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ENNIO MORRICONE (1928 - 2020)
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- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 21st 2010
The trailer for Wyatt Earp.
I never knew before that Morricone's "Time of destiny" was used. I find it über-cool that this obscure but amazing music was used in such a big trailer, and also that it's used in the trailer so prominently.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeAug 24th 2010
Peter, Southall
If you had to choose three scores, what'd it be?
Aida degli alberi
Atame! (Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down)
Bugsy
Bulworth
Canone Inverso
Casualties of War
City of Joy
Cosi Come Sei
E Ridendo L'uccise
El Greco/ Giordano Bruno
Exorcist 2: The Heretic
Focus (w/ Dulce Pontes)
Forza G
Gino Bartali L'Intramontabile
Il Cuore Nel Pozzo
Il Giardino del Delize/ Quartiere/ L'Uomo Proietille
Il Ladrone / L'Harem
Il Maestro e Margherita/ Per Le Antiche Scale
Il Pentito
Il Prefetto di Ferro/ Il Mostro
Island, The
Karol un papa rimasto uomo
Karol un uomo diventato papa
L'Avventuriero/ Oceano
L'Eredita Ferramonti/ Libera Amore Mio
La Battaglia di Algieri
La Casa Bruciata
La Dame aux Camelias
La Leggenda del pianista sull' oceano
La Luz Prodigiosa
La Sconosciuta
La Venexiana/ Mosca Addio
La Villa del Vinerdi
Love Affair
Malena
Mio Caro Dottor Grasler
Mose
Musashi
Musashi Encore
Navajo Joe
Ninfa Plebea
Novecento
Occhio Alla Penna
Perlasca
Revolver
Sahara
Stanno Tutti Bene
Time to Die
Tutte le donne della mia vita
Two Mules for Sister Sara/ Days of Heaven
Una Storia Italiana
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- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 24th 2010
It would be easier if you asked which three scores you shouldn't get, as that list has lots of really great scores. Anyway, my selection would be:
1.La Leggenda del pianista sull' oceano
2.Two Mules for Sister Sara/ Days of Heaven
3..... not sure about the third as there are so many good ones in that list. The one I personally enjoy the most of the remainder is probably Cosi Come Sei.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeAug 24th 2010
Thanks Peter. I suppose these are Morricone in heartbreaking/ dramatic/emotional mode?
Bhel, you know what to do!
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- CommentAuthorBhelPuri
- CommentTimeAug 24th 2010
Man, I don't remember anything from Cosi Come Sei except that it had an awesome cover.
It was hard putting all these for sale but that's the need of the hour.
My faves from above are Malena, Il Cuore nel Pozzo, La Luz Prodigiosa, Leggenda del pianista..., Casualties of War, La Villa del Vinerdi.
Bregt, I hope you're aware that La Leggenda dell pianista... is the Italian cd release of Legend of 1900. -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2010 edited
Bregt wrote
Thanks Peter. I suppose these are Morricone in heartbreaking/ dramatic/emotional mode?
La Leggenda del pianista sull' oceano is mainly piano with a little jazzy stuff interspersed, and some classic Morricone themes. The long track is really breathtaking, and is often played in concerts. Here's the scene it accompanies (the highlight starts at 1:55). The love theme is also wonderful, and there are plenty other great tracks on the album. This score is a masterpiece, and is one of Ennio's best from the 90s, possibly only rivalled by Nostromo
Two Mules for Sister Sara/ Days of Heaven is a single album containing two wonderful Morricone scores, the first one an entertaining western score, the second one Morricone's first oscar nomination. Days of heaven is a real masterpiece with several standout tracks. I love this theme.
Cosi' come sei is more in the vain of Morricone's romantic scores from the 70s, like "Questa specie d'amore" and "La califfa". It's perhaps a bit lighter and more poppy, but the themes are all wonderful. Here's a nice suite.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2010 edited
BhelPuri wrote
Man, I don't remember anything from Cosi Come Sei except that it had an awesome cover.
