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DAVID ARNOLD
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- CommentTimeJul 30th 2008
Anthony wrote
Arnold is clearly our new generation of John Barry
Shit, run and hide. There are older members listening in! -
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
Anthony wrote
Yes, but I'm talking more about the main Bond theme and not the Barry style of writing. Arnold is clearly our new generation of John Barry, and it's that style of writing that kept it feeling like a Bond score. If the music you mentioned wasn't used, then it would surely just become another generic action adventure score.
To be honest, much though I appreciate that Arnold tries to pay tribute to Barry by using some of his music in all of his Bond scores, it always feels a bit jarring to me. Arnold is absolutely nothing like Barry and it always feels like the generic action adventure score stops for a couple of minutes' lifting from You Only Live Twice (it's always You Only Live Twice) before starting up again. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008 edited
Southall wrote
Anthony wrote
Yes, but I'm talking more about the main Bond theme and not the Barry style of writing. Arnold is clearly our new generation of John Barry, and it's that style of writing that kept it feeling like a Bond score. If the music you mentioned wasn't used, then it would surely just become another generic action adventure score.
To be honest, much though I appreciate that Arnold tries to pay tribute to Barry by using some of his music in all of his Bond scores, it always feels a bit jarring to me. Arnold is absolutely nothing like Barry and it always feels like the generic action adventure score stops for a couple of minutes' lifting from You Only Live Twice (it's always You Only Live Twice) before starting up again.
Arnold's favourite Bond score too, surprise surprise!?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
Steven wrote
Anthony wrote
Arnold is clearly our new generation of John Barry
Shit, run and hide. There are older members listening in!
Really? Where!?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
It's the high octane David Arnold action stuff I'm mostly concerned about, not the songs anyway... -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
DemonStar wrote
It's the high octane David Arnold action stuff I'm mostly concerned about, not the songs anyway...
Fair enough but the thematic material suffers when the composer doesn't have a hand in the writing of the theme song. John Barry walked from GOLDENEYE for that reason and I don't blame him.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
John Barry was ON GOLDENEYE?!
And instead we got Mr. Nintendo 64 Synthesizer. -
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
He did? That's a damn shame. Barry's score would have been awesome for a film like Goldeneye. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
Steven wrote
He did? That's a damn shame. Barry's score would have been awesome for a film like Goldeneye.
Personally I think it was probably the last Bond film that Barry would have been just right for, his classy elegant style wouldn't fit in with todays noise fests.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
Anthony wrote
John Barry was ON GOLDENEYE?!
And instead we got Mr. Nintendo 64 Synthesizer.
You can't make it upOn Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
Anthony wrote
John Barry was ON GOLDENEYE?!
And instead we got Mr. Nintendo 64 Synthesizer.
I'd bet money you've never heard the dramatic gem that is LEON. Or the equally strong The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Anthony wrote
John Barry was ON GOLDENEYE?!
And instead we got Mr. Nintendo 64 Synthesizer.
I'd bet money you've never heard the dramatic gem that is LEON. Or the equally strong The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc.
Whether he has or not is besides the point D, he's talking about the score for GOLDENEYE.
p.s. LEON is very good imo but I didn't like 'Joan of Arc' at all.....film and score!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2008
I did like Serra's score to Joan Of Arc, but then I'm no Barry fan.
(OK, that made no sense at all)'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeSep 15th 2008
David Arnold at Bond 22 Sessions
David Arnold talks exclusively to Stage and Screen Online from the scoring sessions for the latest James Bond movie, Quantum of Solace.
[Length : 7'10'' / Recorded Sept 2008]
http://www.stageandscreenonline.com/dow … 2_ses.htmlLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeSep 15th 2008 edited
Thanks but why is it so quiet?
EDIT: It's alright, my headphone socket wasn't in properly. LOL. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeSep 15th 2008
And I was about to go to bed!
Sounds like it could be the Empire Strikes Back of Bond! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
Martijn wrote
I did like Serra's score to Joan Of Arc, but then I'm no Barry fan.
(OK, that made no sense at all)
I think your pointing out the fact I don't like Joan of Arc means you do like Joan of Arc cos I'm a Barry fan and you are not.
The fact I like Empire Strikes Back means you don't like You Only Live Twice.
I believe I'm making as much sense as you!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2008
Timmer wrote
The fact I like Empire Strikes Back means you don't like You Only Live Twice.
I believe I'm making as much sense as you!
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2008
Is David Arnold Co-composer of the new bond Song with Jack White and Alicia Keys?
Someone can talk a little bit about the audio interview in musicfromthemovies.com?
thanks. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2008
Nautilus wrote
Is David Arnold Co-composer of the new bond Song with Jack White and Alicia Keys?
