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ALEXANDRE DESPLAT
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- CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
Well, not an inspired choice, but a good one. Strange how it still seems to be uncertain whether he´ll be doing part 2 as well, but if they really change the musical identities between those two movies as well, I´ll give up on hoping that they will deliver something really great this time.
If Desplat is in for the whole affair, I´ll be delighted. I loved how he planted the seeds in The Golden Compass and think it would have been a fantastic scory ride if the series would have continued.
Now we´ll see what will happen. Beside the main theme, and possibly Window to the Past, there would be no need for the old themes, since Deathly Hallows is so different from the other books that it screams for a lot of new stuff in its score.
Desplat is a good choice. Not great, but good. We´ll see... -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
From everyone working now, i'd say Desplat is indeed one of the great choices that could be made
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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
Ralph Kruhm wrote
Now we´ll see what will happen. Beside the main theme, and possibly Window to the Past, there would be no need for the old themes, since Deathly Hallows is so different from the other books that it screams for a lot of new stuff in its score.
Well, it was Williams himself who set the tone for not reusing themes in Prisoner of Askaban. The only theme re-used (beside Williams' new Qidditch motif heard in the last Hooper score) is "Hedwig's Theme" and that's all I'm sure Desplat will use. However, it would be great to hear more of the underrated "Harry's Wondrous World" or as Ralph pointed out Williams gorgeous "Window to the Past."
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- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
Has anyone else heard Desplat's L'Enquête Corse from 2004?
It's not really related to the current discussions on Harry Potter, but it doesn't get mentioned much when Desplat is mentioned (maybe because no-one likes it).
I like it, reminding me of a sort of The Incredibles/John Barry Bond/Henry Mancini-type score.
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- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
while Desplat is a huge improvement over Hooper, I'm sad Williams isn't returning to finish the job he started
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- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
Thomas Glorieux wrote
while Desplat is a huge improvement over Hooper, I'm sad Williams isn't returning to finish the job he started
But his themes will live on - hopefully.
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
FalkirkBairn wrote
Thomas Glorieux wrote
while Desplat is a huge improvement over Hooper, I'm sad Williams isn't returning to finish the job he started
But his themes will live on - hopefully.
They're already too ingrained in the Potter mythos to be suddenly abandoned.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
It's be better if they abandoned the whole project altogether, once and for all
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- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
FalkirkBairn wrote
Has anyone else heard Desplat's L'Enquête Corse from 2004?
It's not really related to the current discussions on Harry Potter, but it doesn't get mentioned much when Desplat is mentioned (maybe because no-one likes it).
I like it, reminding me of a sort of The Incredibles/John Barry Bond/Henry Mancini-type score.
Clips anyone?
Yup. I've had it for a while now. There are some really cool cues on that cd (L'Hélicoptre) and the uberchilly Theme de Léa, with that fine joyful sound and a breath of French air. Jack Palmer's main theme is a good one!
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- CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
- CommentTimeJan 19th 2010
Erik, Harry´s Wondrous World would indeed be a great choice for a very specific scene (I don´t know how familiar you are with the book, if at all), but beside that the movie will be too dark for this kind of music. -
- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeJan 20th 2010
Southall wrote
Should be mentioned here that FSM has reported that Desplat has signed on to do the final Harry Potter. While I'm disappointed Williams isn't back, I can't think of anyone better in his absence. Exciting news!
Seconded. Although the FSM post stresses that Desplat is only doing Part One at the moment, it's entirely possible they could get another composer (or Williams back) for Part Two.
Great, great news. Considering his style, Williams' "A Window to the Past" would probably resurface in the film too... particularly the soft, restrained nature of the theme.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog -
- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeJan 20th 2010
franz_conrad wrote
Well... I guess we'll be hearing another Hogwarts waltz!
It would be interesting to see how people would receive a Desplat score for HP. I suspect he would, as he did for NEW MOON, mostly ignore what had gone before in the series.
Uh, no. This isn't Carter Burwell we're talking about -- I'm sure the director, studio and producers will 'encourage' Desplat to at least incorporate "Hedwig's Theme" into the score. I think Desplat's enthusiasm for Williams is much more potent than his respect for Burwell.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 20th 2010 edited
I said 'mostly ignore', not 'totally ignore'. Obviously Hedwig's theme will be there in some form, but I can't believe they will force any more fidelity to previous themes on Desplat than they did on Doyle and Hooper. He and the director would have to particularly want to do it.
Desplat spoke in interview about his significant respect for Burwell's music (and anyone from a French film background would have considerable respect for Burwell - they love the coens), but how he felt it best to not even listen to Burwell's score in order to give the new film his own instinctive approach. (And I guess the truth behind that is that the new director was allowed to do whatever he wanted except re-cast, and he in all likelihood told Desplat: 'I don't want anything like Burwell's music.' If he'd said anything else, I think Desplat might have paid it a bit more attention.)A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeJan 20th 2010 edited
I am 100% sure Hedwig's theme will be used, more than once. Burwell's score was not really something exceptionally popular like Hedwig's theme, which has gained a cult status and is an identity of the franchise. That said, as much as I'd like Desplat to incorporate other themes by JW (particularly "A Window To The Past"), I'd be glad to see Desplat do more of his own work here. I just hope he does the action scoring well (especially a certain [spoiler]Seven Potters aerial battle[/spoiler] scene). I mean, I wasn't too impressed with the action music in New Moon but the ones in Largo Winch were really good.
