BRIAN TYLER

And then Silvestri made less of an effort to use his Captain America theme in the Avengers movie that had endless opportunities for it, whereas Tyler uses Silvestri's theme in Cap's only appeared on Thor 2. Thus why Tyler seems a slightly more optimistic choice for Avengers 2 as far as thematic continuity.

These 2 statements seem contradictory to my feeble brain.
It seems like you're first criticizing Tyler for not choosing to re-use Doyle's theme, then saying Tyler had no choice. Was it Tyler's fault or not? I think I need more sleep.

Who gives a f@ck about Captain America, enough as to write him a new theme; he's a wuss. Now, Thor on the other side

I can't remember Doyle's Thor theme.

Tylers, while generic, I had in my head leaving the cinema. Is that a good thing? You decide.

One thing with Tyler is that his PR sucks. I mean, the guy can't say anything interesting about his work at all. When he talks about the geeky stuff (his love for music, instruments, all that stuff), he's a great funny guy. But when he is asked about his work proper, well:

"Well, The Expendables are one group. They are several guys, but one group, so they have one theme" - Expendables.

The masterpiece, however, was Thor 2 and Iron Man 3:

"Tony Stark is just a guy and Thor is of course a god, so they're not similar. I tried to sound a bit different and use the big choir and orchestra to make it sound different, but I used the same instruments".

Well, thanks .

The guy is very nice, he's a great nerd and I started to like his music, but when it comes to interviews, I'd take Hans any day if only for his one-liners.

I know Tyler doesn't write the most original music, but the one thing I admire is his work ethic.

Everything has a certain quality to it. If someone says "Brian Tyler is going to score ____" I immediately know it will be of a particular standard.

Then there's the sheer amount that he does - 2013 had Standing Up, Army Of Two, Iron Man 3, Now You See Me, Thor 2 and Assassin's Creed. I don't think Desplat even did that much.

And finally it's how many instruments he plays. I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's him doing everything you hear on Assassin's Creed.

His themes get repeated every so often, but damn he still works hard.

And screw is "PR" ability. If he needs to improve one thing it's producing a decent album that's not 80 minutes long.

Tyler can release a decent 50+ album if he feels like it (Far Cry 3, Expendables 2). He just hates making selections of material, not knowing what would his fanbase count as missing, himself being a huge film score geek.

Tyler's work ethic in terms of overachieving is indeed admirable, maybe except the period somewhere after Eagle Eye until Expendables 2 when he was basically sitting in his comfort zone with not much development (which started, I deem, with Expendables 2, when he actually started to move more around the sections in his orchestrations).

The repetition of themes is a structural idea he has, not really just blasting it because he's got anything else to do. I think that with his kind of phrasing and writing this fits quite well and I will defend that, even citing the basic source of this kind of thematic methodology. He's an obvious "pupil" of Jerry Goldsmith in that regard.

You know, I see these Thorish arguments cropping up more and more.

Tyler could release a decent 79 minute album if there was 79 minutes of decent material. Even a decent 2CD set.

A good score doesn't need to be relegates to 50 minites, and can stand on its own as a full release.


We're making caveats for inferiors scores. How about the score for each film he does improves so it can with stand a 70+ minute release rather than making excuses that somewhere in the loud drum hell mess you could prune 50 decent minutes.

I like some of Tyler's work but I've heard nothing that's knocked me out as yet, and yes, his drumming gets tedious fast.

Tyler fills the gap for Zimmer when you don't like Zimmer.

Yes; he gets really old after about the thirtieth or so loud pounding action score, though.

Mostly just referring to his career as a whole...I'd probably go insane after the third.

When I've been seriously training I tend towards dance/techno for extra motivation, but yeah, I can see how Tyler would help pass the time while sweating.

With my level of fitness now I'm probably at a romantic Georges Delerue score pace of exercising.

Ooh, while we're on topic, what foods would you recommend for pre-workout and energy? Sometimes I just don't have the energy to do a full workout, and other times I have excess energy.

Ah, thanks! I will give that a try later. This is exactly what I come to the Brian Tyler thread for!