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- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
Southall wrote
It's so unbelievably simplistic and cheap-sounding, I assume Hans probably wrote it himself.
it's smplistic but not so simplistic that it seems.
seriously.
And it's not so cheap, by far, than Spirit or The Last Samurai action track. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Timmer wrote
NP : NIGHTWING - Henry Mancini

And I played it a second time straight after. James, have you got this yet?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Nautilus wrote
Southall wrote
It's so unbelievably simplistic and cheap-sounding, I assume Hans probably wrote it himself.
it's smplistic but not so simplistic that it seems.
seriously.
And it's not so cheap, by far, than Spirit or The Last Samurai action track.
Some of the synths sound like they were bought in 1989! -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Timmer wrote
Timmer wrote
NP : NIGHTWING - Henry Mancini

And I played it a second time straight after. James, have you got this yet?
Yes indeed. Very good, as expected for this excellent composer. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Southall wrote
Nautilus wrote
Southall wrote
It's so unbelievably simplistic and cheap-sounding, I assume Hans probably wrote it himself.
it's smplistic but not so simplistic that it seems.
seriously.
And it's not so cheap, by far, than Spirit or The Last Samurai action track.
Some of the synths sound like they were bought in 1989!
I wouldn't be amazed if he used his old Moog or Fairlight. He admits to having used his old Moog on Da Vinci Code.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Southall wrote
Nautilus wrote
Southall wrote
It's so unbelievably simplistic and cheap-sounding, I assume Hans probably wrote it himself.
it's smplistic but not so simplistic that it seems.
seriously.
And it's not so cheap, by far, than Spirit or The Last Samurai action track.
Some of the synths sound like they were bought in 1989!
Only in the first track!!!! and in a few little moments in "Air". The rest is chorus, bells, string and electronics playing as electronics
NP:A Dark Knight VS Science and religion
A marathon of Zimmer hight tech adaggios.
I'm so happy Zimmer uses again his old techno synthetiser in this 2 scores!!! it's mind blowing! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Southall wrote
Timmer wrote
Timmer wrote
NP : NIGHTWING - Henry Mancini

And I played it a second time straight after. James, have you got this yet?
Yes indeed. Very good, as expected for this excellent composer.
Glad to hear you finally got it
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Nautilus wrote
NP:A Dark Knight VS Science and religion
A marathon of Zimmer hight tech adaggios.
Good description
Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAtham
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Something Wicked This Way Comes - James Horner
Classic Horner!
So rich. So dark. Got to be good for you!
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- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009 edited
OMarselus wrote
Nautilus wrote
NP:A Dark Knight VS Science and religion
A marathon of Zimmer hight tech adaggios.
Good description
Of course, It was me.
Now playing and watching :Ubeda 07 concert.
Wow, a lot of my All time favurite scores here: Lair, Cuttroat island, Stargate,Casino Royale, x3, Chiken Run....Alastriste,wich is A PURE ORGASMATROOOOOOOOOOON! I can believe I was thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...fu_cking AWESOME!
PS:i remember Cutthtoat island, x3 and My name is Bond played very badly, but in fact it's quite good. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Southall wrote
Anthony wrote
Scribe wrote
I don't see how anyone could say that the climactic action cue "Nero Death Experience" is lacking any such thing. It's quite possibly the most epic film cue that Giacchino has done so far
That's the problem - he's clearly shown he can do much better on TV scores. TV!
Star Trek isn't brilliant, but it's better than any of his tv scores, surely?
Not sure about that one. He's had so long to flesh out ideas and themes in Lost it would be a little unfair to say Star Trek is better simply because it's a film score.
Personally I prefer his music to Lost than Star Trek - but then I have to ask myself would I feel the same about the music if it was simply placed in Lost? (Having no prior memory it was from Star Trek.) This is the thing with shows, they're an episodic affair and therefore more likely to become more personal and involving than one film (especially a film like Star Trek). So I'm biased, I admit. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Steven wrote
Southall wrote
Anthony wrote
Scribe wrote
I don't see how anyone could say that the climactic action cue "Nero Death Experience" is lacking any such thing. It's quite possibly the most epic film cue that Giacchino has done so far
That's the problem - he's clearly shown he can do much better on TV scores. TV!
Star Trek isn't brilliant, but it's better than any of his tv scores, surely?
Not sure about that one. He's had so long to flesh out ideas and themes in Lost it would be a little unfair to say Star Trek is better simply because it's a film score.
Personally I prefer his music to Lost than Star Trek - but then I have to ask myself would I feel the same about the music if it was simply placed in Lost? (Having no prior memory it was from Star Trek.) This is the thing with shows, they're an episodic affair and therefore more likely to become more personal and involving than one film (especially a film like Star Trek). So I'm biased, I admit.
Of course, everyone's different, but my take on this is that I've watched 80-odd episodes of Lost and listened to (what seems like) 80 hours of a somewhat limited range of music in the various CD releases there have been. So yes, I'm very familiar with the music. But it's worth remembering that he writes the score for an episode of Lost in one evening and records it the next day. Contrast that with Star Trek where each two-minute piece would take longer than that - and so it's not surprising that Star Trek comes out as the more musically and dramatically vibrant experience for me. The music in Lost is wonderful for tv, but those two words "for tv" are key - the application of repeating ideas and such a singular musical vision are admirable and are what sets it apart, but you don't get close to the dramatic effect that a half-decent film score can have. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
American Journey John Williams
An instant fix of pure popular-Williams brassy goodness. Great music, great performances (unsurprisingly for a John Williams score/album) and a punchy recordings. Love it. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
NP: Angels and Demons - Hans Zimmer
First listen... somebody likes Tubular Bells.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Angels and Demons - Hans Zimmer
First listen... somebody likes Tubular Bells.
-Erik-
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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Angels and Demons - Hans Zimmer
First listen... somebody likes Tubular Bells.
-Erik-
You noticed that too, eh?

