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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2013
    There's something about The Abyss which reveals something very curious about the psyche of the film music obsessive.

    "Oh, I love The Abyss. Well, actually, most of it's really boring but I really love the finale. That finale's amazing. I wish the rest of it was more like that."
    <Varese Sarabande releases an album with 35 additional minutes of music, which is all like the parts everyone thinks are boring.>
    "AWESOME!"
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2013
    Addendum: I'll probably buy it. I'm one of those who actually likes the boring bits.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2013 edited
    Southall wrote
    There's something about The Abyss which reveals something very curious about the psyche of the film music obsessive.

    "Oh, I love The Abyss. Well, actually, most of it's really boring but I really love the finale. That finale's amazing. I wish the rest of it was more like that."
    <Varese Sarabande releases an album with 35 additional minutes of music, which is all like the parts everyone thinks are boring.>
    "AWESOME!"


    He, he....indeed. It's like the C&C thing has gone totally havoc. More automatically means better for these people, disregarding the actual quality of the extra music.

    Although the score is very important to me -- one that really got me into soundtracks -- I doubt I'll pick up this new one.
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2013
    Thor, I've learned over the past few years that more definitely does not mean better. I still enjoy long releases for particularly excellent scores like Lord of the Rings, Armageddon, Star Wars, things like that...but otherwise, I feel like its a waste of my time to slog through 2 hours of expanded / complete / recording sessions whether its a legitimate release or not. Just give me the highlights so I have more time to move on to the hundreds of other things I want to discover, whether its film music or classical or even *gasp* pop music.

    There were a few cases, Armageddon again comes to mind, where the best music was literally completely missing from the official release. Expanded releases are useful in that case. But album producers are becoming wiser and realizing what score fans actually want, so its rather rare these days to be missing the best parts of a film score on the album, eliminating most of the upside of C&C releases. I will be listening to the expanded version of Hobbit 2 just because I'm paranoid of missing good music and this is a specially good score, but a large part of me would rather just have a single disc put together with the extraordinarily brilliant sequencing that happened with the original LotR albums.

    So, I agree with Thor more than I realized in the past smile
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  1. I want to relive the film I love by listening to the score. There it begins and there it ends. Therefor I love C&C releases.

    Abyss: To me there is nothing boring about that score whatsoever.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  2. There are scores that I gained completely new respect for in C&C forum, I think the most notable examples are, really, The Peacemaker and First Blood, which I always liked a lot, but totally wowed me with its structural ingenuity in the Intrada form.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2013 edited
    Captain Future wrote
    I want to relive the film I love by listening to the score.


    Therein lies our fundamental difference. I only relive movies by actually rewatching them. For soundtrack listening, I strive to disassociate myself from the movie as much as humanly possible. For me, soundtracks are just an extension of the type of concept album we both like so much outside the film music umbrella.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2013
    Thor wrote
    For soundtrack listening, I strive to disassociate myself from the movie as much as humanly possible.


    From one score fan to another...
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2013
    Weird is good! smile
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  3. I find myself unable to agree with either Volker's or Thor's viewpoints. I support C&C releases on principle, because somewhere out there someone is bound to enjoy pretty much any music you put on CD. Personally I rarely listen to albums all the way through after the first few times anyway, preferring to pick and choose my own playlist of highlights - and for the purpose of that, having the largest amount of music available is the optimum for me because then I can pick what I like and what I don't, and don't feel as though I'm missing something.

    On the other hand, I've listened to plenty of fantastic scores without knowing (or caring) a damn thing about the film other than, perhaps, genre and basic plot. Exhibit A being Cutthroat Island. Limiting your film music listening only to films you know/like is just that - limiting.
  4. Agreed, mostly. Ther only thing I would differ with you on, Edmund, is that I don't care what the genre is, as long as the score is good. It could be from a Justin Bieber autobiography film, just as long as I never have to see it, the score will do just fine.

    In fact, many of my deeply personal favorite scores are to films I have never seen. And a number more grails are to films I only saw once, just to hear the score since there has been no score release.

    If I limited myself to films I have seen, I'd only have a couple dozen scores in my collection -- what a horrible thing.


    I love complete releases. Chronilogical doesn't necessarily mean anything to me, as a number of fans are under the delusion that a composer always starts writing the first cue in the film to the end; this simply isn't the case for every film; composers will often start with just a theme, or source music to be played on set while filming, or with what ever scenes they have available because of shooting and time schedules, etc., therefore there isn't some evolution in the score and any build is purely coincidental.

    I have complete score releases where every note is accounted for, but I still wish there was more.
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  5. About the genre thing, it does help for me to know something like that. I don't need to have seen the film, necessarily, or even really know the story, but to take my example of Cutthroat Island from above, all I need to know is that it's a pirate movie and that helps me appreciate Debney's tip-of-the-hat to Korngold a little bit more. By all accounts, the movie itself is rubbish and the one that always plays in my head when I listen to that score is undoubtedly superior. punk

    justin boggan wrote
    therefore there isn't some evolution in the score and any build is purely coincidental.

    Otherwise I agree with everything you just said except for this. All of the truly great scores have narrative flow and you can only get that by hearing it in the right order.

    justin boggan wrote
    I have complete score releases where every note is accounted for, but I still wish there was more.

    Me too! beer
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2013
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Otherwise I agree with everything you just said except for this. All of the truly great scores have narrative flow and you can only get that by hearing it in the right order.


    In your opinion, let's stress that. It's not a fact, since we obviously disagree on what the 'right order' is.
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      CommentAuthorfrancis
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2013 edited
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    I find myself unable to agree with either Volker's or Thor's viewpoints. I support C&C releases on principle, because somewhere out there someone is bound to enjoy pretty much any music you put on CD. Personally I rarely listen to albums all the way through after the first few times anyway, preferring to pick and choose my own playlist of highlights - and for the purpose of that, having the largest amount of music available is the optimum for me because then I can pick what I like and what I don't, and don't feel as though I'm missing something.


    This. I like C&C because you yourself get to choose what you want to listen to. Also, I like the music as heard in the movie most of the times (not saying there aren't exceptions), album programs tend to leave out a lot of key cues. To me for instance the original Star Trek Nemesis album left out a lot of great moments, which is why I never got the album and listened to the score mostly from the near complete boot. Now that it's complete, I'll gladly buy it official.

    The Abyss to me is mostly unknown territory and I know Silvestri is known for cues with lots of underscore (a note of one minute ending in a loud burst, or just some atmospheric sounds and percussion), but as I know have the choice of the album and now the C&C, I'll gladly go for the latter as I want to determine for myself what works and what doesn't.

    In regards to the Varese batch, the last couple of batches I'd be lucky to have one title that interested me, now there are three (Nemesis, Abyss, Suspect) so I can't complain! It's going to be a Kamen Christmas punk
  6. Thor wrote
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Otherwise I agree with everything you just said except for this. All of the truly great scores have narrative flow and you can only get that by hearing it in the right order.


    In your opinion, let's stress that. It's not a fact, since we obviously disagree on what the 'right order' is.

    Indeed.

    To me, it's pretty clear-cut: as the score follows the film, I don't see the point of putting it out of order any more than I see the point of watching a film with the scenes out of order. Unless we're talking nonlinear narration, but even there - the narration is still in a certain order for a reason!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2013 edited
    And for me, an album is a very different medium than film, with its own set of (narrative) rules. Music on album is not the same as music in film, IMO -- even if both use the same music as raw material!

    But we've all been down this road many times before.

    What I find incredibly fascinating with this wacky pastime/artform/niche of ours is that we're all interested in the same items, but for very different reasons and with extremely different approaches to appreciation. I'm not sure there is anything else that can compare to that.
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  7. Quantity updates from LLLR's on their new batch:

    Great. LW is close to being out of stock until 2014. Gunfight is out of stock but more will be in Friday or Monday (the last batch of it)

    Superman is flying the highest, though with nearly 2000 units out the door.


    About half the run is gone.

    [refering to "Police Academy"]
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  8. "Brass Target": Fewer than 150 copies remain
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  9. New from Music Box Records:

    UPCOMING RELEASE. WE WILL START TAKING PRE-ORDERS IN JANUARY 2014.

    55 minutes of music, including over 40 minutes of previously unreleased music.
    12-page CD booklet with French and English by Florent Groult.

    Music Box Records pays tribute to the fruitful collaboration between French director-actor Dany Boon and composer Philippe Rombi (Merry Christmas, Swimming Pool, War of the Buttons) with three original motion picture soundtracks: La Maison du bonheur / The House of Happiness (2006), Rien à déclarer / Nothing to Declare (2010) and Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis / Welcome to the Land of Shtis (2008). We are pleased to present for the very first time on the same CD the complete scores of never-before-released La Maison du bonheur and Rien à déclarer with a selection of main cues of previously released Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis, adding a new version of the delightful piece for chimes.

    Philippe Rombi met Dany Boon for the first time behind the scenes during the promotion of Joyeux Noël. The two men hit it off immediately: “When we did La Maison du bonheur together, there was a kind of musical meeting of minds that was immediate. When I had Dany listen to my first ideas for the music, he put his faith in me,” the composer exclaimed. And listening to the three scores presented here, it isn’t difficult to understand why.

    If each score develops its own thematic ideas and melodic attributes (a lively main theme, cheerful and joyous for La Maison du bonheur; an amicable waltz, charming and full of life for Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis; a truculent piece, at times circumspect, at times brash for Rien à déclarer), allied with a continual refinement of the orchestration, they also reflect one another, especially in regard to certain common qualities that, it is to be imagined willingly, could only end in seducing a personality with such natural generosity as possessed by Dany Boon.

    And then there is at the heart of these musical pieces an unfailing tenderness, which Philippe Rombi instinctively discerned in the background. There is something reminiscent of the power which, in its own time, linked together the music of Georges Delerue and the images of Philippe de Broca. As much in its form as in its foundation, each score gives this delicious feeling of never neglecting or bypassing the simplest things.


    Rien à déclarer
    1. Générique début (2:49)
    2. Pré-générique (0:47)
    3. Ruben et Léo (0:58)
    4. Les trafiquants (1:46)
    5. Passages en force (1:58)
    6. Un bruit de Français (1:24)
    7. La 4L (0:55)
    8. Le choix de Louise (1:40)
    9. Le réveillon (1:05)
    10. Poursuite (2:03)
    11. Épilogue (1:19)
    12. Générique de fin (4:07)

    Time: 21:23

    La Maison du Bonheur
    13. Générique début (1:28)
    14. L'agence immobilière (0:54)
    15. C'est parti! (0:44)
    16. Première visite (2:01)
    17. La visite de Suzanne (1:12)
    18. Casino (1:25)
    19. Problème électrique (1:45)
    20. La bague (1:31)
    21. Rêve de maison (1:16)
    22. État des lieux (0:52)
    23. Petit déjeuner (1:45)
    24. Générique de fin (1:39)

    Time: 17:04

    Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis
    25. Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis (générique) (2:20)
    26. Mutation (1:50)
    27. Le carillon d'Antoine (nouvelle version) (2:19)
    28. La tournée (orchestral) (2:21)
    29. Valse des Ch'tis (2:05)
    30. Générique de fin (1:10)

    Time: 12:22

    Bonus Track
    31. Rien à déclarer (version concert) (4:52)

    Total Time: 55:45
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  10. Updates from Quartet on their last batch:

    We regret to inform you that we have received the CD of "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes" from the plant with a failure in the booklet, and we are in the process of repeating all the printing. These things happen, but we apologize.

    The CD should arrive within 48/72 hours and we will send all the orders immediately.

    Sorry for the incovenience.


    Posted two days ago:
    Update:
    The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes: SOLD OUT
    The Beastmaster: Less than 140 units
    FX2: Less than 100 units
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  11. Two new releases from BuySoundtrax:

    THREE DAYS (OF HAMLET) -
    FEATURING MUSIC COMPOSED BY JONATHAN BEARD



    http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/thdaofhaorso.html

    SRP: $15.95

    LISTEN TO A SOUND CLIP FROM the score for THREE DAYS (OF HAMLET)
    http://buysound.webjedi.net/Three_Days_ … t_Foul.mp3

    The first 100 copies will be autographed by composer JONATHAN BEARD.

    (December 11th, 2013, Los Angeles, CA) BUYSOUNDTRAX Records will be releasing THREE DAYS (OF HAMLET), featuring music composed by Jonathan Beard for the 2012 docudrama directed by and starring Alex Hyde-White, along with Tom Badal, Richard Chamberlain, Iva Hasperger, Stefanie Powers, Chuma Hunter-Gault, Peter Woodward, Joseph Culp, Jenna Brighton, Liane Curtis, Keith Ducklin, Brian Keith Gamble, David Mayhan, Sam Meader and Nicolas Porcelli.

    THREE DAYS (OF HAMLET) documents the events surrounding a troupe of actors and others as gather to rehearse and perform a stage reading of the famous play in only three days. Reality intrudes as they come together and strangers bond, as in war. Without a net, they galvanize during rehearsal while the lead actor and manager, both as himself and his character of Hamlet, grapples with the unexpected task of coming to terms with his powerful and famous father. A 'cliff notes' examination of one of the best plays ever written by the best cast they could find, including three famous sons of three very famous actors. As the lives of the players juxtapose over their characters, what results is a fascinating look at how, once again, art illuminates life. By holding the mirror up to ourselves, we illuminate the world around us. To score this unique film, Jonathan Beard produced an equally unique score, a fusion of subtle electronic sound design and analog synthesis, acoustic chamber orchestra, and English musical forms from Shakespeare’s time hybridized with modern scoring aesthetics.

    Jonathan Beard composes, arranges and conducts music for visual media, albums and the concert stage, and is based in Los Angeles. He received his BA in Music Composition from Stanford University, studying with Mark Applebaum and Brian Ferneyhough and earned his MA at UCLA studying with Roger Bourland, David Lefkowitz and Paul Chihara. Combining a unique aesthetic of symphonic depth, emotional nuance and quirky boutique electronics, his work can be heard across broadcast and cable television and in both short and feature films. His work has been commissioned and/or premiered by an eclectic group of ensembles and organizations, including the Pacific Symphony of Orange County, the Grammy-nominated St. Lawrence String Quartet, the YMF Debut Orchestra, Grammy winner Vince Mendoza, and the Los Angeles Master Chorale Chamber Singers, among others. Beyond composing, Jonathan has orchestrated and arranged music for films for studios such as Warner Brothers, Disney, and Sony, and TV shows on all major broadcast networks. His concert arrangements of music by other film composers have been heard live in Europe, Africa, and the Americas. Also highly committed to music education, Jonathan has taught electronic music composition and technology at UCLA, lectured on behalf of the Pacific Symphony and the Los Angeles Philharmonic and presented papers on film scoring and electronic music production at numerous conferences.

    BUYSOUNDTRAX Records presents THREE DAYS (OF HAMLET), featuring music composed by Jonathan Beard. The booklet includes liner notes by actor/director Alex Hyde-White and composer Jonathan Beard.

    THREE DAYS (OF HAMLET) is a limited edition release of 1000 units. THREE DAYS (OF HAMLET) will begin shipping on 2nd Week of Jan 2014 and can be ordered at www.buysoundtrax.com .


    1. Revenge Most Foul (2:18)
    2. All That Lives Must Die (1:33)
    3. First Player (4:49)
    4. Fie On It / Ophelia’s Chorale (1:44)
    5. Tis Not To Come (1:44)
    6. Good Night Sweet Prince (4:05)
    7. Mirror Up To Nature (1:04)
    8. Somewhere Guy (1:57)
    9. Ophelia’s Emotion (2:17)
    10. Castle / I Am Thy Father’s Spirit (1:03)
    11. Polonius Speaks (1:21)
    12. Like You This Play (2:02)
    13. Claudius Confesses (2:01)
    14. Polonius Slain (2:19)
    15. Claudius Snares Laertes (0:48)
    16. Elegy For Ophelia (0:59)
    17. End Credits (1:49)


    FIREFLY: MUSIC FOR SOLO PIANO -
    FEATURING MUSIC COMPOSED BY GREG EDMONSON


    http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/fimuforsopif.html

    SRP: $15.95

    LISTEN TO A SOUND CLIP FROM the score for FIREFLY: MUSIC FOR SOLO PIANO
    http://buysound.webjedi.net/Firefly_Aud … _Dance.mp3

    The first 100 copies will be autographed by composer GREG EDMONSON and ARTIST JOOHYUN PARK.

    BUYSOUNDTRAX Records will be releasing FIREFLY: MUSIC FOR SOLO PIANO, featuring music composed by Greg Edmonson for the cult classic television, produced and performed by pianist Joohyun Park. FIREFLY was a science fiction series produced by Joss Whedon for the Fox network in 2002 and was quickly cancelled by network executives who did not understand the show and were not interested in giving the show more time to find its audience. FIREFLY’s cast included Nathan Fillion, Gina Torres, Alan Tudyk, Morena Baccarin, Adam Baldwin, Jewel Staite, Sean Maher, Summer Glau and Ron Glass. While the show had a short life on television, fans immediately and intensely discovered the show when it came to home video and this passion kept the spirit of the show alive to such an extent that Universal produced a feature film version to continue the story in 2005.

    With this recording, classically trained pianist Joohyun Park has distilled Edmonson’s intricate acoustic textures and synthetic musculature into their expressive essence, performed delicately for solo piano. “FIREFLY was not piano-based,” notes Edmonson, “so translating all of the different kinds of instruments that we used into a piano score is a unique challenge. The translation to piano is a very tricky one, but if the feeling can be captured the listener might experience the same thing, emotionally. To me, the fun part about that is that it sometimes can remind you of something you saw that had meaning to you or was especially fun. I just love that.”

