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- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2009
Iron Will - Joel McNeely
NOBODY writes film music like this any more. Which is such a pity, because I could listen to this sort of thing all day long. -
- CommentAuthorPanthera
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2009 edited
franz_conrad wrote
NP: Surf's Up (Mychael Danna)
A gorgeous little sweet score. A bit undermixed in the film, unfortunately.
Next up... The Age of Conan (magnificent video game score, actually).
I also played this yesterday. It has really opened my eyes to Mychael Danna. He's very good. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Southall wrote
Iron Will - Joel McNeely
NOBODY writes film music like this any more. Which is such a pity, because I could listen to this sort of thing all day long.
I disagree that NOBODY writes like this any more. Just listen to Talgorn's Olympiques score. However, it is true that this sort of style isn't as prevalent as it use to be.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Doesn't McNeely still write music like that? -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Steven wrote
Doesn't McNeely still write music like that?
Maybe, but it doesn't get released.
At the risk of inflaming hatred and condemnation, I've never quite got Talgorn. I thought that Asterix score was horrible. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
I listened to it once, but admittedly I didn't feel the need to return to it. That's not to say I think it's a bad score, more to do with my attention span -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
I guess that's about what I thought too. I did try two or three listens to try to see what everyone else does, but I couldn't. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Certainly just because it's written like John Williams would write it doesn't alone make it great for everyone. You have to be into fanfare-heavy adventure scoring with a comic bent to go for it. While I don't enjoy it a great deal save on very rare occasions, I think it's wonderfully done.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009 edited
Steven wrote
Doesn't McNeely still write music like that?
Absolutely he does. There are many examples on his web site that showcase that type of flare in his recent work. Check out his beautiful End Credit Suite from Tinkerbell: the Movie. Or some of the action material from Cinderella 3 and The Jungle Book 2. Or his underrated scores to Mulan 2 and Return to Neverland.
Southall wrote
At the risk of inflaming hatred and condemnation, I've never quite got Talgorn. I thought that Asterix score was horrible.
Wow! Just wow!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009 edited
NP: Iron Will - Joel McNeely
John Williams rip offs and all... this is a mighty score that you rarely hear anymore. Sweeping, thematic, majestic, full of life and heart! It delivers everything that made me fall in love with film music in the first place.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
NP: The Great Fantasy Adventure Album - Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Fantastic Journey - Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops
Erik you're making me foam at the mouth with your totally stunning mini-reviews... I don't have any Kunzel albums in my collection but that is about to change, I assure you 
. If these compilations are even half as good as you describe them, I think I'll go friggin' crazy when listening to them. Any others you can recommend? I'm always up for some good old classic scoring from the 70s and 80s.
At this UK shop I can buy them cheapish and if there's any other you can recommend, by all means..."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
I´d also recommend "Erich Kunzel / Cincinnati Pops Orchestra - Masters And Commanders" and "Erich Kunzel - Epics".Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
DreamTheater wrote
Erik Woods wrote
NP: The Great Fantasy Adventure Album - Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Fantastic Journey - Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops
Erik you're making me foam at the mouth with your totally stunning mini-reviews... I don't have any Kunzel albums in my collection but that is about to change, I assure you . If these compilations are even half as good as you describe them, I think I'll go friggin' crazy when listening to them. Any others you can recommend? I'm always up for some good old classic scoring from the 70s and 80s.
At this UK shop I can buy them cheapish and if there's any other you can recommend, by all means...
I'm going to recommend to you some of the earlier recordings because the newer ones don't sound as good.
Try these...
If you just want to sample some of Kunzel's work before purchasing full albums check out the 4CD called The Ultimate Movie Music Collection. It's the best of the best of Kunzel.
As for full albums..