I still like the score (which I would describe as "MV Gothic", a I already stated in the appropriate thread), though.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Angels and Demons - Hans Zimmer
First listen... somebody likes Tubular Bells.
-Erik-
Do you mean the instrument ( aka Chimes ) or a liking for Mike Oldfield?
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Gothic + Tubular Bells.
Take a wild guess, Timmer.
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009 edited
NP:Quantum of Solace (Arnold)
I love this score!!
It's a fresh stuff comming from Arnold, without losing his own voice.
I love the rythms, the textures, and the motifs!!! (I don't want call them, themes) -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Martijn wrote
Gothic + Tubular Bells.
Take a wild guess, Timmer.
Enlighten me!?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Timmer wrote
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Angels and Demons - Hans Zimmer
First listen... somebody likes Tubular Bells.
-Erik-
Do you mean the instrument ( aka Chimes ) or a liking for Mike Oldfield?
Now that I think of it - both
http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Angels and Demons - Hans Zimmer
First listen... somebody likes Tubular Bells.
-Erik-
Not a bad album - it goes by quite quickly It's good score especially that scintillating cello solo of "Chevaliers De Sangreal" in the track 503. I'll need to give the score another spin however and really pay attention but the Science vs Religion / Synth vs Live Players story doesn't really come through in the music. They don't really play against each other - minus the first track which is an interesting mix of Tubular Bell meets The Dark Knight meets Gothic choir. I haven't read the book so - no spoilers please - so I'm not sure if the devices are suppose to compliment each other or play against each other.
Anyway, fine album and one I will return to soon for a more attentive listen.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
PawelStroinski wrote
Timmer wrote
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Angels and Demons - Hans Zimmer
First listen... somebody likes Tubular Bells.
-Erik-
Do you mean the instrument ( aka Chimes ) or a liking for Mike Oldfield?
Now that I think of it - both
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Angels and Demons - Hans Zimmer
First listen... somebody likes Tubular Bells.
-Erik-
Not a bad album - it goes by quite quickly It's good score especially that scintillating cello solo of "Chevaliers De Sangreal" in the track 503. I'll need to give the score another spin however and really pay attention but the Science vs Religion / Synth vs Live Players story doesn't really come through in the music. They don't really play against each other - minus the first track which is an interesting mix of Tubular Bell meets The Dark Knight meets Gothic choir. I haven't read the book so - no spoilers please - so I'm not sure if the devices are suppose to compliment each other or play against each other.
Anyway, fine album and one I will return to soon for a more attentive listen.
-Erik-
I have to admit I´m quite surprised of your reaction to the score. I really thought you´d have ran out of buckets with this one. Actually I´m twice surprised, as Clemmensen himself has rated it with four stars.
Not so surprised to see Southall didn´t like it though
Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Yeah, but James is old, conservative and stuck in his ways.
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
Actually.... you are right!
Oh, and "MV Gothic"? Love it.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
The kind of ostinato that defines the beginning of Tubular Bells Part One (the most known part that is) and Zimmer tends to use the instrument a lot, but that's a staple of his style, actually.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009 edited
Erik Woods wrote
but the Science vs Religion / Synth vs Live Players story doesn't really come through in the music. They don't really play against each other -
-Erik-
Well, I'm not sure if it's Science Vs Religion or..Science completes Religion. I didn't finish the book so I can't say this for sure.
The first fourth minutes in "science and Religion" the violin is the first instrument and the synth makes the atmosphere, from 4:00 to 8:00 synth is the main instrument and violin is just a counterpoint.
One completes the another.
Anyway, it's not Zimmer best "adaggio". I prefer "a Dark Knight", but it's quite mind blowing and beautiful, specially the last chorus ( sampled or not) wich makes a sense of "heaven".
The only "fight" I see here is in 160 bpm : female chorus (angels?) Vs male Chorus ( Demons) -or perhaps women are the devils...
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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
No, I think we've firmly establised earlier that women were awesome.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
I am totally addicted to the Science And Religion track. Bowled over by that haunting yet beautiful violin!
