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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Indeed. Perhaps the best game ever invented; with a sophisticated plot, pathos and cute animals, and the music is perfect for it.

    Peter smile
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Hey Peter, you do know it's Ennio's 83rd birthday today? cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Timmer wrote
    Spielberg describes Jerry's score as having moments of 'cathedral like beauty'. As a "scary" score, POLTERGEIST is very low down on my personal list of scary scores


    Really?
    I think the eerie mood works better than many another "scary" score.
    Tracks like Night Of The Beast and Night Visitor really creep me out!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Martijn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Spielberg describes Jerry's score as having moments of 'cathedral like beauty'. As a "scary" score, POLTERGEIST is very low down on my personal list of scary scores


    Really?
    I think the eerie mood works better than many another "scary" score.
    Tracks like Night Of The Beast and Night Visitor really creep me out!


    I'm not saying it isn't eerie or creepy ( and I adore this score ) but Jerry has done scarier (IMO) in works like ALIEN, THE OMEN and most particularly THE MEPHISTO WALTZ.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    I guess I like creepy and eerie a lot better than scary. smile
    (Silvestri's Horror Stings on What Lies Beneath still annoy the f*ck out of me ...aside from the fact that every sting made my heart skip several beats)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Timmer wrote
    Hey Peter, you do know it's Ennio's 83rd birthday today? cool


    Holy crap, that didn't even occur to me before! I know the date well, but somehow never thought about it! As a Morricone fanatic this is inexcusable.

    I shall play Morricone the rest of the day to atone.

    Thanks for reminding me, Timmer! Happy birthday Ennio, may you have many more. wave

    Peter cheesy
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Well there you go, out of those scores I mentioned, aside from The Omen ( or more particularly THE FINAL CONFLICT ) it's POLTERGEIST I'll reach for over the others and yes, horror "stingers" don't do much for me either.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    plindboe wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Hey Peter, you do know it's Ennio's 83rd birthday today? cool


    Holy crap, that didn't even occur to me before! I know the date well, but somehow never thought about it! As a Morricone fanatic this is inexcusable.

    I shall play Morricone the rest of the day to atone.

    Thanks for reminding me, Timmer! Happy birthday Ennio, may you have many more. wave

    Peter cheesy


    smile beer

    So, whatcha going to start with?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Timmer wrote
    smile beer

    So, whatcha going to start with?


    Think I'll start with Il bandito dagli occhi azzurri!

    A strange jazzy main theme, a delicious love theme, a fantastic pop/classical track and more.

    Peter punk
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Anthony wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    It's old fashioned vintage williams...yes. It reminds me when Williams didn't use Woodwinds all the time that he is doing in the last decade.


    I can't recall any Williams score where Williams HASN'T used woodwinds.

    -Erik-


    War of the Worlds. It's why the action music sounds flatter than usual. Woodwinds add that sense of chaos that really make action music exciting!


    Yes there are. Not during the action sequence, right, but they are there elsewhere. I'm talking about a film score complete devoid of woodwinds. I can't think of anything other than Images.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Martijn wrote
    It's a discussion I very often have (wonder why? It's always the same thing!) with a friend of mine who's a film/TV editor.
    His idea of a good soundtrack is how well it works supporting the mood and images of the film.
    To me it's solely how listenable it is.

    The best of both worlds is a combination of the two (Poltergeist to my mind is an excellent example. He'd disagree as he's more into an "audio texture" approach. Or a lightweight, nigh-unnoticeable approach. Rolfe Kent is his favourite composer.).


    People, film game tv etc music is primarily made for the material it accompanies, to serve it and enhance it. Cd and listen ability is a hugely inferior function, not necessary at all in most cases, whether we like it or not. Having seen the film, the music always gains more meaning and perspectives it mostly can't say for itself. Judging it primarily as it functions in the medium it was made for, is always the correct Way to go.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    No. Grant you it's the only, hence correct, way to go from the film makers' and producers' point of view.
    It's just *A* way to go from a consumer point of view.

    The proof of that last statement is easily found in the fact that so many of us here own scores to films we've never even seen, and in some cases do not WANT to see.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Erik Woods wrote
    Now that I think of it IMAGES has no woodwinds or brass. Jordi, you'd love it! tongue

    -Erik-


    You know what I mean. Williams uverused woodwinds and timpani in his last scores.

    What do you think about War Horse and Tintin?
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Martijn wrote
    No. Grant you it's the only, hence correct, way to go from the film makers' and producers' point of view.
    It's just *A* way to go from a consumer point of view.

    The proof of that last statement is easily found in the fact that so many of us here own scores to films we've never even seen, and in some cases do not WANT to see.


    It's a practical thing. You cannot see everything. But it's essential to have a complete view on any material. It doesn't always suit us, but it's the truth. This is why it's a different genre and it is not simply called orchestral or concert music.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Yes, yes. I'm perfectly OK with that.
    But that's exactly the old purpose vs. aesthetics debate I keep having with that friend!