    Born in South Korea, Joohyun began studying music at the age of six at the prompting of her mother. Eventually she received both a Bachelor’s and a Master’s Degree of Piano from Yon Sei University in Seoul, studying with pianist Myoungwon Shin, before relocating to the United States, where she earned a Bachelor’s Degree in Contemporary Writing and Production from Boston’s famed Berklee College of Music. Joohyun's orchestrations and arrangements can be found in films such as PRIEST, DRAG ME TO HELL, CREATION, WHEN IN ROME, LOVE HAPPENS and many other films. Joohyun has recorded several solo piano interpretations of film music for BSX Records, including the 2012 release MUSIC FROM BATTLESTAR GALACTIA FOR SOLO PIANO. “I always start a project like this studying the piano arrangement and the original soundtrack recording,” Joohyun explained of her process in preparing for this kind of project. “Sometimes I follow my own interpretation and sometimes I perform it exactly the way it is. For FIREFLY, there were many beautiful solo guitar tracks that I wanted to mimic faithfully.

    In addition to the dozen piano interpretations of the FIREFLY score and its theme, composer/arranger Dominic Hauser has produced a vocal rendition of the title song, respectfully performed by singer Brian “Hacksaw” Williams (RACER X, DELTANAUT).

    BUYSOUNDTRAX Records presents FIREFLY: MUSIC FOR SOLO PIANO. The booklet includes liner notes by author Randall Larson, including recent insights from the composers on the creation of this project.

    FIREFLY: MUSIC FOR SOLO PIANO is a limited edition release of 1000 units. The first 100 copies will be signed by composer Greg Edmonson and pianist Joohyun Park. FIREFLY:

    MUSIC FOR SOLO PIANO will begin shipping on the Second week of Jan 2014 and can be ordered at www.buysoundtrax.com

    1. Firefly: Main Title (Vocal) (2:20)
    Produced and Arranged by Dominik Hauser
    Performed by Brian “Hacksaw” Williams
    2. Cows / New Dress / My Crew (2:29)
    3. Dying Ship / Naked Mal (2:16)
    4. The Funeral (2:31)
    5. Inara’s Suite (3:35)
    6. Inside the Tam House (2:42)
    7. Leaving (2:57)
    8. Out of Gas / Empty Derelict (1:47)
    9. River Tricks Early (3:42)
    10. River’s Dance (1:27)
    11. River’s Perception / Saffron (1:32)
    12. Tears / River’s Eyes (2:08)
    13. Firefly: Main Title (Piano) (1:10)
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  12. Teases from Kritzerland as to what 2014 will bring:

    Much from Fox, including what will be a rather spectacular first release for 2014, more from Paramount, including what we hope will be at least four separate volumes of Victor Young scores, and a few more things from MGM/UA, and it looks like we may just have our foot in the door somewhere new and if that comes to pass then the first release from there will be one of my personal Holy Grails - we'd probably lose money on it, but with this title I just don't care. smile
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  13. Being announced Monday morning from Kritzerland, their final release of the year:

    "The Buccaneer" (Bernstein)

    Nearly 77 minutes, that includes some source music and piano demos by Bernstein.
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  14. Update today from Music Box Records on "American Friends":

    LESS THAN 150 COPIES REMAINING




    And coming from Howlin' Wolf Records sometime next year:
    "Shock Waves" (Richard Einhorn)

    The masters have apparently been found.
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  15. justin boggan wrote
    Being announced Monday morning from Kritzerland, their final release of the year:

    "The Buccaneer" (Bernstein)

    Nearly 77 minutes, that includes some source music and piano demos by Bernstein.


    Fewer than 150 left. Going fast...
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  16. "The Beastmaster" is SOLD OUT at Quartet.
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  17. One copy should arrive here tomorrow, along with the rest of the batch.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  18. MV, speaking on some scores earlier this month at the FSM forum...

    If anyone has a chance with Star Wars its Intrada.

    As for the rest, LOTR is pretty much taken care of. Bond is still up in the air (a matter I hope we can resolve in the near fture..at least on SOME titles). Potter is so close I can taste it. smile


    Looks like the situation of the Potter scores not being possible, has changed.

    Somebody pointed out the first film would need 3CD's, to which MV replied:
    Agreed...not that I have given it any thought.
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2013
    Expanded releases for Harry Potter? dizzy
    Kazoo
  19. I'm not sure I really would be that interested. The three Williams scores maybe. But even with them I'm not sure.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.