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Will you not shed a tear for his good mate Tony Blair?

Satisfying though.

Yes, they showed that on the news but without the sound ( yes, I watched the Liveleak ) that makes it quite harrowing.

I am aware of all that he has done and all that he is responsible for but I still find it a bit distasteful that these images are being paraded on TV.

I know that this leaves me open to comments about the atrocities he sanctioned but there's a sense of trophy-waving with the images we are seeing on national TV.

Oh, I certainly think that there is a need for there to be some sort of public display of their death - it doesn't take long for there to be people saying that these dictators, etc are not really dead if there's no proof for the world to see.

But to see all the footage prior to his death (and I haven't seen all there is to see) isn't really news - it's almost gloating.

Nothing of all of this news posted at FSM? Have people finally learnt to behave themselves???

I just read the news about the referendum regarding the 37th bailout for Greece. What the hell was your PM thinking Demetris and Stavi?!!!???

Do you support this? What's the opinion in Greece?

Well 2 days after the Brussels deal, turns out the bankers aren't willing to support it. It all has to come from the bankers and they don't want to pay the damage.

Now, our pm, Instead of letting it fail in the background and slently and seem like a failure of Greece that would lead to mostly inner-damages and default, now he draws attention to it. Largely. It's all political game and psychological. If he goes down, the whole Eurozone will and this is exactly what Germany and the big guys are afraid now.

Cause otherwise Greece is too small and weak an economy to have originally caused such mass damage. Now with all the attention on the deal and salvation efforts during the lt 3 years, the rest who are creeping in the dark and on the verge of similar fates (I.e. extremely problematic economies of basically Italy and Spain) await to see what will happen with the experiment of Greece: it's kind of a safety measure so that the eu won't let Greece burn down on its own.

If it goes down it will be after a massive eu deal and will take Italy and Spain with her, and therefore the euro. What alan said.

Also, the people here are suffering but are close minded and stupid cause :

1. The think that they don't have a part in this for lying, stealing and electing false governments all these years. They we happy to be thrown a bone all these years and let the big guys steal in quiet, they saw and turned the other way, everyone was ignorant and happy. They thing unidentified "others" are to be blamed.
2. He wants to showcase to those stupid people what will happen if they don't get serious.

Everybody says it, if the vote is yes and people work with governments in seriousness in years to come, maybe the whole plan will succeed. If the pan fails, then Eurozone goes down.

If no to the vote, Greece defaults the next day, back to drachma and eras past (optimists say 90's and other financial analysts suggest even 50-60's.

I will vote yes.

Hmmm...let me read into that; i had the impression the opposite was happening, but i do recall articles the following day of the deal where Bankers were in disbelief.

I think what our PM did was a mistake. If he wanted to seek the people's opinion he should have done it earlier. Most of us,even though we didn't agree and even though we shouted against all this, have agreed in doing what the big guys thought that it should be done and as I have read 9 to 10 banks have agreed in waiving Greece's debt. Yes, elections must be held but after things have settled down. I'm really fed up with all this. I just think is his way of saying that he wants out or he just blackmails us into supporting him.

I agree with you in many points , I seriously disagree in others but I'm too tired with all this, too disapponted to get in an argument with you love. And I truly believe "we" should fight this together, whatever it that is coming our way. All of us together. There is no other way if there is a possibility to make something out of this mess.

Michael, how bad are things out in Australia?

The reason I ask is that here in the UK we hear nothing about Australia - it's all Eurozone this, Eurozone that...and how it's all related to the US economy. I assume that where you are things are just as bad. But we never hear about it.

Except when the Queen visits.

Don't know if this is irony, a joke i don't get or something entirely different?

"Curious" is indeed the word. I have family in Adelaide (my aunt and uncle moved there in the 60s - ten pound Poms) and they are staunch republicans. On the basis that there is nothing more satisfying than riling family members I always argue with them about it, but as the years go by it becomes ever harder to do so with a straight face.