Christodoulides wrote
I'd love to hear JNH too (where is he btw? He's been rather "off" the scene for a while...)
He's coming up with one of the potentially best scores of the year - The Last Airbender.
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- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeJan 20th 2010
DemonStar wrote
That said, as much as I'd like Desplat to incorporate other themes by JW (particularly "A Window To The Past"), I'd be glad to see Desplat do more of his own work here.
I was actually listening to "Window to the Past" yesterday. Frankly, that has similarities to some of Desplat's writing -- quiet, almost restrained opening with a wind instrument before heading into true Williams drama territory. I hope Desplat actually listens to more than just "Hedwig's Theme," since I think Desplat's deconstruction and usage of "Window in the Past" could also really be effective in one scene.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog -
- CommentAuthorfommes
- CommentTimeJan 20th 2010
More than I'd like him to quote A Window to the Past, I'd like him to come up with strong themes and variations himself instead. It's a few Potter movies ago since that happened. -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJan 20th 2010
FalkirkBairn wrote
Thomas Glorieux wrote
while Desplat is a huge improvement over Hooper, I'm sad Williams isn't returning to finish the job he started
But his themes will live on - hopefully.
I don't think anyone can do Harry Potter without the themes, so indeed Williams will return a little bit
waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010 edited
Erik Woods wrote
Broughton, Holdridge, McNeely, Lennertz, Gordon, ... but no, let's go with the emotionless and forever restrained Desplat.
Please baby Jesus bring back Williams for Part II.
-Erik-
Oh come on Erik. It's not the end of the world. The mystery and intrigue in the first half of the book is very suited to Desplat's style, if that's any indication. There's action in it, but as David Yates said, "It's very much a road movie."
Desplat hasn't even started work on the movie, although considering Yates' work mode (working with the composer during and after filming) that will change in the first few months. I think the naysayers should definitely wait until the film and soundtrack release come out before trashing WB's decision.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010
Matt C wrote
I think the naysayers should definitely wait until the film and soundtrack release come out before trashing WB's decision.
I always do Matt. But seeing those composers listed above being past over time and time again is what angers me the most.
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- CommentAuthorPanthera
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010
Although it is unlikely, it is possible that some of them were already offered the job and turned it down. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010
Panthera wrote
Although it is unlikely, it is possible that some of them were already offered the job and turned it down.
That is rather unlikely.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010 edited
Allegedly only two other composers apart from John Williams were in negotiation for the film, one being Alexandre himself. The other one, dunno, but I reckon it must've been one of the A-list fellas (Horner or JNH perhaps?). -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010
Horner was offered it before Williams when the series began but didn't want to do it, so I don't suppose there was ever a chance he'd be interested now.
I'd love to hear a Bruce Broughton score for Potter, or a McNeely one, but that was never really going to happen. Of the realistic candidates, I'm delighted it's Desplat. -
- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010 edited
Broughton would've been great for the earlier films, but the final one requires a more dark/emotional approach with large dramatic and action pieces, for which I think McNeely would've been a great choice. I think Desplat is a very good choice for the first part, and can't wait to hear what he come up with. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010
DemonStar wrote
Broughton would've been great for the earlier films, but the final one requires a more dark/emotional approach with large dramatic and action pieces, for which I think McNeely would've been a great choice.
And you don't think Broughton could do the same?
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- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeJan 21st 2010
I would prefer McNeely over Broughton in that case (not that Broughton is incapable of it). -
- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeJan 22nd 2010
Has anyone else considered what else that encouraged David Yates, the producers and Warner Brothers to hire Desplat? Not just because he is a very popular composer now, but maybe because his style is a bit similar to Hooper's? Come on, that's probably attracted Yates to him.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 22nd 2010
Matt C wrote
Has anyone else considered what else that encouraged David Yates, the producers and Warner Brothers to hire Desplat? Not just because he is a very popular composer now, but maybe because his style is a bit similar to Hooper's? Come on, that's probably attracted Yates to him.
Really? I don't know much of Hooper's work, but neither Order of the Phoenix or Aquas to Amazon reminded me of Desplat at all.
I suspect what really would play a part is that Yates comes out of BBC tv drama, and so has a bit more a dramatic emphasis as a director. And perhaps, like every other director seems to be doing at the moment, he really liked BIRTH and just wants to work with him.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 22nd 2010
Matt C wrote
Has anyone else considered what else that encouraged David Yates, the producers and Warner Brothers to hire Desplat? Not just because he is a very popular composer now, but maybe because his style is a bit similar to Hooper's? Come on, that's probably attracted Yates to him.
His style is pretty similar to Hooper? That's for us to laugh or you're actually being serious? I'd like examples if you're indeed serious about this as ive never heard anything remotely close to Desplat from Hooper, in all aspects, stylistic and quality-wise.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeJan 23rd 2010
I meant in a broader sense: similar instrumentation and a restrained approach. Desplat is definitely superior to Hooper in terms of quality and composition.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog
