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- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeJan 24th 2013 edited
Erik Woods wrote
Why? How was the use of rap any different then the use of Goldsmith's "Nicaragua" from Under Fire? You know a film score that was written for a film that takes place in Nicaragua!
-Erik-
I disliked the rap music, but I don't really mind it being out of place. This was a rather crazy movie, cartoonish in places, so I don't expect realism.
I can understand D though, in that rap music is a modern phenonemon with very specific connotations, while instrumental music is often more universal, even though Goldsmith did use some instrumentation pointing towards South/Middle America, making it seem a little out of place too.
It's all to do with how used we are to hearing the type of music in a particular setting. If it had been tradition to play rap music in westerns, we'd all find it weird to hear anything else.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 24th 2013
to be fair, pan pipes had no place in a score set in Nicaragua
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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 24th 2013
plindboe wrote
It's all to do with how used we are to hearing the type of music in a particular setting. If it had been tradition to play rap music in westerns, we'd all find it weird to hear anything else.
It might seem weird but it's not out of place. But then again, I'm sure Morricone might have received some back lash with his use of electric guitars and operatic vocals in his Spagetti Westerns. But now those are "western staples."
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 24th 2013
Erik Woods wrote
plindboe wrote
It's all to do with how used we are to hearing the type of music in a particular setting. If it had been tradition to play rap music in westerns, we'd all find it weird to hear anything else.
It might seem weird but it's not out of place. But then again, I'm sure Morricone might have received some back lash with his use of electric guitars and operatic vocals in his Spagetti Westerns. But now those are "western staples."
-Erik-
If all film composers had kept it authentic to time periods and locales this board would be a pretty barren place.
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- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
Timmer wrote
to be fair, pan pipes had no place in a score set in Nicaragua
Yes, to be fair to the maligned rapper, that piece is about as Nicaraguan as the government the United States propped up for so long.
The reason people wouldn't like rap in such a scene, is that they're not used to it. They're not used to it, because film music often: (i) avoids popular music so as to not summon up contemporary associations; (ii) avoids popular black music in particular (ouch) unless it's a contemporary black story. The film world would be a freer place if arbitrary genre rules didn't educate an audience to hate the things that go for something a bit different.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
franz_conrad wrote
Timmer wrote
to be fair, pan pipes had no place in a score set in Nicaragua
Yes, to be fair to the maligned rapper, that piece is about as Nicaraguan as the government the United States propped up for so long.
The reason people wouldn't like rap in such a scene, is that they're not used to it. They're not used to it, because film music often: (i) avoids popular music so as to not summon up contemporary associations; (ii) avoids popular black music in particular (ouch) unless it's a contemporary black story. The film world would be a freer place if arbitrary genre rules didn't educate an audience to hate the things that go for something a bit different.
Agreed. Conventions are great now and then, but I love it when people break them.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
I support breaking conventions. But preferentially with enjoyable music. I've never been able to rap my head around rap. It seems to be almost entirely about image and coolness than about melody. Being a melody-nut, it's just not for me. But if others enjoy it, knock yourselves out.
Usually I dislike songs in movies of all other genres as well, though there are notable exceptions where a song in a movie works to perfection.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013 edited
plindboe wrote
I support breaking conventions. But preferentially with enjoyable music. I've never been able to rap my head around rap. It seems to be almost entirely about image and coolness than about melody. Being a melody-nut, it's just not for me. But if others enjoy it, knock yourselves out.
Modern day hip-hop is pure shit nowadays. Go back to the late-80's early 90's to find some of best from the genre. Big creativity and genuine poetry. I'm a melody person myself but almost nothing kicks more ass then hearing a strong, thumping back beat. As you can probably tell I was a pretty big hip-hop fan back in the days and still listen to the good stuff now and then.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
I remember liking that Regulate song when it came out. Nice melodic base, and not the pointless aggression heard in what seems to be all rap music today. Not that aggression can't be utilized to good effect in some music, but there has got to be something more than people screaming about hos and guns.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013 edited
Erik Woods wrote
Demetris wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Demetris wrote
The hip hop was hideous and laughable, even non film music fans were laughing at the cinema. The movie is brilliant.
I wasn't laughing. I thought Tarantino's musical selections... all of them... were inspired. He, along with Scorsese, are the best at creating "needle-drop scores."
-Erik-
It happened where i was..i found all the music in Django spot-on, the rapping was completely out of place imo.
Why? How was the use of rap any different then the use of Goldsmith's "Nicaragua" from Under Fire? You know a film score that was written for a film that takes place in Nicaragua!
-Erik-
It wasn't just the choice of musical style that bothered me, rather the specific songs; poor and unfitting. And the whole cultural thing associated with this music is something i wouldn't like to see in that movie in specific. There are other movies that get very well together with such music, but ok, Tarantino, we got the oppressed black man rebelling against the white folk piece of shit - we are all pro you and the hero and you've done a marvelous thing so far getting us, the viewers along with you on the ride; we don't need a shitty rap song ontop to further stress the point. It's over-kill and the said pieces aren't the best the genre has to showcase anyway.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
plindboe wrote
I support breaking conventions. But preferentially with enjoyable music. I've never been able to rap my head around rap. It seems to be almost entirely about image and coolness than about melody. Being a melody-nut, it's just not for me. But if others enjoy it, knock yourselves out.
Usually I dislike songs in movies of all other genres as well, though there are notable exceptions where a song in a movie works to perfection.
Peter
For me, I wouldn't stop the appreciation at whether or not I like the actual music. I'm not listening to a CD. In film music, it always depends on HOW it is being used; to what purpose.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
Silver Linings Playbook
Great movie. Great script. Terrific performances. -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
Thor wrote
For me, I wouldn't stop the appreciation at whether or not I like the actual music. I'm not listening to a CD. In film music, it always depends on HOW it is being used; to what purpose.
I understand. I feel the same about most horror and action music for example. What I meant and didn't express properly was when it's really jarring for me to listen to and it ends up destroying the experience because the music annoys me so much it distracts me from the movie. I find that songs very frequently does that to me; I don't know if it's the lyrics or what.
Peter
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- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
plindboe wrote
Thor wrote
For me, I wouldn't stop the appreciation at whether or not I like the actual music. I'm not listening to a CD. In film music, it always depends on HOW it is being used; to what purpose.
I understand. I feel the same about most horror and action music for example. What I meant and didn't express properly was when it's really jarring for me to listen to and it ends up destroying the experience because the music annoys me so much it distracts me from the movie. I find that songs very frequently does that to me; I don't know if it's the lyrics or what.
Peter
That's interesting. Many times, I feel songs work far better than what an instrumental score would. Sure, there may be elements in the lyrics that cement the meaning, but it's more often something with the musical side of the song that does it for me. When it comes to music in films, I don't delineate between songs and score -- I only look at the scene and what the music does to communicate its meaning to me.
Imagine THE GRADUATE without the Simon & Garfunkel songs and just an instrumental score instead. Wouldn't be quite the same.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 25th 2013
I agree with Thor. It's simple for me it either works or it doesn't, it's all subjective.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Argo
Fantastic, on all levels. A little light on character development but makes up for it with knuckle-biting tension. Desplat's score is fine but not Oscar worthy. -
- CommentAuthorBobdH
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Weren't you annoyed by the coincidence upon coincidence upon coincidence of the final (fictional) act? -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
BobdH wrote
Weren't you annoyed by the coincidence upon coincidence upon coincidence of the final (fictional) act?
Nah. I was too caught up in the situation. -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Bait 3D
a tsunami destroys Australia and leaves a couple of sharks in the midst of a flooded supermarket. Actually this made me attract the film in the first place, and I knew I wasn't gonna get something of high value. Though the acting is pretty low standard, I enjoyed myself. But the effects are downright hideous. The sharks are okay but several shots are downright appalling. Note to the director or producer, if you can't deliver a shot of a destroyed city, then don't show it. That last minute was not B-material but -F material, fuck me
5 out of 10
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Cockneys vs Zombies.
Now this is more like it. A British zombie movie that of course lured me in by saying 'if you enjoyed Shaun of the Dead, you'll love this one'. Honestly, it's not of the same high standard, and you can see the CGI has to replace the gruesome scenes, but honestly I quite liked it. Several witty scenes and a bunch of typical British laughs keep this one more than afloat. Oh, and don't get me started on Alan Ford, who's downright hilarious. If you fancy a bunch of F-words coming from a couple of seniors, and a whole lot of gore, you'll love this
still deciding between 6 and 7waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
THE HOBBIT
Loved it! 10/10On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013

Seriously?'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Timmer wrote
THE HOBBIT
Loved it! 10/10
I can understand it, I gave it 9waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
YEAP! I never read the book and don't know the story so had no expectations. thoroughly enjoyed it and the films near 3 hours zipped by for me.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Timmer wrote
THE HOBBIT
Loved it! 10/10
Good man! I adored it too, the second best film of 2012 after PROMETHEUS.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
I thought The Hobbit was HORRIBLE! Prometheus also stunk, too!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Erik Woods wrote
I thought The Hobbit was HORRIBLE! Prometheus also stunk, too!
-Erik-
The important thing to remember, though, is that you are wrong and I am right.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Technically, I suppose The Lord of the Rings trilogy is better... but I think I had more fun watching The Hobbit than any of those films. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Erik Woods wrote
I thought The Hobbit was HORRIBLE! Prometheus also stunk, too!
-Erik-
In a nutshell.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2013
Thor wrote
Erik Woods wrote
I thought The Hobbit was HORRIBLE! Prometheus also stunk, too!
-Erik-
The important thing to remember, though, is that you are wrong and I am right.
Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
