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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2008
    Glad I'm not an ant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa0uxeHDgBg

    Peter shocked
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2008
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2008
    Super high-speed photography. Pretty impressive.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a8_1226711802
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      CommentAuthoromaha
    • CommentTimeNov 19th 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    Super high-speed photography. Pretty impressive.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a8_1226711802


    that's pretty sweet
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2008
    Meteors meteors!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=723_1227314578
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2008
    Space shuttle re-enters earth's atmosphere and causes double sonic boom! Turn the volume up!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=220_1228202868
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      CommentAuthoromaha
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    Space shuttle re-enters earth's atmosphere and causes double sonic boom! Turn the volume up!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=220_1228202868


    We used to feel that sonic boom all the time. All our windows would shake like crazy!! dizzy
    I guess one of the perks about living in central Florida. Getting to see all the shuttles go up (it really lights up the sky fireworks).
    I was able to see John Glenn go up for his second round from the water right next to the space center.

    And having seen Columbia go up for her last voyage, that was kind of eerie...

    All of you need to come stay in Florida and see the Kennedy space center!!!!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2008
    I believe that should be a purely awe-inspiring experience!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 6th 2008
    When earth goes mad

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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 6th 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    When earth goes mad

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=704_1228511265


    Whoa.

    And to Earth, it's a mere scratch of the nose.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeDec 6th 2008
    Steven wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    When earth goes mad

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=704_1228511265


    Whoa.

    And to Earth, it's a mere scratch of the nose.


    I vow never to live in a house that close to a large hill.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2008 edited
    "Black hole found in Milky Way"

    This may sound like an obvious discovery, but according to the article we now have "empirical evidence that super-massive black holes do really exist [...] beyond any reasonable doubt." cheesy (Hard to imagine what else it could be of course. But for now I'll assume they're right. wink)
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2008
    The need to get laid can do serious stuff to a man's mind.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFZVwQ53bk
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2008
    Had to kill 3 test mice the other day, during my immunology course. slant Worst thing was that they were super cute and I wanted to smuggle them home in my pocket.

    Being a science student isn't always fun and games.

    Peter smile
  1. My sympathies.

    How did you had to kill them? Was it some kind of infection?
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2008 edited
    We haven't had to do that in school, luckily. The closest I came was when we had to examine freshly removed leg muscles of cockroach under microscope. My classmates had fun mutilating the poor creatures, but I simply found a spare leg lying about, dissected it and prepared a slide. And my teacher showed it to them all biggrin

    I'm going to join medical college next year so we probably won't have much to do with dissecting animals anyway luckily smile

    I'm sorry, Peter! I can understand how that feels, being an animal lover myself shame
  2. You will dissect people on the first year though.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2008
    Why would you have to kill them before doing tests, Peter?
    I'm adamantly opposed against killing and disecting solely for abstract educational purposes (there's no reason whatsoever to not simply keep cadavers in the freezer if you really, really, really feel you need to do this in biology (in The Netherlands we don't and we seem to get by just fine)), but little as I know about immunology, I'm perfectly willing to concede there may be some greater purpose that escapes me: if any such undertaking is a step towards a greater quality of life, I'm all for it.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2008
    Demon, had it only been cockroaches, I'd taken pleasure from it. Alas, these mice were small, furry and playful. I found it very difficult.

    Martijn, many on the course will probably go on to work in the medical industry developing new drugs or doing basic research to understand how life functions, which will in the end benefit us all as well. The purpose of such a course was to prepare people for how research is done out there. From working with radioactive and toxic substances, working with high tech machines, pipetting and calculating data like nuts, and killing and experimenting on mice. That's how the work is, and the reason why we have so much knowledge and so many fancy drugs today.

    The good thing is that these mice lived perfect lives. I could tell they were happy and active little critters, and they had friends and houses and hay to play in. We were instructed to do our best not to stress them, and the killing was extremely fast and out of nowhere. That's how I want to go. A carefree life with plenty of food and friends, and instant death out of nowhere.

    Now, try to compare this with..... industrial fishing for instance. You're dragged up in a huge net, get thrown in a huge pile of your friends and family to slowly suffocate to death, which can take from minutes to hours. That's just the worst possible deatht and no one seems to care. Something wrong with the priorities there.

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorHeeroJF
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2008
    plindboe wrote
    Now, try to compare this with..... industrial fishing for instance. You're dragged up in a huge net, get thrown in a huge pile of your friends and family to slowly suffocate to death, which can take from minutes to hours. That's just the worst possible deatht and no one seems to care. Something wrong with the priorities there.

    Peter smile


    I care.

    I care that the world has to eat. And there's a LOT of people in the world.

    But I would be prepared to pay $0.05 extra for my can of tuna if it meant they could do some research to find out a way to knock out the fish upon dragging it out. I agree that it's lazy just letting it die slowly.
    ''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
    MICE, CUTE? shocked Next thing you know someone's going to actually call friggin gross spiders charming.




    oh; wait..
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
    plindboe wrote
    Demon, had it only been cockroaches, I'd taken pleasure from it. Alas, these mice were small, furry and playful. I found it very difficult.


    Yep, I know. I meant it was me coming closest to dissection experiments so far wink

    PawelStroinski wrote
    You will dissect people on the first year though.


    Yeah, but we won't have to kill them first wink
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
    DemonStar wrote
    Yeah, but we won't have to kill them first wink


    Doesn't it scare you though, the thought about dissecting someone? I can imagine the first must be extremely difficult (unless you're Norman Bates of course).

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    MICE, CUTE? shocked


    Awwww, aren't they cute? Look at those little tails.

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
    Guys, it's nature. No lion feels mercy when he has to mangle a deer or any smaller animal in order to survive. For the time being human is on top of the food chain; so...
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008 edited
    But humans can choose not to kill and can survive without meat.

    I eat meat, so I obviously have no problem with it. There may come a day when that's viewed the same way as we view racism today. Who knows?
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
    plindboe wrote
    DemonStar wrote
    Yeah, but we won't have to kill them first wink


    Doesn't it scare you though, the thought about dissecting someone? I can imagine the first must be extremely difficult (unless you're Norman Bates of course).

    Peter smile


    It's scary, yeah! But all medical students gradually overcome this fear as they practice it definitely. I'm sure (at least I hope) I will too! smile
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
    Steven wrote
    But humans can choose not to kill and can survive without meat.

    I eat meat, so I obviously have no problem with it. There may come a day when that's viewed the same way as we view racism today. Who knows?


    There's a lot of nutrition problems for the strict vegetarians my friend; it's not as simple as that, humans can survive without meat but it's not without implications. As a specialist for more info.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008
    Currently that holds true: a strictly vegetarian diet definitely requires nutritional additives to counterbalance the lack of (amongst others) proteins and iron. I have no problem at all with eating meat: we are at the top of the foodchain and -like it or not- that gives us the privilige of doing what we want to do.

    I would agree though that being at the top also comes with the proper responsibility.
    I would never put an animal's life or rights before that of a man's, but there's no reason at all we should be jaded or indifferent towards it: if an animal's life can be saved, or its quality of life increased without any detrimental effect to our own, there's no reason at all NOT to do it.
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2008 edited
    People eat more meat than they need to though... what's worse, they waste meat too. To put that differently, they kill an animal and then throw it in the bin or they throw up or whatever.

    On a different note, if you ask children if they think eating meat is OK or not they argue that the meat is already there anyway and the animal has already died, so, why not eat it then after all? It's already dead anyway.

    Hehe, the way kids reason. applause

    Luckily when they get a bit older (or when they argue with me wink ) they start to understand the idea of consuming and market and everything. But some people never seem to get to that point of understanding unfortunately.