    And as he nor I are film makers, we merely differ on a point of view.
    Not whether either of us is 'correct' (no such thing in this context).
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Martijn wrote
    No. Grant you it's the only, hence correct, way to go from the film makers' and producers' point of view.
    It's just *A* way to go from a consumer point of view.

    The proof of that last statement is easily found in the fact that so many of us here own scores to films we've never even seen, and in some cases do not WANT to see.


    Depends on the film I guess. Some films cry out for scores that should be just as enjoyable outside the film as they are in the film (animated films like Pixar and Studio Ghibli films as just two examples). Some films work fine with scores that perhaps wouldn't be so enjoyable outside the films (pretty much anything David Julyan has ever done).

    Of course the way a score works in the film is its first priority, but sometimes a film deserves enjoyable music regardless of whether it's heard in the film or not. Happy music to go with happy images. Heroic music to go with heroic actions. Uplifting music to go with... well, you get the idea.

    Great themes, the sort that live on in concerts, work not just because they reflect a certain character, place or story so well - but because they're actually enjoyable too.

    I think.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011 edited
    Of course that matters too.

    But for something so heavily depended on the narrative, like ides of March, you cannot judge it outside the film alone.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011 edited
    Steven, Indeedy. Which are precisely the considerations and emotions why I ever got to get into film music in the first place!

    D., yes, I can!
    And as a standalone listen it fails to enthrall me.
    See? I just judged it outsided of its intended context.
    (my opinion on how it works in the film might be completely differernt).
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Martijn wrote
    Steven, Indeedy. Which are precisely the considerations and emotions why I ever got to get into film music in the first place!

    D., yes, I can!
    And as a standalone listen it fails to enthrall me.
    See? I just judged it outsided of its intended context.
    (my opinion on how it works in the film might be completely differernt).


    To me that doesn't matter or weigh much as an opinion. Cause it will probably be altered after you watch the film. Ides of march and tintin are two examples for me.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    NP: far and away (john williams)

    Now we are talking.

    One of my all time favourite scores.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Agreed, that opinion may change.

    Whether or not my opinion means anything to you is beyond my control, of course.
    And it IS just an opinion. If the criteria of that opinion do not appeal to you then the discussion ends right quickly! smile
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Christodoulides wrote
    Martijn wrote
    D., yes, I can!
    And as a standalone listen it fails to enthrall me.
    See? I just judged it outsided of its intended context.
    (my opinion on how it works in the film might be completely differernt).


    To me that doesn't matter or weigh much as an opinion. Cause it will probably be altered after you watch the film. Ides of march and tintin are two examples for me.


    It weighs as an opinion just fine if his opinion is purely based on the album as a listening experience, which it is! Were he to say that it's a bad score without having seen the film, then yes, that opinion would be lighter than a feather. Whether that opinion changes by seeing the film or not is incidental. The opinion is what it is! smile

    Yay! Interesting discussion finally!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Yeah, but that only comes into play for someone whose values and criteria concur with mine!
    If D. (e.g.) couldn't care less about film music as concert pieces (however connected to memorable or poignant visual imagery), then why should he be interested in what I have to say about it?

    I'm sure there are people who can speak at length about the beauty and splendour of human faeces...but not being of the opinion this should be discussed...well... anywhere, really, I ain't in a mind to listen or care! smile
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Nautilus wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Now that I think of it IMAGES has no woodwinds or brass. Jordi, you'd love it! tongue

    -Erik-


    You know what I mean. Williams uverused woodwinds and timpani in his last scores.

    What do you think about War Horse and Tintin?


    No, I don't know what you mean. He's been using timpani and woodwinds since the beginning of his career!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Word.
    And without much restraint!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Nautilus wrote
    NP: far and away (john williams)

    Now we are talking.

    One of my all time favourite scores.


    Look out! Lots of woodwinds and timpani! BUM bum BUM bum BUM bum BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Erik Woods wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    NP: far and away (john williams)

    Now we are talking.

    One of my all time favourite scores.


    Look out! Lots of woodwinds and timpani! BUM bum BUM bum BUM bum BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!

    -Erik-


    Not so much that in Revenge of the Sith or Tintin, though.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Yes, Jordi, they are featured predominately in Far and Away! The Chieftains aren't a band without woodwinds!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Erik Woods wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    NP: far and away (john williams)

    Now we are talking.

    One of my all time favourite scores.


    Look out! Lots of woodwinds and timpani! BUM bum BUM bum BUM bum BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!

    -Erik-


    biggrin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2011
    Erik Woods wrote
    Yes, Jordi, they are featured predominately in Far and Away! The Chieftains aren't a band without woodwinds!

    -Erik-


    Yer on a roll biggrin biggrin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt

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