Someone can talk a little bit about the audio interview in musicfromthemovies.com?
thanks.
Arnold is nothing to do with the song.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2008
Timmer wrote
Nautilus wrote
Is David Arnold Co-composer of the new bond Song with Jack White and Alicia Keys?
Someone can talk a little bit about the audio interview in musicfromthemovies.com?
thanks.
Arnold is nothing to do with the song.
Which probably means no references to it in the score. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2008
Anthony wrote
Timmer wrote
Nautilus wrote
Is David Arnold Co-composer of the new bond Song with Jack White and Alicia Keys?
Someone can talk a little bit about the audio interview in musicfromthemovies.com?
thanks.
Arnold is nothing to do with the song.
Which probably means no references to it in the score.
The Bond producers have taken the integrity out of the scoring which is why Barry was big and rich enough to walk off Goldeneye.
Regardless of any of my feelings towards Arnold's scoring he should be involved in the song.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2008 edited
Timmer wrote
Anthony wrote
Timmer wrote
Nautilus wrote
Is David Arnold Co-composer of the new bond Song with Jack White and Alicia Keys?
Someone can talk a little bit about the audio interview in musicfromthemovies.com?
thanks.
Arnold is nothing to do with the song.
Which probably means no references to it in the score.
The Bond producers have taken the integrity out of the scoring which is why Barry was big and rich enough to walk off Goldeneye.
Regardless of any of my feelings towards Arnold's scoring he should be involved in the song.
Exactly. Hopefully this time it won't be a case of Arnold writing a song and encorporating it into the score, only to have the song rejected not have it recorded (Die Another Day). At least with Tomorrow Never Dies they put it over the end credits...but still, Surrender was way better than anything Sheryl Crow was singing.
I was thinking about this the other day, and it annoys the hell out of me. Already it's a step below Casino Royale. -
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2008
Anthony wrote
Timmer wrote
Anthony wrote
Timmer wrote
Nautilus wrote
Is David Arnold Co-composer of the new bond Song with Jack White and Alicia Keys?
Someone can talk a little bit about the audio interview in musicfromthemovies.com?
thanks.
Arnold is nothing to do with the song.
Which probably means no references to it in the score.
The Bond producers have taken the integrity out of the scoring which is why Barry was big and rich enough to walk off Goldeneye.
Regardless of any of my feelings towards Arnold's scoring he should be involved in the song.
Exactly. Hopefully this time it won't be a case of Arnold writing a song and encorporating it into the score, only to have the song rejected not have it recorded (Die Another Day). At least with Tomorrow Never Dies they put it over the end credits...but still, Surrender was way better than anything Sheryl Crow was singing.
I was thinking about this the other day, and it annoys the hell out of me. Already it's a step below Casino Royale.
This is the diference between Arnold (or some other composer) and Zimmer. Zimmer is not so much a composer but a public relations. Zimmer sells so well himself that producers or directors always counts with him in the musical decisions.
Anyway, the 3 Arnold songs for Bond movies are some of my favourite Arnold scores. What he did wrong is choosing not top singers. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2008
Nautilus wrote
Anthony wrote
Timmer wrote
Anthony wrote
Timmer wrote
Nautilus wrote
Is David Arnold Co-composer of the new bond Song with Jack White and Alicia Keys?
Someone can talk a little bit about the audio interview in musicfromthemovies.com?
thanks.
Arnold is nothing to do with the song.
Which probably means no references to it in the score.
The Bond producers have taken the integrity out of the scoring which is why Barry was big and rich enough to walk off Goldeneye.
Regardless of any of my feelings towards Arnold's scoring he should be involved in the song.
Exactly. Hopefully this time it won't be a case of Arnold writing a song and encorporating it into the score, only to have the song rejected not have it recorded (Die Another Day). At least with Tomorrow Never Dies they put it over the end credits...but still, Surrender was way better than anything Sheryl Crow was singing.
I was thinking about this the other day, and it annoys the hell out of me. Already it's a step below Casino Royale.
This is the diference between Arnold (or some other composer) and Zimmer. Zimmer is not so much a composer but a public relations. Zimmer sells so well himself that producers or directors always counts with him in the musical decisions.
I'm sorry, but what are you talking about? -
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2008
That you don't need to quote everything!Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2008
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2008
I. AM. NOT. IMPRESSED.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2008 edited
This is the diference between Arnold (or some other composer) and Zimmer. Zimmer is not so much a composer but a public relations. Zimmer sells so well himself that producers or directors always counts with him in the musical decisions.
I'm sorry, but what are you talking about?
About Zimmer and his way to be always there. being more a friend of producers and directors.