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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Southall wrote
Something Wicked This Way Comes - James Horner
Boy, Horner could do no wrong in this phase of his career. This is just brilliant.
Agreed!
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- CommentAuthorMiya
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
NP: Beauty And The Beast - Alan Menken
The Little Mermaid = his best song (Part Of Your World)
Beauty And The Beast = his best score (Transformation)
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- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Miya wrote
NP: Beauty And The Beast - Alan Menken
The Little Mermaid = his best song (Part Of Your World)
Beauty And The Beast = his best score (Transformation)

I love them both! But Aladdin remains my all time Menken favourite
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- CommentAuthorMiya
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
I liked Aladdin... but I lost it when my old harddisk crashed
Must get it again
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- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Aladdin was actually the second soundtrack album I ever got (first being you-know-what
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- CommentAuthorMiya
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
And that movie was my absolute favorite until ___ ____ ____ came out
NP: Lilo & Stitch - Alan Silvestri
One more Disney, by another Alan
Really good movie with very good score, and fun songs!Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Star Trek Michael Giacchino
There's very little 'meat' to it, there's no sense of storytelling to this score, just a bunch of action cues with pretty much the same theme repeated throughout (with a few variations here and there). An enjoyable theme for sure, but not Trek-worthy in my opinion. (But then, to be fair, the film itself is such a departure from past Trek films, I'm not surprised with the score Giacchino wrote.)
As well as a lack of narrative in the music, the score is also lacking in a sense of awe and grandeur that any good space adventure score should have. That's the most disappointing thing for me, as I was hoping for some proper sci-fi music from Giacchino.
Having said all that, I still find this to be a very exciting score and an enjoyable listen on album. (This is pretty much the love child of MI3 and Speed Racer.) -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
"lacking in sense of awe and grandeur"....."just a bunch of action cues"......
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorScribe
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Timmer wrote
"lacking in sense of awe and grandeur"....."just a bunch of action cues"......
Your tears inspire me to disagree with those judgments...
"Lacking in sense of awe and grandeur"....I don't see how anyone could say that the climactic action cue "Nero Death Experience" is lacking any such thing. It's quite possibly the most epic film cue that Giacchino has done so far, and it works in the film too. Not only that, but the oft-commented-on "Enterprising Young Men" as well as the entire end credits cue are full to the brim with grandeur. The choral renditions of the Courage theme are simply incredible
As far as "just a bunch of action cues"... going through the album in order I count...
Suspense: 3 (Star Trek, Nice To Meld You, Does It Still McFly?)
Drama / Emotion: 6 (Labor of Love, Hella Bar Talk, Enterprising Young Men, That New Car Smell, To Boldly Go, End Credits)
Action: 6 (Nailin the Kelvin, Nero Sighted, Run and Shoot Offense, Nero Death Experience, Nero Fiddles / Narada Burns, Back from Black)
Even if you disagree with some of my categorizations, it really cannot be said that this score is just a bunch of action cues...I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009 edited
It may not literally be a bunch of action cues, but that's what it feels like. Wouldn't have said it if it didn't.
And I can think of far more epic scores than this one. It just doesn't do the vastness of space justice - a requisite of any good space adventure score IMO. -
- CommentAuthorScribe
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Steven wrote
It may not literally be a bunch of action cues, but that's what it feels like. Wouldn't have said it if it didn't.
But now your words will make it feel that way to me too, and I don't want it to feel that way. People's opinions have too much effect on my own...
i should just stop reading this message board then, right?
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Well, don't let anyone tell you differently if you think something else Matt...I certainly don't want you to leave the board. I'm only more than likely to agree with Steven's opinion because his taste in Trek scores tends to mirror my own.
I'll still be getting the score and making and giving my own opinion soon.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorScribe
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009 edited
Timmer wrote
Well, don't let anyone tell you differently if you think something else Matt...I certainly don't want you to leave the board. I'm only more than likely to agree with Steven's opinion because his taste in Trek scores tends to mirror my own.
I'll still be getting the score and making and giving my own opinion soon.
Oh I am not actually thinking of leaving the board...just meant to point out the obvious fact that if I really wanted to form my opinions in vacuum, then that is what I would have to do...but I can't and wouldn't want to...I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
franz_conrad wrote
Thomas Glorieux wrote
Steven wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Steven wrote
The New World James Horner
Because I have a headache. (Exams and coursework.
)
Ah; i love that outside the movie! Very smooth and soothing listening experience on CD.
Good luck with the exams!
As much as this pains me to admit, I also love the song.
I love the song too, don't worry you're not alone
Where are the manly men of yore?
wanking aplentywaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
NP:Angels and demons (Zimmer)
Action 4 : 160 bpm, Air, Fire, Black Smoke
Drama / epic 4 : Science and religion, Inmolation, Election by adoration, 503
Suspense 3: God Particle, Air, Fire.
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- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Nautilus wrote
NP:Angels and demons (Zimmer)
Action 4 : 160 bpm, Air, Fire, Black Smoke
Drama / epic 4 : Science and religion, Inmolation, Election by adoration, 503
Suspense 3: God Particle, Air, Fire.

I assume everyone will be happy when I post both Zimmer Codes tomorrow as new reviews?waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009 edited
Wow, that's totally not boring at all the way you keep going on about the same score! It's actually very interesting and I love reading your thoughts about it each and every time.
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- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Steven wrote
Wow, that's totally not boring at all the way you keep going on about the same score! It's actually very interesting and I love reading your thoughts about it each and every time.

do I sense a tone of sarcasm there?
waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009 edited
No, just wanking aplenty at Jordi. -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Steven wrote
No, just wanking aplenty at Jordi.
ah, you're forgiven thenwaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Really? We should hang out. -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Steven wrote
Really? We should hang out.
I'll think about itwaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Scribe wrote
I don't see how anyone could say that the climactic action cue "Nero Death Experience" is lacking any such thing. It's quite possibly the most epic film cue that Giacchino has done so far
That's the problem - he's clearly shown he can do much better on TV scores. TV! -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
NP: PHOEBOE IN WONDERLAND -- Christophe Beck
Apparently, the music of the trailer was of the actual score
quite nice albeit nothing truly specialwaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009 edited
Steven wrote
No, just wanking aplenty at Jordi.
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- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Anthony wrote
Scribe wrote
I don't see how anyone could say that the climactic action cue "Nero Death Experience" is lacking any such thing. It's quite possibly the most epic film cue that Giacchino has done so far
That's the problem - he's clearly shown he can do much better on TV scores. TV!
Star Trek isn't brilliant, but it's better than any of his tv scores, surely? -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Southall wrote
Anthony wrote
Scribe wrote
I don't see how anyone could say that the climactic action cue "Nero Death Experience" is lacking any such thing. It's quite possibly the most epic film cue that Giacchino has done so far
That's the problem - he's clearly shown he can do much better on TV scores. TV!
Star Trek isn't brilliant, but it's better than any of his tv scores, surely?
are you sure about that? I can see a 3 stars review.
And...about angels and demons, james? -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Steven wrote
Wow, that's totally not boring at all the way you keep going on about the same score! It's actually very interesting and I love reading your thoughts about it each and every time.

I wholeheartedly agree, there's just not enough mention of A&D and surely James Southall's review is long overdue....when it comes we'll all be wanking a plenty.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
NP : NIGHTWING - Henry Mancini
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Nautilus wrote
Southall wrote
Anthony wrote
Scribe wrote
I don't see how anyone could say that the climactic action cue "Nero Death Experience" is lacking any such thing. It's quite possibly the most epic film cue that Giacchino has done so far
That's the problem - he's clearly shown he can do much better on TV scores. TV!
Star Trek isn't brilliant, but it's better than any of his tv scores, surely?
are you sure about that? I can see a 3 stars review.
And...about angels and demons, james?
I won't be doing Star Trek till I see the film. As an album, I like it, but it's a low-to-midranking effort in a series which has benefited from two of the all-time-great film scores and a couple of others which are first-rate.
As for Angels and Demons, I won't be seeing the film, but I've only listened to it once so it will take a lot more listens before I can really pass judgment. On that first listen it sounded quite entertaining, but a big disappointment after Da Vinci Code. It's so unbelievably simplistic and cheap-sounding, I assume Hans probably wrote it himself.
