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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    William wrote
    NP: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - James Horner

    First listen. smile


    A favourite! I'd like to know what you think William?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    NP : THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY - Ennio Morricone



    A sublime work of brilliance. It goes without saying that the track The Ecstasy of Gold is a piece of true genius.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  1. Timmer wrote
    NP : THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY - Ennio Morricone



    A sublime work of brilliance. It goes without saying that the track The Ecstasy of Gold is a piece of true genius.

    Timmer, you always listen to some great titles! punk
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY - Ennio Morricone



    A sublime work of brilliance. It goes without saying that the track The Ecstasy of Gold is a piece of true genius.

    Timmer, you always listen to some great titles! punk


    Thanks Alan beer
    I do have a tendency to return and return again add infintum to those scores I love the most though I really should give more attention to the many scores I have which I've not given a chance.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  2. Timmer wrote
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY - Ennio Morricone



    A sublime work of brilliance. It goes without saying that the track The Ecstasy of Gold is a piece of true genius.

    Timmer, you always listen to some great titles! punk


    Thanks Alan beer
    I do have a tendency to return and return again add infintum to those scores I love the most though I really should give more attention to the many scores I have which I've not given a chance.

    ...and I spend too much time listening to new stuff when I should be revisiting my old favourites. rolleyes
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorPanthera
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    Anthony wrote
    At the moment I'd put this above Speed Racer and The Family Stone, but still below everything else.


    Speed Racer should be much higher on the list.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    NP : STAR WARS : THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - John Williams



    Simply fantastic! punk
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    I'll try once i find myself a blu-ray player and a decent tv wink smile

    n.p. A&D

    How Jordi said: what are you, angel or demon? biggrin


    Demon!!!

    The last 20 minutes could be for a "good" score, uh? 20 minutes of good dramatic and orchestral music.

    Anyway, Listening this score I'm not sure it's so "trash" (except 160 bpm) I find some very "worked" elements on it.

    "fire" and "black skmoke" are really cool

    The sampled chorus sings something? Or they are just sample "domini" "aaaaa" "oooooh"
  3. Timmer wrote
    NP : STAR WARS : THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - John Williams



    Simply fantastic! punk


    Tell me, do you listen to the whole score in one go? I always try to do that with the Special Editions. punk

    Will this score ever be bettered, by Williams or some other genius? I sure would like to know in this lifetime.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    Nautilus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    I'll try once i find myself a blu-ray player and a decent tv wink smile

    n.p. A&D

    How Jordi said: what are you, angel or demon? biggrin


    Demon!!!

    The last 20 minutes could be for a "good" score, uh? 20 minutes of good dramatic and orchestral music.

    Anyway, Listening this score I'm not sure it's so "trash" (except 160 bpm) I find some very "worked" elements on it.

    "fire" and "black skmoke" are really cool

    The sampled chorus sings something? Or they are just sample "domini" "aaaaa" "oooooh"


    You're worried about the score? Where are the techno remixes?! confused cry
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    DreamTheater wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : STAR WARS : THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - John Williams



    Simply fantastic! punk


    Tell me, do you listen to the whole score in one go? I always try to do that with the Special Editions. punk

    Will this score ever be bettered, by Williams or some other genius? I sure would like to know in this lifetime.


    It's one of those scores I never want to listen to "in bits". Far too good for that malarkey!
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    Steven wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : STAR WARS : THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - John Williams



    Simply fantastic! punk


    Tell me, do you listen to the whole score in one go? I always try to do that with the Special Editions. punk

    Will this score ever be bettered, by Williams or some other genius? I sure would like to know in this lifetime.


    It's one of those scores I never want to listen to "in bits". Far too good for that malarkey!


    Totally agree. Not Williams´ biggest fan, but this is definitely in my top 5; actually, it should be in ANY top five. I know you love top fives, top tens and top twenties.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    I'm not that keen on them to be honest. Quantifying my adoration for scores isn't a task I relish.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009
    Just joking. I know you don´t like those lists wink
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
  4. Anthony wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    I'll try once i find myself a blu-ray player and a decent tv wink smile

    n.p. A&D

    How Jordi said: what are you, angel or demon? biggrin


    Demon!!!

    The last 20 minutes could be for a "good" score, uh? 20 minutes of good dramatic and orchestral music.

    Anyway, Listening this score I'm not sure it's so "trash" (except 160 bpm) I find some very "worked" elements on it.

    "fire" and "black skmoke" are really cool

    The sampled chorus sings something? Or they are just sample "domini" "aaaaa" "oooooh"


    You're worried about the score? Where are the techno remixes?! confused cry


    The whole score sounds like a techno remix lol
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2009 edited
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Anthony wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    I'll try once i find myself a blu-ray player and a decent tv wink smile

    n.p. A&D

    How Jordi said: what are you, angel or demon? biggrin


    Demon!!!

    The last 20 minutes could be for a "good" score, uh? 20 minutes of good dramatic and orchestral music.

    Anyway, Listening this score I'm not sure it's so "trash" (except 160 bpm) I find some very "worked" elements on it.

    "fire" and "black skmoke" are really cool

    The sampled chorus sings something? Or they are just sample "domini" "aaaaa" "oooooh"


    You're worried about the score? Where are the techno remixes?! confused cry


    The whole score sounds like a techno remix lol


    Exactly!!! punk punk

    I like How Demetris defined this score : the Heavy Metal version of The Da Vinci Code.

    NP:Angels and Demons (Zimmer).

    There is so much to enjoy here, that I barely listen the last 20 minutes (the dramatic stuff) because I'm so addicted to the action tracks!!! Again and again!

    In my opinion Angels and Demons is much better fusion of electronics and "orchestra" than he did for the Batman Franshice. A more enjoyable soundscape.

    Talking about more subtile things, I like the new motif (in the minute 1:53 in "fire", for example ) a kind of mysterious sounding motif; Langdon's theme arrengements in piano and Violin are terribly cool; the Ukelele effect in the final minutes of Air; The techno version of fructus gravis action motif in "black smoke"....Is not very usual in Zimmer to integrate so diferent themes into his tracks.


    "God particle" is an example of the whole score. I love that track! Beautiful, creepy, dark, electronic...

    Zimmer is one of the few guys who knows how produce an Album.

    PS:The best thing about Angels and Demons is the fact i don't have to choose between it and The Da VInci Code. One is a crazy action packed score, and other is a majestous MASTERPIECE.
  5. FalkirkBairn wrote
    franz_conrad wrote
    NP: Story of an Unknown Actor (Schnittke - Strobel conducting)

    Said one thought to another: "Surely they are mad,
    who put on the soundtracks that make them feel sad!"
    "No madness", said the other, "and we should be glad
    for a recording like Strobel's, of music so rad!"

    Did you see my reference to this work in the "Recent Purchase" thread?

    A hearty recommendation, heeded!


    I haven't been in Recent Purchases for a while actually. At the moment there's a very threatening 380+ posts to be read if I do. dizzy
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  6. franz_conrad wrote
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    franz_conrad wrote
    NP: Story of an Unknown Actor (Schnittke - Strobel conducting)

    Said one thought to another: "Surely they are mad,
    who put on the soundtracks that make them feel sad!"
    "No madness", said the other, "and we should be glad
    for a recording like Strobel's, of music so rad!"

    Did you see my reference to this work in the "Recent Purchase" thread?

    A hearty recommendation, heeded!


    I haven't been in Recent Purchases for a while actually. At the moment there's a very threatening 380+ posts to be read if I do. dizzy

    http://www.maintitles.net/forum/discuss … ent_103834
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    DreamTheater wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : STAR WARS : THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - John Williams



    Simply fantastic! punk


    Tell me, do you listen to the whole score in one go? I always try to do that with the Special Editions. punk

    Will this score ever be bettered, by Williams or some other genius? I sure would like to know in this lifetime.


    Well, this score doesn't make my all time top 10 but it isn't far off. Mostly I play the whole score as I did on this occasion but there are other times I'll play highlights, The Asteroid Field etc.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009 edited
    WP: STAR TREK - Michael Giacchino
    I feel like a converted man. I never got into the Giacchino craze: LOST just went past by me, which almost seems essential for the man, and I loved The Incredits, but hadn't enjoyed the full Incredibles score in one go yet. M:I-III I felt was overrated, and I'm not really into game scores. Speed Racer was great in composition, but lacked a certain... I-don't-know-what to strike a chord with me. And even though I certainly recognized the talent of the man, personally, I didn't 'get' it yet. Ratatouille might be his first full score I really loved, and ROAR! is an absolutely great piece of music, but with Star Trek, I'm truly looking forward to his next score (outside of Pixar, that is, 'cause Ratatouille already got me excited for Up).

    Even though my fondness of the Star Trek universe doesn't go any further then watching the Generations tv-show when I was a kid (and didn't like it ever since I was... 12?), I thorougly enjoyed Giacchino's rich music, lush orchestrations (a breath of fresh air after Wolverine, my previous review-listen) and great presentation on album. Whats more, the horn in the final 20 seconds of the end credits suite just gave me goosebumps: yeah! That's the Star Trek theme I knew and grew up on! A lovely little bonus.

    However, my only quible is something Martijn also pointed out; it lacks a fully fleshed out theme. The one that's set up as the 'main theme' right from the opening (and is, frankly, repeated a little too often), sits between a theme and a motive; neither one nor the other. But I probably see what Giacchino did here; it's, of course, a year-one story, so the whole score leads up to the Alexander Courage theme, which is the first time we really hear full thematics. It's what Arnold also did with Casino Royale, basically.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    ^ Nice! I love the Giacchino score as well; i think people are (logically and expected, but still unfairly) harsh on Giacchino, unavoidably comparing it with the musical universe of Star Trek's past. But factually, Giacchino's music (for star trek as well) is at least one a step ahead of the rest and the orchestrations, thematic development and arrangements as well as the coherence and whole nature of the lot, show just that. Glad you enjoyed it.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    I'm really enjoying it as well. A bold deviation from the regular Trek music by Giacchino, and I appreciate it! Really like his new theme.
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    I think people are (logically and expected, but still unfairly) harsh on Giacchino, unavoidably comparing it with the musical universe of Star Trek's past.


    Well, every new score in a franchise that has a past is compared to that past, and as such, it's impossible to write a score without a harsh backlash. But Giacchino did exactly what he had to do; he pays hommage to the legacy and presents a fresh sound which incorporates his own signature style. And in placing that style next to the sound of the great composers that went before him, it shows he can place himself into the realm of the Great Ones. Well, as a young talent that is still expanding his universe, that is. But an exciting one, for sure!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    BobdH wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    I think people are (logically and expected, but still unfairly) harsh on Giacchino, unavoidably comparing it with the musical universe of Star Trek's past.


    Well, every new score in a franchise that has a past is compared to that past, and as such, it's impossible to write a score without a harsh backlash. But Giacchino did exactly what he had to do; he pays hommage to the legacy and presents a fresh sound which incorporates his own signature style. And in placing that style next to the sound of the great composers that went before him, it shows he can place himself into the realm of the Great Ones. Well, as a young talent that is still expanding his universe, that is. But an exciting one, for sure!


    Exactly. And i am sure you agree that from the younger generation of composers, Giacchino is one of the very few who could have accomplished that in 2009's film music.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009 edited
    I'm thoroughly enjoying it but I wouldn't say it has great album presentation in the slightest though. It's got virtually no structure, and leaves me cold, just like Bolt did last year. Let's hope some sort of FYC promo comes out or something...

    I'm not familiar with the old scores at all, so I'm viewing this purely from a Giacchino fan perspective, and I can say the man is capable of much better. Let's hope LOTL and Up are breaths of fresh air, as the only new things I've heard this year - Lost season 5 and Star Trek - have not been of the regular Giacchino standard. sad
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    Something Wicked This Way Comes - James Horner

    Boy, Horner could do no wrong in this phase of his career. This is just brilliant.
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    Anthony wrote
    I'm thoroughly enjoying it but I wouldn't say it has great album presentation in the slightest though. It's got virtually no structure, and leaves me cold, just like Bolt did last year. Let's hope some sort of FYC promo comes out or something...


    It's a lot better then previous Giacchino album presentations, for sure, and I'm lookin at the 'let's throw a lot of short tracks after each other' releases of LOST and M:I-III, which made them so hard for me to thoroughly enjoy. I very much prefer this presentation, which marks, hopefully, a new style for Varese, after they did the same with Wolverine for example. They went from too-short releases to over-long releases, and now hopefully, middle ground: the just-fine releases.
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    Exactly. And i am sure you agree that from the younger generation of composers, Giacchino is one of the very few who could have accomplished that in 2009's film music.


    Well, I'm glad there's among the young crowd someone who understands the 'old fashioned' way of orchestrating and composing to keep that musical style alive, but I refuse to rate that higher then someone like Thomas Newman (is he a 'newer generation' composer?), Antonio Pinto or Javier Navarrete, who find new ways of orchestrating music and experiments with different sounds. I do agree he is one of the most interesting new talents in the bizz.
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    God I can't wait until I can start buying CDs again. spin
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Bregje wrote
    Apparently this is the original version? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
    Has anyone else heard this? Is it very well known? Do you have it perhaps?

    I really prefer the brass version. It's heartachingly beautiful!
    I just read it's arranged by Peter Graham and I hope I can buy it somewhere.


    It's a really lovely piece of music but the celtic sound was at odds with the holocaust images.

    I've never heard it before Bregje but it certainly got my interest.

    Thanks for your reply Timmer. Yeah, that video was the only way to post a clip of the music.
    It does sound celtic with that violin and it fits the lord of the dance it was written for I guess.

    What did you think of the brass version? That was the first one I heard and I was surprised to find out what it was originally written for and what the original sounds like. What I mean is, I had no idea it was something Celtic. All I thought was 'I need to find this!!'.

    And my question still is: where can I buy / download this brass version? I'm still looking myself.