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JAMES HORNER
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- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeNov 29th 2011
This might have already been posted, but here's a guy with his head up his ass:
http://thefilmstage.com/news/james-horn … pider-man/
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- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeNov 29th 2011
Timmer wrote
Southall wrote
I will get this!
You will?
I will! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeNov 29th 2011
You will!!!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeNov 29th 2011
Steven wrote
This might have already been posted, but here's a guy with his head up his ass:
http://thefilmstage.com/news/james-horn … pider-man/
Opinions are like arse holes, we've..........On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011 edited
The Danger Motif ® has gone public in Spain. THIS was in the news yesterday!Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAtham
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
It's quite staggering really.
Why is he so obsessed with that motif? -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
What was that composer saying? -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
Marselus wrote
The Danger Motif ® has gone public in Spain. THIS was in the news yesterday!
Nice.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
Marselus wrote
The Danger Motif ® has gone public in Spain. THIS was in the news yesterday!
Cool. Coverage of Horner's danger motif in mainstream media....that's something. Only in Spain!
I love this little gimmick of his. It's one of those nice trademarks that run through his filmograhy, and it really makes sense, when you think of it. Binds all the danger elements of the films together, despite different genres and styles and situations.
Like Hitchcock's cameos in his own movies.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorKri1985
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
i agree with you Thor..! Indeed a trademark...;-)....I wish in the Hungarian news they would give stuff like that too! -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011 edited
Thor wrote
I love this little gimmick of his. It's one of those nice trademarks that run through his filmograhy, and it really makes sense, when you think of it. Binds all the danger elements of the films together, despite different genres and styles and situations.
Like Hitchcock's cameos in his own movies.
I'm on the other side of the fence. I think it's utterly distracting and one of the worst "trademarks" of Horner's career. It works fine in Trek and Willow (its best use) but in everything else it becomes this AWFUL distraction (its use in Avatar is its biggest offense.)
Imagine Williams using The Imperial March over and over and over and over again in each one of his film scores.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
I'm kind of on the fence on this one, but leaning towards Erik's side. For the most part, I don't find it as annoying as others do, but I find it just as perplexing as to why he uses it so often, even if it is a conscious decision to put a trademark in his scores. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
Erik Woods wrote
Thor wrote
I love this little gimmick of his. It's one of those nice trademarks that run through his filmograhy, and it really makes sense, when you think of it. Binds all the danger elements of the films together, despite different genres and styles and situations.
Like Hitchcock's cameos in his own movies.
I'm on the other side of the fence. I think it's utterly distracting and one of the worst "trademarks" of Horner's career. It works fine in Trek and Willow (its best use) but in everything else it becomes this AWFUL distraction (its use in Avatar is its biggest offense.)
Imagine Williams using The Imperial March over and over and over and over again in each one of his film scores.
-Erik-
I think that's mostly a result of us being so film music-conscious. Most people have no clue about this danger motif. But on the other hand, it's really just part of an artist's special touch, and I love it whenever I discover them -- even if it "takes me out" of the picture. Like lights flickering through fans and things flying in the air in Ridley Scott's film, like John Woo's doves, Tim Burton's odd angles and spiral designs or Harrison Ford's 'frustration' look.
So you could say it re-affirms the touch of the artist, whether it's the composer, director, actors, cinematographer or whatever. I applaud that.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
I don't mind if a composer uses a similar orchestration or harmony from score to score (Horner's crashing piano chords come to mind) but to re-use a theme and/or motif the way Horner does over and over and over again isn't... cool. Look, I love it when Williams uses plummeting strings to sync with a person falling off a building but like I said earlier you don't hear him re-using The Imperial March for each and every evil moment in his scores.
-Erik-
PS - My wife picked out the danger motif in Avatar and said to me... isn't that from another movie? She then commented after the film that it really annoyed her.host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011 edited
I think Horner is making a statement by using the motif that way, i.e. saying our popular culture has a set of situations that have a danger element in common. It's very conscious, I think, not just a random gadget because he keeps forgetting himself every time.
It's just part of who he is as an artist, and the way he expresses himself in said scenarios. Gives the music and composer a distinct personality.
In fact, it's one of the things that makes me such a fan of his.
But I don't really have any problems with other people experiencing it your way either.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
If Horner wants to fart around with previous motifs and themes in the classical/concert world then so be it (like what John Williams did with a little motif from Seven Years in Tibet that he loves so much and wanted to expanded on) but when it comes down to film a composer should (among other things) strive to give each and every film its own distinct personality mostly through the use of some sort of original theme or motif. Re-using themes and motifs associated with other films and/or other characters is not the correct approach, IMO.
Or you can blame Rachmaninoff and end this discussion right here right now!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
I blame Rachmaninoff! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
Erik Woods wrote
If Horner wants to fart around with previous motifs and themes in the classical/concert world then so be it (like what John Williams did with a little motif from Seven Years in Tibet that he loves so much and wanted to expanded on) but when it comes down to film a composer should (among other things) strive to give each and every film its own distinct personality mostly through the use of some sort of original theme or motif. Re-using themes and motifs associated with other films and/or other characters is not the correct approach, IMO.
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that. If it had been a fullblown theme repeated over and over again, it had been one thing, but when it's just a motif, a detail, a 'cameo trademark' like that, it's 100% positive, IMO.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
It's not really like using The Imperial March, is it? It's four notes. It's like Michael Kamen's little rhythmic pattern that he used in literally every score, as a joke (e.g. the opening bars of the Robin Hood overture). The only time I've found it irritating is Enemy at the Gates, where it seems to appear every few seconds. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
James HornerOn Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
Hames Jorner.host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
Michael Giacchino.
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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
Da Da Da Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
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- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2011
Erik Woods wrote
Da Da Da Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
If I ever have your phone number Erik, Horner's danger motif is going to be the ringtone I give your number.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeDec 7th 2011
Yeah, I don't have too much of a problem with the motif, as long as the remaining score is fresh enough. -
- CommentAuthorjustin boggan
- CommentTimeDec 7th 2011
By "fresh", you mean the classical piece of music nobody immediately recognizes?The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else. -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeDec 7th 2011
Steven wrote
What was that composer saying?
He says that the Danger Motif is Horner's trademark, that he uses to be recognised.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeDec 7th 2011
Marselus wrote
Steven wrote
What was that composer saying?
He says that the Danger Motif is Horner's trademark, that he uses to be recognised.
Same as what I've been saying, then. Kudos to the journalist!I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorBasilB
- CommentTimeDec 14th 2011
BLACK GOLD
Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Music Composed by
James Horner
(Titanic, Avatar. Aliens)
Under the unforgiving desert sky, two warring leaders come face to face.
The victorious Nesib, Emir of Hobeika, lays down his peace terms to his rival Amar, Sultan of Salmaah. The two men agree that neither can lay claim to the area of no man’s land between them called The Yellow Belt. In return, Nesib will adopt Amar’s two boys Saleeh and Auda as a guarantee that neither man can invade the other.
Twelve years later, Saleeh and Auda have grown into young men. Saleeh, the warrior, itches to escape his gilded cage and return to his father’s land. Auda cares only for books and the pursuit of knowledge. One day, their adopted father Nesib is visited by an American from Texas. He tells the Emir that his land is blessed with oil and promises him riches beyond his wildest imagination. Nesib imagines a realm of infinite possibility, a kingdom with roads, schools and hospitals all paid for by the black gold beneath the barren sand. There is only one problem. The precious oil is located in the Yellow Belt.
The stage is now set for an epic showdown for control of the Yellow Belt, for control of the two kingdoms, for control of the future.
James Horner is one of the most celebrated modern film composers. Having created the music for dozens of the most memorable and successful films of the past two decades, Horner was honored with two Academy Awards and two Golden Globes for James Cameron’s Titanic.
In addition, he has earned Academy Award nominations for his Original Scores for Avatar, House of Sand and Fog, A Beautiful Mind, Braveheart, Apollo 13, Field of Dreams and Aliens, and for the Original Song “Somewhere Out There“ from An American Tale.
Horner’s sweeping dramatic score for Black Gold is an integral element to the film which will transport audiences into the heart of the Arabian desert.
Warner Bros. and Universal Pictures will open the film internationally beginning December 23, 2011.
Varese Sarabande Catalog # 302 067 134 2
Release Date: 02/07/12