these are without trouble, but I'm just sayin'...)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    Correct. But we are mainly discussing American and European women here, aren't we? smile
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    Oh, I dunno. My tastes run broadly, D. wink
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2010
    And thus cancelling out the rest of the world which is an overwhelming majority wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2010
    Nice south park reference wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2010
    Whatever your political or religious convictions, this takes some balls...and certainly made me smile. smile
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2010
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d99_1278645274

    Technology; you have to love it.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
    Ah; how history takes classical subjects and twists them in violent ways...

    http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com … 0e8158.jpg
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
    Christodoulides wrote
    Ah; how history takes classical subjects and twists them in violent ways...

    http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com … 0e8158.jpg


    FACT! biggrin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
    I never saw anyone using words as eloquantely as 'sexually frustrated, sparkly fairy' in the place of "gay glitter douche". biggrin
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
    Christodoulides wrote
    Gotta love men and women relationships all over the world :


    I could never be with a woman who can't accept that I'm a man. It's in my nature to look at other women. That doesn't mean I'll cheat or anything, just that I'm normal.

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorHeeroJF
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
    Han Solo himself said in one of the Star Wars books: "It doesn't hurt to look."
    ''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
    plindboe wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Gotta love men and women relationships all over the world :


    I could never be with a woman who can't accept that I'm a man. It's in my nature to look at other women. That doesn't mean I'll cheat or anything, just that I'm normal.

    Peter smile


    If you really want to strictly follow this tactic, you'll quickly go 'solo hand'.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    If you really want to strictly follow this tactic, you'll quickly go 'solo hand'.


    I don't think that's true. It depends pretty much on honest communication and having her understanding that I'm not perfect should be possible to explain. I think the crux of the matter is to be honest from the start. If she can't accept you for who you are, I don't think one can have a healthy relationship.

    Of course I'm not advocating standing and overtly drooling at other women, as that would be disrespectful to the women and your partner. But looking can be done tastefully. It's of course also important to make sure that your partner doesn't feel insecure about you, that she understands that she's the one for you and that you find her beautiful.

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010 edited
    Most girls I've met (apart from one crazy nut job) are fine with that sort of thing - at times even advocating it. Can't stand women/girls who get jealous and precious about these types of things. (It's probably something to do with the fact that I don't befriend 'girly girls'... they annoy the crap out of me.)
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2010
    The fashion world.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2010
    Christodoulides wrote
    The fashion world.


    biggrin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt