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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2010 edited
    I'm not saying The Prestige is limited. I'm just saying I've got a feeling he hasn't a lot more tricks in his sleeves than what we've seen him do up until now. And true, his blockbusters ask for atypical music, but still in a big way. I'm satisfied with Zimmer for those. And, in a way, Zimmer has been in keeping with a certain part of Julyan's mood.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2010 edited
    I am too; i don't wish that we didn't get those, in any case. What i am saying is that it'd be very interesting if he ALSO kept Julyan as well, for a project or two here and there.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2010
    Ah, yes, agreed. The moment he goes all suspensey again, I'll welcome Julyan back smile
  1. I'm glad to see all the praise for The Prestige. I love that film. It is even more brilliant in my eyes when you compare it to the book. I think it improved on the book considerably (which was a more literary version of the same story - okay that sounded really dumb, but you all understand the difference between literary fiction and commercial fiction, right? The book was more literary, the story from the film was more commercial. Does that make sense to anyone?). confused
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2010
    Well... I see your point, but it doesn't make sense? It makes the book sound better? And I don't really see The Prestige as a commercial film. It's got literary qualities as well.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2010 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    THE PRESTIGE didn't have limited music at all, especially in ambient structures since it was all......ambient! He just writes differently than Zimmer, that is.


    Julyan's version of Zimmer's Journey to the Line
    (The Descent: Part 2 clip)

    That said, the score is really good, as was the first one.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2010
    The link's not working for me. Which cue of the descent 2 score you're referring to?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2010 edited
    The last one, The Descent: Part 2.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorThomas
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
    Loved the movie posted better but this is good too.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
    Which one? Because this one is basically one of the movie posters in a square form. I'm glad they chose this one, btw, as it's my favorite of the posters smile.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
    this one

    http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/ … oster2.jpg
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    Ah, jep, that would've been a better choice. I often prefer the most subtle teaser poster, the less actors the better. But the used one is nice, still...
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    For anyone interested in THE THIN RED LINE, it'll be good news that soon, The Criterion Collection will be releasing a re-issue of the DVD of the film, along a brand new BluRay version. Apart from newly restored picture and sound, the special features will be as followed:

    - New, restored high-definition digital transfer, approved by director Terrence Malick and cinematographer John Toll (with DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition)
    - New audio commentary featuring Toll, production designer Jack Fisk, and producer Grant Hill
    - Outtakes from the film
    - Video interviews with several of the film’s actors, including Kirk Acevedo, Jim Caviezel, Ben Chaplin, Tom Jane, Elias Koteas, Dash Mihok, and Sean Penn
    - New video interview with casting director Dianne Crittenden, featuring original audition footage
    - New interview with composer Hans Zimmer
    - New video piece featuring interviews with editors Billy Weber, Leslie Jones, and Saar Klein
    - An interview with writer James Jones’s daughter Kaylie Jones
    - World War II newsreels featuring footage from Guadalcanal and the Solomon Islands
    - Original theatrical trailer

    PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by film critic David Sterritt and a 1963 essay by James Jones on war films

    As it's Criterion, I'm sure this will not be just a random interview for EPK purposes, I'm expecting a meaty conversation. The downside is, however, that Criterion region locks all their releases... so now I'll have to find a way to get a region free BluRay player... rolleyes
    • CommentAuthorBasilB
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    On the official "Inception" home page you can listen to quite a lengthy track from Hans Zimmers score:
    http://inceptionmovie.warnerbros.com/

    Enjoy!
  2. Are you sure it's a Zimmer piece though?
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  3. BobdH wrote
    For anyone interested in THE THIN RED LINE, it'll be good news that soon, The Criterion Collection will be releasing a re-issue of the DVD of the film, along a brand new BluRay version. Apart from newly restored picture and sound, the special features will be as followed:

