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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2009


    Jesus f*cking Christ.
    That's as close to a premature burial as you can get.
    What a terrible nightmare... I'm amazed his brain didn't just shut off after a while.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009
    I'm somewhat caught up on my reviews
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009
    Martijn wrote


    Jesus f*cking Christ.
    That's as close to a premature burial as you can get.
    What a terrible nightmare... I'm amazed his brain didn't just shut off after a while.

    I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that. A true nightmare.
    Also, I can imagine your heart shutting down because of pain, despair and stress, but I guess his heart function was being controlled or something? Anyway, I can't even think of what it must have been like...
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009
    Truly nightmarish and unimaginable. Poor man.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009 edited
    Bregje wrote
    Martijn wrote


    Jesus f*cking Christ.
    That's as close to a premature burial as you can get.
    What a terrible nightmare... I'm amazed his brain didn't just shut off after a while.

    I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that. A true nightmare.
    Also, I can imagine your heart shutting down because of pain, despair and stress, but I guess his heart function was being controlled or something? Anyway, I can't even think of what it must have been like...


    Before you draw any conclusion make sure you read James Randi's comment on this-

    Randi's site is slow so here's a mirror http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comme … lyzed_but/

    James Randi said

    I'm enraged. Several perceptive persons have sent me to msnbc.com - where we can see Dr. Nancy Snyderman relating a story. It's a heartrender, described thus by Dr. Snyderman: A mother [in Belgium] says her son has emerged from what doctors thought was a vegetative state to say he was fully conscious for 23 years but could not respond because he was paralyzed.

    No, that is not what the man said, Dr. Snyderman. That's what an incompetent layperson typed for him! I ask you to first go to http://tinyurl.com/y8lku48, and note the section of the video from 12 to 35 seconds, then come back here.

    This is yet another obvious example of abysmal, practiced, purposeful ignorance by medical personnel - including Dr. Snyderman and her staff who prepared this piece. I cannot understand how anyone, professional medical person or layman, can continue to believe that the farce known as "Facilitated Communication" [FC] represents anything other than a fantasy that was begun back in 1977, when an Australian woman named Rosemary Crossley came up with the idea that autistic persons could express their thoughts via a keyboard when their hand was "supported" by what she called a "facilitator." In 1989, Douglas Biklen, a sociologist and professor of special education at Syracuse University, eagerly took up her cause, and as a result vast sums were donated to SU by friends and family members of autism victims - money that was simply wasted in futile "research."

    I personally investigated this matter. In March of 1992 I was contacted by Dr. Anne M. Donnellan, of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who asked if I would be willing to participate in an investigation of FC as used with autistic children. I was already familiar with FC, and suggested to her that I felt the researchers were perhaps under the influence of the Clever Hans Effect [CHE], also known as the "ideomotor effect," in which the trainer - the facilitator in this case - was unconsciously transmitting the information to the autistic child. This possibility was emphatically denied by Dr. Donnellan, and I was assured that every care had been taken to ensure that the CHE was not in operation. The Clever Hans Effect is notorious in psychology. Early in the last century, a horse named Clever Hans - in German, der Kluge Hans - was claimed to have been able to perform arithmetic and other simple intellectual tasks. In 1907, psychologist Oskar Pfungst showed conclusively that the horse was not actually performing these mental tasks, but was reacting to cues provided by his trainer.

    My tests of autistic children at the University of Wisconsin-Madison clearly showed that FC was simply a tragic farce. My findings were totally ignored. The full account of this matter will be discussed in detail in my next book, A Magician in the Laboratory.

    The "facilitated communication" process consists of the "facilitator" actually holding the hand of the subject over the keyboard, moving the hand to the key, then drawing the hand back from the keyboard! This very intimate participatory action lends itself very easily to transferring the intended information to the computer screen. In the video you have just viewed, it is very evident that (a) the "facilitator" is looking directly at the keyboard and the screen, and (b) is moving the subject's hand. The video editing is also biased, giving angles that line up the head of the subject with the screen, as if the subject were watching the screen.

    This man in the msnbc.com piece is not seeing the screen. He is not aware of what is going on. He is an unknowing victim of these charlatans. A simple test - such as that done on October 19th, 1993, in a Frontline (PBS) documentary highlighting these concerns, "Prisoners of Silence," would prove that FC is a total fraud. This powerful and comprehensive program proved that FC was a delusion.

    Dr. Snyderman, how did this get by you? The evidence is right there on the screen! Others have solved this fraud. The Association for Behavior Analysis International (ABAI), the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and the American Association on Mental Retardation, have no doubts about this. ABAI calls FC a "discredited technique" and warns that "its use is unwarranted and unethical." The Association for Science in Autism Treatment reviewed the research and position statements and concluded that the messages typed were controlled by the facilitator, not by the individual with autism, and that FC did not improve language skills.

    We critics of FC question why people can apparently give speeches in public - via a keyboard and a "facilitator" - and go to college - similarly "assisted" - yet they cannot answer a series of simple questions under controlled conditions! Psychologist Daniel Wegner, professor of psychology at Harvard University and a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science has stated that facilitated communication is a striking example of the ideomotor effect, and tests of FC show that it is a complete fraud, farce, and delusion!

    Please, Dr. Snyderman, may we hear from you, in light of what appears here?
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009
    Interesting twist.
    It would explain my initial question: how on earth did he remain sane?

    But, as highly as I regard Randi, I'm not convinced he's right.
    The film in question certainly raises some good questions (why is that person typing???), but to render a diagnosis through a video seems questionable to me.

    Surely though just a few tests under controlled circumstances should definitively prove whether or not Houben is properly conscious? I don't even understand the hullaballoo.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009
    Well, if they take tests with him alone in a room without anyone assisting him, i'm sure we'll know if he types the keyboard himself or not.

    However, something caught my attention...



    "The Clever Hans Effect "













    hmmmmmm.........
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009
    Martijn wrote
    But, as highly as I regard Randi, I'm not convinced he's right.
    The film in question certainly raises some good questions (why is that person typing???), but to render a diagnosis through a video seems questionable to me.


    Sure, we need more evidence to figure out what to make of this. But from that video the typing looked too fast for someone who isn't even looking at the keyboard properly. Don't know.
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    Well, if they take tests with him alone in a room without anyone assisting him, i'm sure we'll know if he types the keyboard himself or not.

    However, something caught my attention...


    "The Clever Hans Effect "




    Now that you raise the point... there's an interesting parallel there with RCP/MV. biggrin
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009 edited
    fireworks champagne cocktail bhangra bounce 8000th post party! bounce bhangra cocktail champagne fireworks
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2009 edited
    Oh well, any excuse for a party rolleyes


    PAAAAAAAARRRRRRTY! punk bounce beer bhangra beer bounce punk
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  1. What made my day better...

    Yesterday did, lol. I finished 25 years and an analysis of the last year of my life showed that I guess I made up for 5-6 years of my life in one. How? I got some important AND positive feedback, generally speaking. The major examples are:

    1. My scholarship was renewed this year, I am still getting money from the uni as a Ph. D. student.

    2. Had my first classes, which got very positive reviews from my students. I was called "nice, interesting, making people not afraid to talk". I had two very nice and positive groups, rather intelligent too (which is great if you look at the general intellectual decline of youth of our times, that partly based on the levels of questions on the final high school exams). Also, their tests went very well - only two people failed out of about 60.

    3. I started a vlog, which may be somehow meaningless, but that means not only many viewers (my first vid still has over 130 people and the second one got nice ratings AND comments), but also the fact that, looking at my filmmaking dreams - I finally took a camera and did ANYTHING with it.

    4. My best friend, who, by the way, recommended me the form of a video blog, was very enthusiastic about the success of my first video and very happy and said that it's the first time she felt that way about anyone and she says that I am the only person she seems to be so warm to (and seems to rather enjoy it). Basically she says (that with all her issues, which I don't want to discuss here) that of all the people in the world, I am the one she gives her very best to (seems her boyfriend doesn't get that lol).

    5. And the last but not least... I got loads of very warm wishes from my friends on Facebook, many them working Hollywood composers (like Sharon Farber, a very nice person too, the composer of When Nietzsche Wept released by Mikael's label, she actually told me she'd be looking forward to working with me! ), journalists (Daniel Schweiger and Nick Redman!)... That's flattering!

    Anyway everything seems THAT good and hopefully I will be off my antidepressants soon!
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorkeky
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    Congratulations Pawel! beer It's good to see when things are going well.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    Big congratulations Pawel, I think I speak for all of us when I say we're all rooting for you. beer
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Big congratulations Pawel, I think I speak for all of us when I say we're all rooting for you. beer


    Same for me too
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    Go Pawel! smile
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    See here!
  2. nice Pawel, keep up the positive fight beer
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    Pawel, nice to see a positive outcome as such! Keep us posted and informed! Wishing you all the best for the near future, hard work always pays back! Congrats mate!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorStavroula
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    Congrats Pawel! Stay positive and keep up the good work! kiss
    Whatever you gaze rests on,do not use your vision, but the eyes of your soul...She knows better...
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    Congrats Pawel! Forge ahead!
    bhangra
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2009
    Fisn n' chips! lick
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2009
    Had a nice Thanksgiving today!!!
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009
    I completed a "Counter-Terrorist Financing" course today at work. I felt JUST like Jack Bauer as I learned about preventing the unauthorised transmission of personal data outside the European Economic Area.
  3. Southall wrote
    I completed a "Counter-Terrorist Financing" course today at work. I felt JUST like Jack Bauer as I learned about preventing the unauthorised transmission of personal data outside the European Economic Area.

    Is Wales "outside the EEA"?

    I'm just worried I won't be getting any more PMs from you, James.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009
    Southall wrote
    I completed a "Counter-Terrorist Financing" course today at work. I felt JUST like Jack Bauer as I learned about preventing the unauthorised transmission of personal data outside the European Economic Area.


    Hmm and he is a top poster?????
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009
    I love this guy.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ … Munch.html

    I'm going to change my name to the all-time greatest crisps - Seasonal Sensations Honey Roast Ham. They only made them one year though. crazy
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited
    'Mr Munch...or Monster to his pals' biggrin ROTFLMAOBSSTT
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009
    InterRail tickets ordered. Finally! cool
    Kazoo
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2009
    Southall wrote
    I love this guy.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ … Munch.html

    I'm going to change my name to the all-time greatest crisps - Seasonal Sensations Honey Roast Ham. They only made them one year though. crazy


    Not as crazy as the Asian guy who renamed himself to Optimus Prime.