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MICHAEL GIACCHINO
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- CommentTimeNov 17th 2008 edited
franz_conrad wrote
Christopher Gordon
Sorry, I completely zoned out there for a minute. -
- CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
franz_conrad wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
Yes, also we must not forget that the COMPOSER is really defining the performance, not the conductor, so GIacchino on the stand or not, defines the interpretation of music himself. The conductor deals with the technicalities.
The way Christopher Gordon tells it, you do have a lot less control over exact issues of performance and synchronisation when you're in the booth.
Interesting because from my experience of witnessing Giacchino and Simonec working they are both very happy with how it all works out. Michael is able to pick up just as many performance issues in the booth as he would in the studio. Plus, with Simonec as his main orchestrator and the far more experienced conductor he also will be able to pick things up on the podium more so than Giachino would. That's just a guess... and uneducated one... but again from the way I see them work it's a well oiled machine and both are happy with the set up.
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- CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
I get the impression that different composers just like different things. If you listen to Morricone, then someone who composes at a piano rather than on pencil and paper can't be considered a composer at all, and then you've got people at the other end of the scale who just play one-fingered into a keyboard and get dozens of people to orchestrate that tune into a full-blown score. There seem to be similar arguments over conducting. I guess it's whatever makes the individual most comfortable. It's interesting how many film composers there are who are comfortable with and capable of conducting, but just choose not to. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
Plus the conductor is going to have a massive influence of the performance. For example, I think an orchestra is going to be much more pumped if WIlliams is conducting rather than somebody else...
...then again, I'm sure experienced conductors (Pete Anthony) are just as good actually. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
Yes, all really depends on the set up. I know that Zimmer for example tends to call each of the players PERSONALLY to talk with them about the details and he's capable of following the score with the performance.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
Anthony wrote
Plus the conductor is going to have a massive influence of the performance. For example, I think an orchestra is going to be much more pumped if WIlliams is conducting rather than somebody else...
...then again, I'm sure experienced conductors (Pete Anthony) are just as good actually.
It's interesting what you say. I've seen Williams conduct concerts on many occasions and on a technical level he's an awful conductor - yet the performances were all flawless. I guess there's just more to it than just waving the stick. -
- CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
Anthony wrote
Plus the conductor is going to have a massive influence of the performance.
Again, from my experience, musicians get more excited about performing GOOD music no matter what genre or conductor.
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- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Anthony wrote
Marselus wrote
Aha. I didn´t know he had ever conducted, hence the question. Then do you know why doesn´t he conduct his own scores?
Because Simonec is better at it?
Simonec is a metronome.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
franz_conrad wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
Yes, also we must not forget that the COMPOSER is really defining the performance, not the conductor, so GIacchino on the stand or not, defines the interpretation of music himself. The conductor deals with the technicalities.
The way Christopher Gordon tells it, you do have a lot less control over exact issues of performance and synchronisation when you're in the booth.
Interesting because from my experience of witnessing Giacchino and Simonec working they are both very happy with how it all works out. Michael is able to pick up just as many performance issues in the booth as he would in the studio. Plus, with Simonec as his main orchestrator and the far more experienced conductor he also will be able to pick things up on the podium more so than Giachino would. That's just a guess... and uneducated one... but again from the way I see them work it's a well oiled machine and both are happy with the set up.
-Erik-
I think it depends a lot on the people you work with. Gordon talks about the details you only detect when you're out there, and the way you can influence a player's performance just by slightly glancing in their direction.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorPanthera
- CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
I'd just like to say that I have a feeling Giacchino will compose an excellent score for the new Star Trek movie. And I've never been interested in Star Trek or its music (don't yell at me).
I just think an epic space adventure will inspire him. -
- CommentTimeNov 21st 2008
Panthera wrote
And I've never been interested in Star Trek or its music (don't yell at me).
(opens mouth, face turning into angry expression, gets ready to shout some obscenity)"considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 14th 2008
Quick! All to Hawaii! There's a live performance of Ratatouille tonight by the Honolulu Symphony, followed by music from The Firebird!! -
- CommentTimeDec 14th 2008
Stravinsky? -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 14th 2008
Yup. -
- CommentTimeDec 14th 2008
What an odd but awesome mix! -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeDec 14th 2008
Ratatouille and Igor? Indeed.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorPanthera
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
Does his score for Sky High have any form of release? -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008 edited
Panthera wrote
Does his score for Sky High have any form of release?
Nope. Too bad though... the music is really good. Some massive epic orchestral/choral material near the end of the score.
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008 edited
I have the main theme, but I'm not sure where it came from. A promo or something?
I've seen the movie too but the score didn't really impress me - I just remember a lot of brass. Then again, I didn't like The Incredibles when I first heard it. -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
Anthony wrote
I have the main theme, but I'm not sure where it came from. A promo or something?
I'm pretty sure someone ripped it from my radio show when I played it back in 2005. I'm shocked that my 15 minute suite from my Giacchino special in 2006 wasn't ripped and bootlegged. Anyway, I can recall someone talking about having that track and that they downloaded it from a "radio show." And I'm the only one in the radio industry who owns the score.... as far as I know. But Michael could have pressed a personal promo with that track on it... who knows.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
I'm shocked that my 15 minute suite from my Giacchino special in 2006 wasn't ripped and bootlegged.
Isn't it about time for a re-run of that particular show?
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
Panthera wrote
Does his score for Sky High have any form of release?
it is indeed time that scores receives some form of release, fun score that shows the non Lost style of Giacchino, bring it onwaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
How is it like?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
How is it like?
it's been a long time since I saw the movie, but it is more in the style of the scores before Lost than after, indeed as said orchestral and choral together, but not too serious. Lighthearted without making it sound ridiculous, but how it sounds exactly I can't tell anymore
I want to see it again
Bro, you too?waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008 edited
Christodoulides wrote
How is it like?
Adventurous with tongue firmly planted into cheek.
Here is the finale of the film with that big choral piece I told you about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02PK3CvyBWA - Jump to the 4:36 mark.
Interesting story about the lyrics... Michael and the director (Mike Mitchell) both had kids while making the movie. So in the text Michael added his new born sons name "Griffith" and Mike Mitchell's sons name "Ollie." At one point in the cue you can clearly here "Griffith, Ollie, Griffith, Ollie, Griffith, Ollie!" Now, this isn't the first time Michael has done this. In his score to MOH: Frontline Michael added his other kids names "Mick" and "Grace" into the cue "Sturmgeist’s Armored Train." With 55 second left in the cue you can hear it.
If you'd like you can hear the AWESOME main title music Giacchino came up with in the clip below. Just watch the first 1:15.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkZfQTvO … re=related
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
SWEETLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
In his score to MOH: Frontline Michael added his other kids names "Mick" and "Grace" into the cue "Sturmgeist’s Armored Train."
Fucking weird. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
It's becoming more and more temping to start a Giacchino fan site as well...considering the official site hasn't been updated since May.
Hell, I may try and write to the man and see if I can get any support. -
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
Anthony wrote
It's becoming more and more temping to start a Giacchino fan site as well...considering the official site hasn't been updated since May.
Hell, I may try and write to the man and see if I can get any support.
You sent him a link to your four trombones work and you are inAnything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
I'm not sure he'd be too happy I've got over an hours worth of music up there for free though.