    - New, restored high-definition digital transfer, approved by director Terrence Malick and cinematographer John Toll (with DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition)
    - New audio commentary featuring Toll, production designer Jack Fisk, and producer Grant Hill
    - Outtakes from the film
    - Video interviews with several of the film’s actors, including Kirk Acevedo, Jim Caviezel, Ben Chaplin, Tom Jane, Elias Koteas, Dash Mihok, and Sean Penn
    - New video interview with casting director Dianne Crittenden, featuring original audition footage
    - New interview with composer Hans Zimmer
    - New video piece featuring interviews with editors Billy Weber, Leslie Jones, and Saar Klein
    - An interview with writer James Jones’s daughter Kaylie Jones
    - World War II newsreels featuring footage from Guadalcanal and the Solomon Islands
    - Original theatrical trailer

    PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by film critic David Sterritt and a 1963 essay by James Jones on war films

    As it's Criterion, I'm sure this will not be just a random interview for EPK purposes, I'm expecting a meaty conversation. The downside is, however, that Criterion region locks all their releases... so now I'll have to find a way to get a region free BluRay player... rolleyes


    I'd get it, but it's a Criterion release, so it won't be available here in Poland, but shit, that interview and anything TTRL related would be amazing...
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010 edited
    I'll probably get a new BluRay player for this. Man, this got me browsing through Criterion's catalogue, and there's so many movies I'd love to see, and their releases look so awesome...

    Here's the TRL cover, by the way (it's most likely the blue BR banner won't be on the finished product, as they only include it on their press releases to show it's BR but drop it on the BR itself):

    http://criterioncast.com/wp-content/upl … .21-AM.png
  4. Beautiful.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    You don't need a blu-ray player. Rips will appear in the usual places the same day of the release. I loved TTRL but getting a new blu-ray player just for this is a bit far-stretched imo, also what kind of tv do you have? If you don't have a widescreen (16:9 at least) lcd screen that supports full hd 1080 and has an hdmi connector, then the blu-ray will be useless.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorBasilB
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Are you sure it's a Zimmer piece though?


    Well, for me this does sound pretty Zimmer'ish, doesn't it.
    Beside here is an article about the coming score where Zimmer mentions the guitar and electronic work...

    http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/05 … immer.html
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    Christodoulides wrote
    You don't need a blu-ray player. Rips will appear in the usual places the same day of the release. I loved TTRL but getting a new blu-ray player just for this is a bit far-stretched imo, also what kind of tv do you have? If you don't have a widescreen (16:9 at least) lcd screen that supports full hd 1080 and has an hdmi connector, then the blu-ray will be useless.


    Or a DVI connector.
    Or 720p...the difference between 720p and 1080p is not visible to the human eye in most typical home setups. And even if that statement is questionable, 720p blu-ray is certainly a HUGE improvement over 400p DVD.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    There is a difference between 720p and 1080i, although the progressive scanning of the first is better than the interlaced of the latter, but especially on large screens there is difference.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    I am just saying blu-ray is still worth something even if you only have a 720p display. wink
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    [...] what kind of tv do you have? If you don't have a widescreen (16:9 at least) lcd screen that supports full hd 1080 and has an hdmi connector, then the blu-ray will be useless.


    Well...

    http://www.consumer.philips.com/c/cinem … cat/nl/nl/

    Let's just say I will see the difference between BluRay and DVD wink. Also, there's a very notable difference between the DVD version of DTS, and the BluRay DTS HD Master Audio.

    And as I've stated, I wouldn't buy an extra BR player just for The Thin Red Line. I'm increasingly getting annoyed there are films released in the states that won't reach The Netherlands in BluRay form (Criterion just being the most notable example). And I've got great versions of Apocalypse Now and Days of Heaven on Region 1 DVD that I cannot watch now I'm living on my own and with my new, region locked BluRay player.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
    Damn that's huge. OWNED.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2010
    BasilB wrote
    On the official "Inception" home page you can listen to quite a lengthy track from Hans Zimmers score:
    http://inceptionmovie.warnerbros.com/

    Enjoy!


    BasilB wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Are you sure it's a Zimmer piece though?