It was hard putting all these for sale but that's the need of the hour.
Damn, that must be hard. Though to be honest, I sometimes think about selling my Morricone CDs as well, as I have ripped them all to my pooter anyway. Playing CDs individually is behind me, now that I have everything in itunes, and it kinda defeats the purpose of owning the physical products.
I hope you've ripped all your CDs, BP. Giving up the CDs doesn't mean you'll have to give up the music.
I recommend listening more to Cosi' come sei, as it's a fantastic album.
BhelPuri wrote
My faves from above are Malena, Il Cuore nel Pozzo, La Luz Prodigiosa, Leggenda del pianista..., Casualties of War, La Villa del Vinerdi.
Great scores, except for La Luz Prodigiosa which I don't really get why people like. It has a great song, sure, but the rest just seems like instrumental off-shoots of the song. I haven't really gotten into La Villa del Venerdi yet. It sounds charming, but I need to listen to it more. The other 4 you mention are indeed fantastic.
BhelPuri wrote
Bregt, I hope you're aware that La Leggenda dell pianista... is the Italian cd release of Legend of 1900.
Yep, and it contains 8 extra tracks. For a fanatic like me, it's certainly a superior release. That said, I think the Roger Waters/Van Halen song is better on the american release.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2010
I agree with Peter's furst two choices but would probably say Canone Inverso, Vatel or Malena as number 3.... -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2010
Southall wrote
I agree with Peter's furst two choices but would probably say Canone Inverso, Vatel or Malena as number 3....
I'd agree with Canone Inverso and Malena, which are both excellent scores. Vatel is a very good score, but perhaps a bit of an acquired taste.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2010
BP, I'll get a mail to you tomorrow.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorBhelPuri
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2010 edited
plindboe wrote
I hope you've ripped all your CDs, BP. Giving up the CDs doesn't mean you'll have to give up the music.
Not yet. But I'll do so in the coming days.
I recommend listening more to Cosi' come sei, as it's a fantastic album.
Yeah, I will do. I did most of the addictive Morricone listening a few years back. Since then it's been more of exploring Armand Amar, Frisina, Talgorn, Delerue, Desplat.
Great scores, except for La Luz Prodigiosa which I don't really get why people like. It has a great song, sure, but the rest just seems like instrumental off-shoots of the song. I haven't really gotten into La Villa del Venerdi yet. It sounds charming, but I need to listen to it more. The other 4 you mention are indeed fantastic.
Wow? You don't like the Ricerca del Pane cue? The viola is gorgeous. It's a score that grew on me with time. It's the small cues like L'Amante Pianoforte or Il Patto from Villa del Venerdi (Gilda Butta piano) that I really enjoy.
I kept a few Morricone scores for myself and I could not part with Al Cuore si Comanda. Breezy fun that one is.
BhelPuri wrote
Bregt, I hope you're aware that La Leggenda dell pianista... is the Italian cd release of Legend of 1900.
Yep, and it contains 8 extra tracks. For a fanatic like me, it's certainly a superior release. That said, I think the Roger Waters/Van Halen song is better on the american release.
Peter
I decided to keep the US release purely for sentimental reasons and that it's a more compact listen. -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2010
BhelPuri wrote
Bregt, I hope you're aware that La Leggenda dell pianista... is the Italian cd release of Legend of 1900.
I didn't know. I don't have it yet. Is there much difference between both releases (or did you just translate it)?
Southall wrote
I agree with Peter's furst two choices but would probably say Canone Inverso, Vatel or Malena as number 3....
Lets start with Peter choices. Malena is quite available I think?Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorJoep
- CommentTimeAug 25th 2010 edited
I'm sure you can find Malena very easily. Mose.. is this La Bibbia: Mose or Moses the Lawgiver? The second is a great epic Morricone, one of his finest.
I agree with the above mentioned titles, but do think the ''disco'' cues on Cosi' come sei are horrible.
However, I would choose a different bunch of scores:
1. Revolver (Un Ami is great, the 12 minute action cue is fantastic...) This my number one favorite of all Morricone's next to Il Segreto di Sahara.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlEDlsIfArY (the releases also contains an instrumental version)
2. Karol un papa rimasto uomo (inspiring, inspiring)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IIn00h7iDM (with film images)
3. This is quite difficult. There are about 15 scores that would deserve the third place. I'v narrowed it down to these two:
La Battaglia di Algieri (great 4 note motif, some militairy marches etc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW6DlvPd_Cs
La Sconosciuta (a tour de force suspense score with a delightdul theme)
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- CommentAuthorBhelPuri
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
Joep wrote
Mose.. is this La Bibbia: Mose or Moses the Lawgiver? The second is a great epic Morricone, one of his finest.
That's Mose (Moses the Lawgiver). I'm also selling Marco Frisina's La Bibbia: Mose but someone else has dibs on it. -
- CommentAuthorJoep
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
Moses the Lawgiver is ''a bit'' better than La Bibbia
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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
I really rather disliked the atonality in Morricone's Moses (when I first got that I was expecting/hoping for something like The Ten Commandments...boy, did I take a wrong turn at Alburquerque!).
I really prefer Frisina's La Bibbia.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
Moses (1974) is kinda divided into three parts:
1.Melodic stuff - The amazing main theme, a solemn secondary theme and the great and unique standalone cue Israel.
2.Harsh dissonant stuff
3.Awful source music - Believe it or not, the source music is actually a worse listen than the harsh dissonance.
I've made the point before that this release would be vastly superior with a shorter release. As it is now it's very difficult to get through in a single listen. Still, the melodic parts are great, so it's still a worthy score, but I wouldn't call it one of his best.
Fun fact: I hear that there was actually another brilliant piece composed for the 1974 Moses that for some reason Morricone didn't want on the CD release. This piece was later reused in the La bibbia series, in an inferior arrangement. Can't remember if it's the main or end theme, but I think it's one of them.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
So how would you re-organise Moses to make it an enjoyable listen, Peter?
I'd be happy to give it another shot.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
BhelPuri wrote
plindboe wrote
Great scores, except for La Luz Prodigiosa which I don't really get why people like. It has a great song, sure, but the rest just seems like instrumental off-shoots of the song. I haven't really gotten into La Villa del Venerdi yet. It sounds charming, but I need to listen to it more. The other 4 you mention are indeed fantastic.
Wow? You don't like the Ricerca del Pane cue? The viola is gorgeous. It's a score that grew on me with time. It's the small cues like L'Amante Pianoforte or Il Patto from Villa del Venerdi (Gilda Butta piano) that I really enjoy.
Yes, L'amante e il pianoforte is one of the tracks I have noticed. I will give the two other tracks some more playtime. Having a big Morricone collection means that there's bound to be a few neglected scores here and there, so I might become wiser about those two after additional listens.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
Joep wrote
I agree with the above mentioned titles, but do think the ''disco'' cues on Cosi' come sei are horrible.
Come on, they are absolutely catchy and hilarious! That said, the rest of the album is filled up with gorgeous themes.
Joep wrote
However, I would choose a different bunch of scores:
1. Revolver (Un Ami is great, the 12 minute action cue is fantastic...) This my number one favorite of all Morricone's next to Il Segreto di Sahara.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlEDlsIfArY (the releases also contains an instrumental version)
2. Karol un papa rimasto uomo (inspiring, inspiring)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IIn00h7iDM (with film images)
3. This is quite difficult. There are about 15 scores that would deserve the third place. I'v narrowed it down to these two:
La Battaglia di Algieri (great 4 note motif, some militairy marches etc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW6DlvPd_Cs
La Sconosciuta (a tour de force suspense score with a delightdul theme)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBybBqREXtM
I agree with Revolver, which is a great action thriller score. Karol un papa rimasto uomo I find a very heavy listen though. La Battaglia di Algieri and La Sconosciuta have some good standout cues, but also alot of harsh stuff, so they're not for everyone.
I'm not criticizing your choices btw. Just adding my opinions so Bregt can make an informed choice about which ones to get.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010 edited
Martijn wrote
So how would you re-organise Moses to make it an enjoyable listen, Peter?
I'd be happy to give it another shot.
I'd just play the tracks:
Disc 1: 1, 2, 3, 12
Disc 2: 1, 6, 10
Only 7 tracks, but still amounts to 28½ minutes. That's only the tracks I've rated 3 or more stars in itunes. I've rated the rest of the tracks of the double CD release 1 stars, which shows quite well just how difficult a listen this album is.
If I was to make a real release, I'd probably include some of the clever and atmospheric dissonance, as it can be quite powerful in lower dosages. I'd also include the great unreleased theme. I'm sure I could make a hell of a release, about 45 minutes long, if I was granted album producing powers.
Peter
PS. Remember not to expect the Ten commandments this time. This music is rather solemn, emotional, spiritual and jewish sounding at times.
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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
Thanks!
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
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- CommentAuthorJoep
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010 edited
I agree with Revolver, which is a great action thriller score. Karol un papa rimasto uomo I find a very heavy listen though. La Battaglia di Algieri and La Sconosciuta have some good standout cues, but also alot of harsh stuff, so they're not for everyone.
I'm not criticizing your choices btw. Just adding my opinions so Bregt can make an informed choice about which ones to get.
Peter
Exactly. I talked to Bregt about them some more and explained them more thorougly. He loved the song Un Amico, but wasn't convinced by the 12 minute action cue. The thing with this list is that you and I can probably agree on a great number of the scores. Morricone's works can suffer from a lack of consistency; they can include one or more cues that break with the general mood and quality. If that's really important to someone, then maybe Cosi' Come Sei isn't the best choice.
Two Mules for Sister Sara/ Days of Heaven and La Leggenda del pianista sull' ocean are excellent and safe choices. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
We like safe choices.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorBhelPuri
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
Joep wrote
Moses the Lawgiver is ''a bit'' better than La Bibbia
Blasphemy! La Bibbia: Mose is way better than Mose (Moses the Lawgiver). There is simply no comparison between a rich, passionate, religious score to an average score with some great themes. -
- CommentAuthorHeeroJF
- CommentTimeAug 28th 2010
Last month I got Il giudice e il suo boia and the gritty bloody cover made me think, "Oh great, another suspenseful unlikable gallio score," but WOW, it has some really lovely moments.
Has anyone got Fraulein Doktor yet? I'm ordering it next month but I want to know if I'm correct in expecting something rather breathtaking.''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 31st 2010
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- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeAug 31st 2010 edited
HeeroJF wrote
Has anyone got Fraulein Doktor yet? I'm ordering it next month but I want to know if I'm correct in expecting something rather breathtaking.
I just have an old boot and haven't tried the new release. But from what I have, the score is rather mono-thematic. The love theme is wonderful and classic Morricone, so it's great whenever it plays. There are some rather charming cues in the underscore but also some uninteresting ones. So it's worth buying, but don't expect tons of melodies.
That said, this release is 10 minutes longer than the boot I have, so I'm sure it has some goodies I don't have.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeAug 31st 2010 edited
plindboe wrote
Morricone got the Polar Prize yesterday and the award ceremony has been uploaded to youtube:
Part 1 (starts at 8:20)
Part 2
Part 3
Peter
Thanks a lot! I love the Polar Prize awards, especially now that Morricone is one of the recipients. Previous winners have all been favourites of mine too, including Pink Floyd and Robert Moog.I am extremely serious.