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Those cliques' goal is to kill the Euro. The plan's going all well up until now it seems.

Stavi, it's not just the politician's fault.

Modern Greeks have been looking out for themselves alone all these years, caring only for our asses, stealing whatever we could from the government and from the human next to us, working as little as we could and dreaming of a career in the government so we could rest our asses on a permanent and steady salary without actually being productive, and electing blindly, based on idiotic political parties' following which stemmed down to us from our fathers and mothers like genes, without researching who we elected into the government, if they deserve it or not; this resulted in a series of corrupted governments running the country and eventually destroying all its goods and ex-wealth.

Every nation has the leadership they deserve. Our own selves is what's reflected in the faces of the corrupted governments we elected all these years. It's a lot easier for ourselves if we continue to blame someone else all the time for all our problems (trademarked neo-Greek behavior) but the time (and events show it) has come to actually sit down and judge ourselves.

I am not targeting you or your family Stavi, my mother is also a teacher and works for the government too and so does my sister and many of my relatives. But there's a lot of people here (the majority is, actually) who just want to get into a permanent position in the government so they can lay on their asses, work less without worrying about proving themselves to any boss and / or being continuously tested with the risk of getting fired etc etc. In Greece, this is the majority of the cases, to βόλεμα στο δημόσιο που λέμε, you know this is the case with most people, especially in large urban areas, like Thessaloniki and Athens for instance. Most modern Greeks have been cheating continuously towards the irs and taxes, stealing the person next to them and the government, and you know that political polarizing and voting a worthless party just because our parents did too, is also a norm here. Don't forget that after 1974, no government has taken their place via militaristic means or force, but it was elected by people who have been voting for them and placing them there. I am not saying we are to blame alone, but they are not to blame alone either. Don't look at the extremes, there's always the middle ground, the realism, and we are to blame too for our own situation.

At large, yes.
And this -as per usual- is the real tragedy: it's the people who made the carefully considered choices, the people who want to make a difference, the people who want to contribute to society, in short, the GOOD people who now get it right up to ass due to a number of lazy, easy-way-out, nepotist, semi-corrupt lackeys.

In that sense D. is very right (and indeed I fully agree with his analyses): the system should take a very long, hard look at itself how things got to this point. But of course that would include looking in the mirror, something no society enjoys.
And so it's easier to use to big brush to paint all civil servants as lazy and corrupt, and for anarchists and communists to blame the Euro and Germany.

Fingerpointing is such a beloved tool.

Tell THEM what you're telling US.
"Study. Pass your exams. CONTRIBUTE. MAKE A DIFFERENCE. REFUSE THE OLD WAYS. REFUSE THE DESTRUCTION.
You want change?
It starts RIGHT HERE. With yourself.
YOU are the ones who will need to make it happen.
The old ways have failed and are failing still.
Do not kling to the past. Learn from it.
Don't push out the new. Investigate it.
And do no harm.
DO.
NO.
HARM."

That's the only message there is to convey right now.
If YOU give in to cynicism or despair (however understandable), what will your students do?
Be to them what you are to us, and to yourself.
This is a time to rise above yourselves, if Greece is to regain its dignity, its honour and its worth.

Whoaw boy down! I've said that long before you tell me to! And even if I'm cynical or in despair it's when I'm in my won house and not when I have to do with the future which has been entrusted to me, so no need to tell me, in a good way always, what to do. (Between you and me, I don't like that since I were I child )

And I'm really, really good at getting angry when they tell me what to do!

Yeah, there's the rub.
Although I'm really, really good, nobody ever actually listens to me.

It's the tragedy of my young life.

^ Turns out that was a computer / employee error; somebody lost his job...oh oh

A friend of mine (with an MA in the field) defined economy simply as social psychology.

Debts, and which countries are in trouble. Who's at the top? Surprise! Who follows? See for yourselves.

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Congrats to Australia btw.

Gordon Brown resigns and David Cameron takes office as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ … 675265.stm

I actually hope people make a more rational assessment of Gordon Brown now - the demonising of him has been ridiculous.



Well I'll just say that our only hope now is that Gordon Brown had the foresight to leave a bear-trap behind the door of No. 10.

I'm not too keen on Conservatives either. Liberal Democrats first, then Labour, then Tories. But I was really just talking about charisma and "political presence" on the international scene, which is what I - as a non-Brit - have to go by in my assessment.

I'd like to torch the whole fucking nest.

Tories are back! Yay!
Cameron hasn't a sixth of the charisma Thatcher had, but that's still almost fourteen times as much as Major.
Finally, everything is going to come up roses again!
For a start I suggest declaring war on France.


...what? Is my reactionary side showing?