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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    Steven wrote
    So much crap is hurled at Zimmer from the armchairs of geeks and miserable wankers, but he seems like such a nice guy?! Ah, people annoy me. rolleyes wink


    beer

    I like Nolan, i like how he explains everything the DARK KNIGHT bashers need to listen in order to shut the fudge up hehe. Same goes for Zimmer but that goes always i guess, nothing new here. He IS a cool guy and knows his stuff pretty good. Look at the last segment where Zimmer works in his studio.

    I wonder what those who accuse Zimmer's manners have to say about Harry Gregson Williams, for one biggrin


    If only talent was related to how nice you are then John Ottman would be the best film composer of all time, and Zimmer would be right up there with the greats as well (and the likes of Herrmann and Goldsmith would be right at the bottom of the pile). Sadly it isn't, so they aren't...
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Brian Tyler, too. He seems like a very down to earth guy.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    James, where did i mention "talent" ? I said he knows he stuff pretty good, something that is completely evident both in his music but also in these interviews, docus, videos, testimonies of people who have worked with him, the project he gets assigned to. What he does, he does it pretty good. Now, as far as talent goes, modern views about music and psychology are actually dismissing the existence of such a thing, in its traditional form. Every human being is a musical being once born, and it further depends on the education, cultural background, growing-up environment and opportunities (and so on) whether they're going to cultivate that predisposition or not.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    James, where did i mention "talent" ?


    Well, you were replying to a quote from Steven in which he seemed to say that people shouldn't criticise Zimmer, since he's such a nice guy.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    I hate to play Devil's advocate here, but James did say "If only...", not necessarily implying that you were saying 'niceness' is in indicative to a person's musical talent. wink
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009 edited
    Southall wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    James, where did i mention "talent" ?


    Well, you were replying to a quote from Steven in which he seemed to say that people shouldn't criticise Zimmer, since he's such a nice guy.


    Actually that's not what I said. I was merely stating my disdain for personal attacks against Zimmer the man, as all too often they can become unnecessarily personal. People can criticize his music all they like, that doesn't bother me.

    That's the last time I defend one of your comments as you seem to have something against me.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Man I can´t believe we (you) are discussing this again. Is like going back to the past everytime Zimmer does something: when he does good, when he does bad, when he takes a nap, when he goes for a walk.....boring sleep
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Hey hey, chill everyone. I find it very difficult to believe that anyone is actually having anything against someone else, here in mt, at least from the usual gang of members. Zimmer, however, always manages to spark the most heated discussions wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    So much crap is hurled at Zimmer from the armchairs of geeks and miserable wankers, but he seems like such a nice guy?! Ah, people annoy me. rolleyes wink


    So's Cliff Richard but I'll still happily throw rotten cabbages at him. biggrin


    I reckon Cliff's gay!? What do you think?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    Zimmer, however, always manages to spark the most heated discussions wink


    Actually, he is the only that manages to spark the most hated discussions. And I honestly can´t understand why, and why the history repeats itself everytime.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009 edited
    It's the red pants' fault.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Marselus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Zimmer, however, always manages to spark the most heated discussions wink


    Actually, he is the only that manages to spark the most hated discussions. And I honestly can´t understand why, and why the history repeats itself everytime.


    It's not so evident on this forum I don't think, I suppose you'd have to visit FSM or Clemmenson's site for more of that 'personal attacking' which I decry. Far from me to argue back of course, I mean, what's the point? I'm not the one with the problem! dizzy

    Modern film music in general can spark a lot of, um, debate...
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    'Cause it's admittedly problematic, in places. Modern film music that is, not Zimmer.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Steven wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Zimmer, however, always manages to spark the most heated discussions wink


    Actually, he is the only that manages to spark the most hated discussions. And I honestly can´t understand why, and why the history repeats itself everytime.


    It's not so evident on this forum I don't think, I suppose you'd have to visit FSM or Clemmenson's site for more of that 'personal attacking' which I decry. Far from me to argue back of course, I mean, what's the point? I'm not the one with the problem! dizzy

    Modern film music in general can spark a lot of, um, debate...


    For some time now Zimmer is barely discussed at FSM ( or I haven't noticed the threads ).

    Leaving my poor taste "jokes" aside I've always found Zimmer the man very likeable and upfront honest, musically the majority of his output leaves me stone cold but there is no doubt he's had moments of brilliance; I always keep an open ear to any of his new scores but mostly I'm disappointed.

    Just MY taste and MY opinion smile
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Of course. I LOVE Zimmer, but if I had a problem with your opinion.... what's that saying about me?

    (Much like I'm too keen on Morricone, yet you still manage to put up with me. biggrin )
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009 edited
    Steven wrote
    Of course. I LOVE Zimmer, but if I had a problem with your opinion.... what's that saying about me?

    (Much like I'm too keen on Morricone, yet you still manage to put up with me. biggrin )


    I've ALWAYS got time for ANYONE who's "too keen" on Morricone! biggrin beer

    wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    I hate Hans Zimmer because he stole my money by producing thousands of horrible albums I have to buy! Thus he's a bad composer! crazy


    wink


    Actually, one of the reasons why I registered on MT (not FSM nor Filmtracks) is, that I don't need to add "I'm not a big fan of Zimmer, but" when I praise any of his works. tongue
    Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    Of course. I LOVE Zimmer, but if I had a problem with your opinion.... what's that saying about me?

    (Much like I'm too keen on Morricone, yet you still manage to put up with me. biggrin )


    I've ALWAYS got time for ANYONE who's "too keen" on Morricone! biggrin beer

    wink


    Curse those Freudian slips. Curse them.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Steven wrote
    Southall wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    James, where did i mention "talent" ?


    Well, you were replying to a quote from Steven in which he seemed to say that people shouldn't criticise Zimmer, since he's such a nice guy.


    Actually that's not what I said. I was merely stating my disdain for personal attacks against Zimmer the man, as all too often they can become unnecessarily personal. People can criticize his music all they like, that doesn't bother me.

    That's the last time I defend one of your comments as you seem to have something against me.


    Ah, that's OK then. I didn't realise you were talking about personal attacks only. I think Justin's the only person who really does that around here.

    The only thing I hold against you is your unnatural love for Stephen Sommers.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
    Well, he is a legend.
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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2009
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Miya wrote
    Southall wrote
    Interesting, but if the whole thing is as far removed from the truth as this...

    The facility began 10 years ago when fellow composer Mark Mancina suggested the two share some space. “I wanted to build one room for me, and Mark, who's a friend, said, ‘Wouldn't it be nice if we could share space or something?’ It made it cheaper, but, at the same time, it seemed like a nice idea to have a sort of collaborative facility.”


    ...then perhaps not all that insightful.


    hmm? I think there's no lie...

    Mancina and Zimmer built a shared studio (obviously more than 10 years ago. It's just the reporter's mistake), and then Zimmer wanted to expand the idea of sharing space with other composers/musicians, so he founded a company called Mediavenures with Jay Rifkin.

    And in 2003 he left Rifkin to start RC, so Rifkin sued him and Zimmer sued back...?

    That's what I understand about the history of MV/RC so far. dizzy


    Media Ventures as a COMPANY was founded in 1989 during the scoring of Rain Man, because only that way Zimmer could have worked with Rifkin on that movie. The rest can be true,.


    I didn't know that. I've also heard RC as a company already existed long before the lawsuit stuff... dizzy Maybe I should ask guys at H-Z.com who know a lot about this kind of things. Is Hybrid Soldier still around here?
    Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2009
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      CommentAuthorThomas
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2009
    Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard interview @ KCRW

    -> http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/mb/m … r_and_jame
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2009
    Thomas wrote
    Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard interview @ KCRW

    -> http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/mb/m … r_and_jame


    Good interview.
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2009
    Thomas wrote
    Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard interview @ KCRW

    -> http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/mb/m … r_and_jame


    Thanks! Nice one beer
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2009
    Yeah, nice interview, except that I wish they would let the two composers be more of a guest DJ and tone down the bits on the DARK KNIGHT collaboration, which we've heard so much about before. Elfman's gig on "Morning Becomes Eclectic" about 10 years ago was much better, because the show was ALL about his eclectic mix of personal favs.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2009 edited
    Here's another KCRW interview... from 11 years ago.

    James L. Brooks, Hans Zimmer - Morning Becomes Eclectic
    http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/mb/m … ooks_hans_

    This was my first time I heard "Video Killed Radio Star" fully... weird song dizzy

    The first half is mostly Hans talking about his early career, the latter part is about I'll Do Anything, Jim Brooks' career, Simpsons songs, and As Good As It Gets (they played Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life at the end of the show biggrin ).

    I hope I could understand their talking more because I really like Jim Brooks movies (except I'll Do Anything I haven't seen yet).... but his way of talking is too fast to catch up for me! dizzy I need to listen again.
    Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2009
    Interesting. Thanks! smile
    • CommentAuthorPanthera
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2009
    Apparently a version of the Kung Fu Panda DVD has a 25 minute short film called Secrets of the Furious Five. Wikipedia says Hans Zimmer and John Powell composed the music for this.

    Does anyone know if that is correct? I haven't seen it.
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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2009
    I haven't seen it, but the score is by Zimmer, Powell, and Henry Jackman, according to Annie Awards. They won. punk

    http://www.maintitles.net/forum/discuss … ds/#Item_6
    Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp