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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2013
    Oh, he surely has played a huge role in today's film music and sound.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2013
    Kevin Scarlet wrote
    Demetris wrote
    Kevin Scarlet wrote
    lp wrote
    NP: Now You See Me - Brian Tyler

    It's like an alternate take on John Powell's Italian Job styling but updated slightly. Very enjoyable, but derivative. There's some Tower Heist in there too, but it's meshed in quite well.

    Just saw the movie. The score was adequate.


    the movie? any good?

    It's entertaining if you don't overthink it.


    Heard the score, didn't like it at all; his most derivative and auto-pilot-ish score i've heard lately. No sense of musical direction or aim whatsoever.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  1. Southall wrote
    I can't even find mention of it at the Quartet website. Was it definitely them?


    I'm confused now myself. The sure did Bennett's "Orient Express". I thought I had seen "Death on the Nile" floating around then, too. Maybe that was an older edition, though.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  2. AFRICA - Sarah Class.

    I'm only seven tracks in, but this is nice! One of the best things I've heard from 2013 already.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2013
    The Specialist - J Barry

    It's good.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2013 edited
    NP: Eaters of the... errrr... The 13th Warrior - Jerry Goldsmith

    punk

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  3. AFRICA was very good. It's my new favorite score of the year.

    NP - DA VINCI'S DEMONS - Bear McCreary

    First listen.
  4. Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Eaters of the... errrr... The 13th Warrior - Jerry Goldsmith

    punk

    -Erik-


    I don't remember if you said that already, but what do you think of the rejected Revell score? It's a very rare case of me liking a work by that composer, so I'd be interested in your opinion (three other works I can name are The Saint, The Negotiator (even if it screams Crimson Tide almost all the way) and Out of Time.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    I think Revell's rejected score is excellent. One of his very best scores. Very unique instrumentation, which when talking to Tim Simonec took a lot of pride in.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  5. NP: The Hunger Games (James Newton Howard)

    It's that curious contradiction that we find so often in film scoring in dramas... the most basic music here is the music that works so well because it's mixed into the film in an interesting way. There is one strong moment of powerful dramatic scoring -- yes, 'Rue's Farewell' -- where one of the orchestral swells really comes across powerfully in the film.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Eaters of the... errrr... The 13th Warrior - Jerry Goldsmith

    punk

    -Erik-


    One of the most beautiful and bold leitmotifs ever written for film.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    christopher wrote
    plindboe wrote
    Ahh, gotcha. I think a good solution might be their unofficial album The Devil Wears Nada. Half of the album is like a score to a Disney animated movie with magic and comedic elements, most of it with a Danny Elfmannish sound but there are also clear influences from John Williams and John Powell. A fourth of the album is rom-com music. There are only about three tracks having any kind of trailer music bombast, and there are a couple with more Hollywoody sounding bombast.

    If you have 15 minutes to spare, here are some cues I recommend:

    From the magical sounding music: Try this delightful waltz; then give this wacky but very catchy cue a listen; there's a flying theme too; lastly, a piece for a happy ending.

    From the romcom stuff: This piece is pure Rachel Portman; this one is rather repetitive, but I enjoy it immensely; lastly, this piece seems fitting for a romcom finale.

    I know you try to avoid bombast, but since this album has perhaps my alltime favourite bombastic cue, perhaps you'd find something in this piece to enjoy as well.

    Peter smile


    Thanks for these, Peter. This album sounds nothing like most TSFH stuff. I REALLY liked it! What is an "unofficial" album? Why isn't this available for purchase? Who would produce an album and then not make it available in any way? There were several tracks there that I found very enjoyable. I wish I could buy the album. I've listened through Illusions, SkyWorld, Archangel, and Invincible and decided that most of their music is not for me. TDWN, on the other hand, is just the kind of thing I like.


    Great! I'm thrilled you like it so much!!! biggrin

    By "unofficial", I mean "not available to the public". Perhaps I used the wrong word...?

    Most of their music is not available to buy because TSFH is a trailer music group, who has specialized in making albums that they send out to people who make trailers and such. These people then pay TSFH a big sum of money if they want to put some of the music in a trailer.

    Their early albums probably weren't released because listening to trailer music away from trailers was a tiny niche, so there wasn't really a market for it then. Since TSFH started working in 2006 people have been ripping these albums though and sharing them with others, and partly through this piracy they amassed tons of fans demanding a proper release. In 2010 their first public album was released, and several have been released since then.

    Peter smile
  6. James Horner - Enemy at the Gates

    One of my all-time favourite James Horner score. Coming from a guy who hated For Greater Glory because of lack of originality, me loving this particular score may sound weird, but I think this score has much more going on for itself than just the copies of his own style. I'll try to describe why I think it's one of the best scores from the man, but before that I need to delve into my personal connection with the music, because it's relevant for my perception of it.

    When the movie came out, I was a hater of James Horner. I never understood the complete love for Titanic and while I learnt to appreciate the music a bit more now (enough to give it a 3,5 rating rather than the 1 I was giving it when I first heard it, I also completely didn't go with the phenomenon of the music, that is, I haven't seen it in the cinema, only about two years later on VHS), I still don't really understand it either. Being a Horner hater, I kinda enjoyed Mask of Zorro (which I learnt to love later), which I got as a gift once and was returning to it (sorry Erik, knowing that it was your wedding song, but I have to say I dislike I Want to Spend My Lifetime Loving You, not because the music is bad, but because I don't really enjoy the way it was arranged as a pop song, my favourite Horner song is still Listen to the Wind), but then came a project that heavily interested me as a movie, because I've always been a bit of a World War II geek and the Battle of Stalingrad was something I was especially interested in because it was a turning point in the war. So I went to cinema and I loved the movie totally. The atmosphere, the visuals, the tension (the sniper scenes were almost unbearable sometimes, that brilliant I felt they were), the bleakness and, God, the SCORE! It was totally effective and aiding the film. So suddenly I started following Horner's career and I really like the composer right now (I am not a fan of the man himself, but that's because of what he said about working with Malick on The New World; ironically I am a huge fan of that album). Cristiada has, well, disgusted me, but I didn't lose respect for the man's composition talent, partly because of his Amazing Spider-Man score.

    But, back to this score. First thing is the brilliant and coherently built bleak atmosphere, even if it's achieved through quoting the most ironic of Russian composers. So while it retains a Russian sound, the more "patriotic" elements of the score (Vassili's Fame Spreads, for example) are done with the irony that was so characteristic of Prokofiev's writing... It can't be taken overly seriously in something this bleak (and also this is aided by a very dark, if chewingly over-the-top, performance of Bob Hoskins as Nikita Khruschev). So it's not just quoting the cliche, it's deconstructing it in the same way the source material did it. And that's purely brilliant. So, the irony of Prokofiev (a recurring method of the score is using Prokofiev's method of going half-tone lower and getting back to the tonic in the low strings, which wonderfully adds unease and heaviness to the music) combined with the bleakness of Shostakovich (prevalent in the harmony and actually The Hunter Becomes the Hunted features at least a reference to the Fifth Symphony's Largo (the motif for harp and flute), which is something Horner took a liking in, including downright literal quotes in his Jack Ryan scores; Achilles' theme in Troy is in part a quote of the final part of the symphony) make for something both appropriately Russian in sound, but also bleak enough to hold the hopeless and anti-war atmosphere together. Add to it another Russian influence - this time nobody other than Sergei Rachmaninov and the famed four-note motif, which is bleak in its own construct, because being based on half-tones. The militaristic tone of the movie is aided by a natural thing in Horner's style, which is the preference of snare in the percussion section.

    Second thing is the beauty of the thematic material, even if it's either a folk Jewish melody as some people suggested, or inspired by Mahler's 8th Symphony. There is a major and minor key twist to the theme and Horner knows how to use them.

    Third thing is just one track. But WHAT a track. James Horner is the best purely symphonic writer working in the industry and yes, while John Williams' film scores are the perfect combination of intellect and compositional technique aided by an inherent understanding of storytelling throgh leitmotivic structure, Horner is the one who writes scores that formally sound like they were written for the *concert hall* rather than for the movie, sometimes it detracts from the film experience (Horner tends to go a bit his own way in the development, so while he retains the connection to the movie's pace and all, emotionally he can go south, because he's telling his own story and sometimes forgets about the emotions inherent in what's *on screen*, that's a controversial theory, I know, but that's the way I feel it). This advantage Horner, the composition PhD he is, shows to perfection in the opening track. The River Crossing to Stalingrad is a brilliant piece of film music (aids the movie totally and completely), but also a little masterpiece of a tone poem on its own. The way it's developed, the harmony, the polyphony, the use of instrumentation, the way it leads to the outburst at the end, the atmosphere. All comes together in form of a singular masterpiece and a definite highlight of James Horner's career for me.

    Yes, it's a derivative score. You could hear Braveheart, Willow, Apollo 13, Balto, even Glory in it and the list is by no means complete. But still, the way it came together and worked in the movie makes it for a very good entry in James Horner's career in my book, a very well thought-out score on the conceptual level and something that plain... works.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  7. I'll wait for the Twitter comment! wink
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
  8. Just played: Buddenbrooks (1979) - Eugen Thomass

    A 11 part TV series based on the famous novel by Thomas Mann, with a great cast such as Carl Raddatz, Martin Benrath, Ruth Leuwerik and Volker Kraeft.
    German composer Eugen Thomass composed a short but great orchestral score that pefectly captures the melancholic mood of the narrative. Three cues of the score are to be found on Musik in Deutschland 1950-2000 (Sony). Thomas conducts the Warsaw Radio Symphony Orchestra.

    NP: Elizabeth: The Golden Age (2007) - Craig Armstrong /A. R. Rahman

    Henceforth I will pretend this to be the score of "Man of Steel". wink

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  9. FalkirkBairn wrote
    I'll wait for the Twitter comment! wink


    Michael will appreciate it wink
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorchristopher
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013 edited
    wrong thread.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    Captain Future wrote

    NP: Elizabeth: The Golden Age (2007) - Craig Armstrong /A. R. Rahman

    Henceforth I will pretend this to be the score of "Man of Steel". wink

    Volker


    haha! biggrin cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  10. The Emperor's Club - James Newton Howard

    This score is never mentioned when it comes to best-of-JNW-lists. For me this is one of his all time best scores.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorchristopher
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013 edited
    plindboe wrote
    Great! I'm thrilled you like it so much!!! biggrin

    By "unofficial", I mean "not available to the public". Perhaps I used the wrong word...?

    Most of their music is not available to buy because TSFH is a trailer music group, who has specialized in making albums that they send out to people who make trailers and such. These people then pay TSFH a big sum of money if they want to put some of the music in a trailer.

    Their early albums probably weren't released because listening to trailer music away from trailers was a tiny niche, so there wasn't really a market for it then. Since TSFH started working in 2006 people have been ripping these albums though and sharing them with others, and partly through this piracy they amassed tons of fans demanding a proper release. In 2010 their first public album was released, and several have been released since then.

    Peter smile


    Got it! Thanks. It's too bad DEVIL WEARS NADA isn't available for purchase! How hard would it be, if the album is already produced, just to offer it on itunes? I'd say it would be worth the purchase just for the tracks you linked to.

    Pawel, thanks for the in-depth comments on Horner's score. I enjoyed reading them. I've yet to hear that score, actually. I'll give it a bump on my list of things to get smile

    Captain Future wrote
    The Emperor's Club - James Newton Howard

    This score is never mentioned when it comes to best-of-JNW-lists. For me this is one of his all time best scores.

    Volker


    Not only have I not heard this score, but I can't even remember ever hearing it mentioned before now. What makes it one of his best for you?
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    Captain Future wrote
    The Emperor's Club - James Newton Howard

    This score is never mentioned when it comes to best-of-JNW-lists. For me this is one of his all time best scores.

    Volker


    Because it's JNH doing his best Thomas Newman impression. It's a pleasant score but when I listen to a JNH's score I want to hear JNH composing JNH music. The Emperor's Club is no where near the quality of his all time bests, IMO.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    NP: Remember Me - Olivier Deriviere

    punk shocked

    I HIGHLY recommend Olivier Deriviere's video game score to REMEMBER ME. Just when I thought all the fresh ideas in film, TV and game music were all used up, in comes this game changer! I'm giddy listening to this. An incredible and truly creative blend of electronics, post processing and pure symphonic writing.

    Here's is the track of the year contender!
    http://youtu.be/7muFgy2nw6k

    The score is available NOW via iTunes!

    AMAZING!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    Erik Woods wrote
    Captain Future wrote
    The Emperor's Club - James Newton Howard

    This score is never mentioned when it comes to best-of-JNW-lists. For me this is one of his all time best scores.

    Volker


    Because it's JNH doing his best Thomas Newman impression. It's a pleasant score but when I listen to a JNH's score I want to hear JNH composing JNH music. The Emperor's Club is no where near the quality of his all time bests, IMO.

    -Erik-


    It's one of those things that could catch me out in a quiz...

    QM: Who wrote the score for The Emperor's Club?

    Me: Thomas Newman

    QM: Wrong, it was James Newton Howard

    The thing is, somewhere in my mind I know it's JNH dizzy
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  11. Erik Woods wrote
    Captain Future wrote
    The Emperor's Club - James Newton Howard

    This score is never mentioned when it comes to best-of-JNW-lists. For me this is one of his all time best scores.

    Volker


    Because it's JNH doing his best Thomas Newman impression. It's a pleasant score but when I listen to a JNH's score I want to hear JNH composing JNH music. The Emperor's Club is no where near the quality of his all time bests, IMO.

    -Erik-


    You have a point here. It's really not a very typical JNH score. Yet it fitts the film like a glove and I like the film very much. The main theme is beautiful, Newman pastiche or not.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Remember Me - Olivier Deriviere

    punk shocked

    I HIGHLY recommend Olivier Deriviere's video game score to REMEMBER ME. Just when I thought all the fresh ideas in film, TV and game music were all used up, in comes this game changer! I'm giddy listening to this. An incredible and truly creative blend of electronics, post processing and pure symphonic writing.

    Here's is the track of the year contender!
    http://youtu.be/7muFgy2nw6k

    The score is available NOW via iTunes!

    AMAZING!

    -Erik-


    Indeed, good stuff, liked it punk
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013 edited
    I usually only have these type of soundtrack listening experiences when I hear a new John Williams score. I'm getting goosebumps listening to ACTION MUSIC for Christ sakes! All the post electronic processing is some of the coolest shit I've ever heard in a film, TV or video game score! I'm not kidding when I say that this is a game changer! This is one of the most unique soundtracks I've ever heard! Never thought I'd say that in 2013!

    If I had to compare it to anything then I'd say it's a hybrid of Tron Legacy, The Matrix and David Arnold's Bond music!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  12. Jesus, I'll listen to it then!

    First though (still on Enemy at the Gates), I intend to have a first listen to None of the Brave, the 1965 John Williams score and my first pre-70s Williams I'll listen to.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  13. NP: The Hunger Games - James Newton Howard

    Gonna see the film tomorrow for the first time.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013
    Captain Future wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Captain Future wrote
    The Emperor's Club - James Newton Howard

    This score is never mentioned when it comes to best-of-JNW-lists. For me this is one of his all time best scores.

    Volker


    Because it's JNH doing his best Thomas Newman impression. It's a pleasant score but when I listen to a JNH's score I want to hear JNH composing JNH music. The Emperor's Club is no where near the quality of his all time bests, IMO.

    -Erik-


    You have a point here. It's really not a very typical JNH score. Yet it fitts the film like a glove and I like the film very much. The main theme is beautiful, Newman pastiche or not.


    "Pastiche" is a kind word I think. "Plagiarism" is the one I'd use. It might not quite meet the demands of a lawsuit, but in moral terms it is. It's Scent of a Woman, very very slightly rearranged. Large parts of the score are. Not just the main theme.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2013 edited
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Jesus, I'll listen to it then!

    First though (still on Enemy at the Gates), I intend to have a first listen to None of the Brave, the 1965 John Williams score and my first pre-70s Williams I'll listen to.


    Cool choice! I NP'ed that a few posts up. Don't expect contemporary Williams, though. This is quite moody and broody throughout. The interesting thing is the Japanese instrumentation at times, the Rozsa harmonization in the main titles and a few other things. I love to hear what you think. There is too little talk about lesser known Williams in here.
    I am extremely serious.