BRIAN TYLER

Which Tyler? Brian or Bates? I'm going to assume it's the one the thread is about. Still a bit bitter about Bates being chosen for GotG but I will approach that with an open mind.

A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

D.A.

I am sure if Brian Tyler scores the film he will use the Avengers theme. If anything, he's the one who finally will bring some sort of continuity to the whole thing.

But Tyler was the one who brought the Captain America theme back in Thor 2. Tyler understands, even if the studio tards don't.

Do you know for a fact he wasn't disallowed or discouraged from bringing it back? Doyle's theme is my favorite part of the Marvel scoreverse but it doesn't quite fit with any other music written for the franchise; I can see that they might have wanted to move away from it.

He seemed quite happy to re-arrange "It's A Long Road" for his Rambo score, as well as all his references in AvP: Requiem, so I feel like he's the kind of composer who has a lot of respect for the composers that came before him on a franchise. But most of the time, the new films are so different that it would hardly even make sense to actually build the whole score around the previous theme. Doyle's Thor score was for a different, more traditional kind of film than Thor 2 - which, absurdly, wanted to be hip and cool and modern, while still being about Norse gods - ending up being. Could he have skillfully re-arranged Doyle's theme to work in that context? Probably. But I like what ended up happening, and I can't wait to see what he does for Avengers 2, if he is truly working on it.

And even if they're not intelligent enough, it doesn't actually hurt anything to have the themes there, as Shore's Hobbit work shows.

I'd take Tyler over Silvestri's output during the last few years, anytime.

What themes? Avengers was the most athematic, monochrome score in the entire history of Top 25 box office successes. The score was one of the only things about the film that disappointed me. The very epitome of passionless, paint-by-numbers functionality. No offense to anyone who likes it. I sort of enjoy it on occasion. It is, as I said, very functional. And occasionally fun.

I'm as disappointed in Silvestri's post-MUMMY efforts as everyone else -- but there HAVE been occasional exceptions since then. This year, an exception was THE CROODS which offered quite a few new intriguing themes; very colourful (that's the way I remember it from the film anyway, I haven't heard the album).

Silvestri's score in a Brian Tyler thread? A rather clumsy way to shoe-horn in Tyler into this discussion I think!

Yup! I have no problem recalling THE AVENGERS theme. I would agree with Matt that the score was disappointing from the point of view that this was that years biggest film and biggest box office hit and it got a pretty generic and unremarkable score.*

*I still find it an individually enjoyable listen though.

I don't remember the main theme, even though I've seen the film 3 or 4 times, and listened to the score 10-15 times. It's so generic, and is used so little in the film, that it just won't stick in my mind.

I don't think I could listen to any score 10 times, no matter how bland, and not be able to remember a theme from it (unless it is completely devoid of themes, which even in these times is still a rarity). And I do find that Avengers theme memorable (though nothing particularly special either).