Star Tracks and Star Track II
Star Tracks featured music from the Star Wars Trilogy, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Close Enocunters, Star Trek The TV Series and E.T. All brilliantly performed. Star Tracks II is a more diverse album with highlighted selections from Cocoon, Star Trek I, II and IV. And you can't forget the fantastic performances of Lifeforce, Spacecamp and The Right Stuff.
Symphonic Star Trek gives you highlights from all the films up to Generations and all the TV shows.
Round Up and Happy Trails are killer western compilations. The performance of the Silverado End Credits on Round Up is almost better than the OST.
The Big Picture is really good. Solid performances all around featuring Batman Forever, ID4, CutThroat Island (the performance of the same piece on Masters and Commanders is AWFUL), Twister, Jumanji and more.
And the best Kuznel to come out recently was Three Choral Suites featuring music by Miklos Rozsa from Ben-Hur, Quo Vadis and King of Kings.
And if you have some Golden Age interest the two Hollywood's Greatest Hits albums will be of interest.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
And Star Tracks 1 & 2. -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Cool! I think I've got some ordering to do!!
Of all those Erik mentioned I've only heard Three Choral Suites, and I found it impressive, but I wasn't familiar with the music. Now imagine me listening to the music I know by heart, I think I'll probably faint !!!
Thanks for the comments guys.
"considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Medal Of Honor: European Assault | Chris Lennertz
I didn't realise Giacchino's Nazi Theme was used in this one as well (I thought Rising Sun only).
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Southall wrote
Iron Will - Joel McNeely
NOBODY writes film music like this any more. Which is such a pity, because I could listen to this sort of thing all day long.
Well, we always have the AFRIKA dude, John Debney and McNeely himself. Or the original JOHN WILLIAMS if you want to hear the source.
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorBregje
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Wow. I'm listening to the 2008 Asian score Red Cliff by Taro Iwashiro. Anyone here who knows it too? -
- CommentAuthorMiya
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
NP: Laputa: The Castle In The Sky Symphonic Suite - Joe Hisaishi
First listen!Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
La puta? 
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMiya
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
La puta?
yep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laputa:_Ca … _Sky#Title
It was intended by Swift but not by Miyazaki... (but he might know about that)Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp -
- CommentAuthorBregje
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
I'd like to know how you linked directly to a paragraph on the page! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Bregje wrote
I'd like to know how you linked directly to a paragraph on the page!
Click on the links in the content box at the top of the page. -
- CommentAuthorBregje
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Oh haha, of course. Sorry, thanks!
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- CommentAuthorBregje
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Bregje wrote
Wow. I'm listening to the 2008 Asian score Red Cliff by Taro Iwashiro. Anyone here who knows it too?
Unfortunately when I think of Red Cliff I cannot get this out of my mind...
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- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
Southall wrote
Iron Will - Joel McNeely
NOBODY writes film music like this any more. Which is such a pity, because I could listen to this sort of thing all day long.
Well, we always have the AFRIKA dude, John Debney and McNeely himself. Or the original JOHN WILLIAMS if you want to hear the source.
The Afrika dude did a reasonable approximation, but it's nothing like as good as Iron Will. Debney does not generally write like this (Cutthroat Island comes closest but it's still not exactly like this; please don't mention Lair because it's more a series of rip-offs than something which just happens to be in a certain style) and Williams doesn't write much of anything. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
"(...)Lair, because it's more a series of rip-offs than something which just happens to be in a certain style"(...)
OH THANK YOU.
What about SEAQUEST DSV?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
"(...)Lair, because it's more a series of rip-offs than something which just happens to be in a certain style"(...)
OH THANK YOU.
What about SEAQUEST DSV?
Never heard it! Would I like it? -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
I really don't know what to say. Erik will praise it undeniably.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 16th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
"(...)Lair, because it's more a series of rip-offs than something which just happens to be in a certain style"(...)
OH THANK YOU.
Huh?
People have been pretty much in agreement of that since its release! It's whether or not you find it to be an enjoyable series of rip-offs which is more to the point (which I do).