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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    DreamTheater wrote
    Well yes, I wouldn't care either for a norwegian film with chinese dubbing. rolleyes


    True, come on Thor, watch the original!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    DreamTheater wrote
    Mad Max: Fury Road

    It's extremely disappointing that a man like George Miller, a veteran director who has made films with absolutely great scores in them, decided to go with a third-rate creator of obnoxious sounds and what is supposed to pass for music like Junkie XL. For me it's the one terrible decision about this production. The action is stunningly shot, the visual design is fantastic, the acting is more than decent, and last but not least it has real live stunts and only CGI to enhance certain scenes.

    I have a weird feeling when I finish watching it (my third time now). I want to love it for everything that's good about it, however that horrendous score absolutely ruins it for me. I can only imagine how much of a better movie we would've have gotten if Miller had decided to go with some real musical talent.


    Score was horrible. But wasn't too crazy about the film either.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    Nonsense! Both score and film are in their respective Top 10 lists of last year.
    I am extremely serious.
  4. I'm with Gilles. The score stands out like a sore thumb as the one production aspect in that otherwise glorious film that could have been just so, so, so much better.

    Once again, what I wouldn't have given to have Powell stick with that project... cry
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    Oh yes, why don't we go one step further? The film would have been SOOO much better with a score by Georges Delerue or Max Steiner (had they been alive). That's SOOOO much more in line with what Miller was trying to do with this film.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorDreamTheater
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    Imagine what Don Davis or Elliot Goldenthal could've done with Mad Max, if these men were still around. Because the way Miller made Fury Road, it seems totally suited to their respective styles. They would've actually written proper music.

    Junkie just wrote noise. vomit

    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    I'm with Gilles. The score stands out like a sore thumb as the one production aspect in that otherwise glorious film that could have been just so, so, so much better.

    Once again, what I wouldn't have given to have Powell stick with that project... cry


    What... ??? Stop the press... hold the phone !!!!!! shocked shocked shocked

    You... agree... with me.... on something??????? cheesy beer
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
  7. Powell's probably not the guy you'd want either, but yes, I think you'll find that we agree on more than you think. wink
  8. Thor wrote
    Oh yes, why don't we go one step further? The film would have been SOOO much better with a score by Georges Delerue or Max Steiner (had they been alive). That's SOOOO much more in line with what Miller was trying to do with this film.

    Once again, I'm not questioning the approach taken to the music - I'm questioning the execution.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Thor wrote
    Oh yes, why don't we go one step further? The film would have been SOOO much better with a score by Georges Delerue or Max Steiner (had they been alive). That's SOOOO much more in line with what Miller was trying to do with this film.

    Once again, I'm not questioning the approach taken to the music - I'm questioning the execution.


    I find the execution pretty much perfect. Totally in line with the energetic heavy metal mayhem Miller was going for (there was even an in-film heavy metal guitar player, for chrissakes!). As much as I love that aspect of the score, though, I'm even more fascinated with the more downtempo, traditional elements (which people seem to forget when talking about this score).
    I am extremely serious.
  10. Actually, I'd even say the score isn't metal enough. The parts where the electric guitar chip in are actually among the score's more engaging, but otherwise, it's just endless bland drumming. There's very little of the crazy energy I associate with metal music. It could have used a lot more of that Doof Warrior attitude throughout. In film score terms, I'm thinking along the lines of Christopher Young in The Ghost Rider mode.

    The softer parts are pleasant, yes, but not much more.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    I think it would be wrong to go for a 'heavy metal' score here, in the traditional sense. By 'heavy metal', I rather mean the metallic and physical feel of the whole film, the clanging of cars and sand and dust and what-have-you. So it makes sense to retain the drumming while not over-doing the guitar stuff (all the more effective when it comes in, usually with the 'flame guitar guy'). The sound effects are in many ways the music, and the drumming and electronic modulations are the pulse beneath. It's totally organic to the universe Miller draws up.
    I am extremely serious.
  12. Metallica during their Master of Puppets and The Black Album era would be pretty much the bomb for Mad Max. punk

    And yes 'endless bland drumming', that is what it boils down to with that Extra-Large dude from Holland. biggrin
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    Junk XL is a Hollywood producers' phase. I suspect this one-hit wonder will soon find his projects drying up. A limited and inappropriate set of skills will only get you so far in film scoring.

    #ThanksHans
  14. One would hope. Instead the IMDB has him down for scoring the Godzilla sequel and, more worryingly, the upcoming adaptation of Stephen King's The Dark Tower. The former would be a travesty; the latter, an unmitigated disaster. Please, please let all this only be rumor. sad
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    You guys can go suck on a donkey stick!

    JXL is a talented guy who I hope will continue to score films for many, many more years, and continue to grow as a composer in that idiom (he's already impressed me multiple times with his dramatic insight).

    LONG LIVE JXL!!
    I am extremely serious.
  16. The guy can go on remixing Elvis songs until he's in his 90s for all I care...just keep him away from the Tower, please, please.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    The proof is in the pudding etc.

    One of the best things happening in "film score world" right now is the import of artists from the electronica scene (or pop music, for that matter) coming in and doing film scores that aren't as conventional as the traditionalists. It doesn't guarantee greatness, of course, but it works more often than not: M83, Orbital, The Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk, BT, Underworld etc. -- and yes, JXL.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    I agree Thor ( though I'm not as enamoured with as many of the results as yourself )

    Let us not forget the likes of John Barry and Danny Elfman came from pop music backgrounds.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    I don't care what a composer's background is, I care whether they're any good.
  20. yeah

    The proof, as our Norwegian just said, is in the pudding.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    Steven wrote
    I don't care what a composer's background is, I care whether they're any good.


    Me too, but I like it when artists bring their sounds and approaches and whatnot from their former 'specialty' backgrounds into film music -- whether it is Goldenthal bringing his concert music trademarks or Paul van Dyk bringing his psytrance roots. Keeps things fresh!
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    But now you simply equate "new" to "fresh".
    When it is neither!

    (There is nothing new about JXL's stylings. At all.
    And fresh...well, the stench of shit in a public toilet is very organic. But I still prefer the lavatory attendant to employ a violet-scented spray any day).
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    I mean that the IDEA of importing artists from other areas of music is fresh or refreshing (film music specialists are fine, but it would be a terribly boring world if that's all there were). Whether the music itself is so, is in the eye of the beholder. I happen to like most of the stuff by these people, and I also think it's a "refreshing sound" and approach. Including JXL. The negative dismissals he's getting seems to be totally without any root in reality, IMO.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    Ah, OK, refreshing the area, I agree with (although you will always get this influx of more or less creative minds who think that just because they can do one thing, they can do another. E.g. Bruce Willis' singing career. Jessica Simpson's acting. JXL's film music).

    But to suggest that there is no root in reality for JXL's dismissal seems an odd turnabout of actual reality.
    It's just another trend with no intrinsic value.
    Like synthy TV scores in the eighties.
    A very few exceptions notwithstanding no one in ten years time (or indeed ten months time) will recognise any of the tracks he composed.
    His work fits a current phase.
    It'll pass.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    Thor wrote
    The negative dismissals he's getting seems to be totally without any root in reality, IMO.


    Newton's Third Law.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    Cheap dismissals are easy, but how many of you are actually approaching this with an open mind? How many have sat down to see how the score works in the movie? How many have actually heard the range of styles within the MAD MAX score (beyond -- and even within -- the drum-heavy cues)?

    It's my impression that most people just hear lots of drumming, and then draw a sweeping dismissal from that. That's what I mean with having no root in reality.

    But at this point, my stamina for defending JXL against what I perceive as rather reactionary segments in the film score community is wearing out. All I can say is "my gain, your loss" for finding pleasure and value in this music.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    Thor wrote
    It's my impression


    Quite.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    Thor wrote
    But at this point, my stamina for defending JXL against what I perceive as rather reactionary segments in the film score community is wearing out.


    Yes! We did it! We won!!

    fireworks
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016
    Thor wrote
    All I can say is "my gain, your loss" for finding pleasure and value in this music.


    No problem with that.
    What IS a problem (for me) is that, being in the Zimmer stable and jumping on the drone bandwagon, he is getting more and more high-profile assignments. So while this fad continues your gain IS my loss. sad

    That said, more and more specialty labels are popping up -against all expectation!- offering often utterly obscure but gorgeous orchestral works for minor films, video games, TV specials, documentaries. So it's not like the well is empty.
    It's just a change of focus and a slow (and surely not enduring) move away from blockbusters for me.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2016 edited
    Steven wrote
    Yes! We did it! We won!!


    fireworks Valka sconcila! fireworks
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn

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