    Well, for me this does sound pretty Zimmer'ish, doesn't it.
    Beside here is an article about the coming score where Zimmer mentions the guitar and electronic work...

    http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/05 … immer.html


    Thanks for the info. It's a good track, with some John Murphy-esque guitar stuff there. Looking forward to the score so much more now.
    • CommentAuthorBasilB
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2010
    Hans Zimmer about "Inception":

    Collaborating with Nolan for the third time, composer Hans Zimmer used music
    to get to the heart of “Inception.” Zimmer emphasizes, “My focus was constantly on the
    emotional world of the story because, even when all is said and done about the
    astounding visuals, I think that is one of the great strengths of the film.”
    Nolan states, “I always want Hans to be inspired by the picture, but I also like to
    hear where his imagination would go in interpreting the ideas of the script. Based on
    that, we start finding interesting points of synchronization between the movie and the
    music.”
    Zimmer says that his first conversations with the director were about the
    arrangements and the orchestrations. “We talked about wanting big waves of sound,
    which would require more brass than strings, so I put together a huge brass section. We
    recorded them separately because there was no way that strings would have survived
    the onslaught,” he smiles.
    One of the string instruments that Zimmer did spotlight was the guitar, played by
    legendary musician Johnny Marr, the guitarist for the seminal band The Smiths. Zimmer
    acknowledges, “The idea of incorporating a guitar in the score can be a little tricky
    because guitar and orchestra don’t always gel. But I kept thinking of Johnny Marr, who
    has influenced a whole generation of guitarists. The great thing was that as soon as
    Johnny played the first few notes, it was exactly how I’d imagined it…only better. And
    that’s what you expect from a great artist.”
    Another great artist who is heard in “Inception” is singer Edith Piaf, whose voice
    “serves a function beyond the score,” Zimmer says. “I love that Chris wrote Edith Piaf
    into the script because there is a timeless romantic quality to her voice.”
    Nolan remarks, “One of the decisions I had to make early on was regarding our
    use of the Edith Piaf song. Due to the nature of its place in the story, should it be
    handled by the sound department or Hans? I decided to give it to Hans because the
    song was going to have to weave into the score at some point, and he is a genius at
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    blending music and sound together—figuring out the balance between instruments and
    synthesizers and voices and sound effects. It’s very exciting.”
    “The aim is for there to be a complete sonic world for the movie,” Zimmer adds.
    “The instruments should bleed into the sound effects and the sound effects should bleed
    into the music.”
    “There are scenes in the film where the score and the sound design are literally
    indistinguishable,” Nolan affirms. “What you wind up with is something that connects the
    different layers of reality the movie presents between waking and dreaming.”
    Emma Thomas reflects, “Working on this film has made me think very differently
    about dreams and it’s definitely made me wonder about what I’m dreaming and how it
    ties into my life.”
    Nolan concludes, “Once you start examining what the dream experience might
    mean, it invites people to think about their own dreams and what they reveal. It raises
    interesting questions about how we assess the nature of our own reality.”
    # # #


    source: http://inceptionmovie.warnerbros.com/pd … s_6-18.pdf
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2010
    BasilB wrote
    Hans Zimmer about "Inception":

    which would require more brass than strings, so I put together a huge brass section. We
    recorded them separately because there was no way that strings would have survived
    the onslaught,” he smiles.

    punk

    BasilB wrote
    “There are scenes in the film where the score and the sound design are literally
    indistinguishable,” Nolan affirms.

    freezing
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2010
    Yeah.
    “The aim is for there to be a complete sonic world for the movie,” Zimmer adds.
    “The instruments should bleed into the sound effects and the sound effects should bleed
    into the music.”

    slant

    "sonic world".
    Read: "loads of wall-to-wall noise, becasue either silence OR lyricism is scary." slant

    I like Nolan as a director.
    His views on how sound should work in films I'm less keen on.
    (I'm not saying it's not valid. Actually I think it is and quite an interesting one at that.
    It's just completely against anything I think film music should be and do.)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn