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- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Lo Imposible - Fernando Velazquez
Drop dead gorgeous. Absolutely stunning. A tear jerker. Magnificent!
-Erik-
Sentiments agree. Your choice of words is 100% spot on. Score of the year for me as I have been melting the promo and cannot wait for my signed cd to arrive !Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012 edited
Where does one obtain signed CDs of this??
*looks on label's website*
Oh. One doesn't.I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
It was a limited edition thingy first some-dozens cd's signed thing i recall?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
NP: Black Rain - Hans Zimmer
One of the most headache-inducing bunch of tracks I have heard in a long time. I think that I can safely say that I hated almost all of this. The only track I could really listen to was the source cue composed by Shirley Walker.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
FalkirkBairn wrote
NP: Black Rain - Hans Zimmer
One of the most headache-inducing bunch of tracks I have heard in a long time. I think that I can safely say that I hated almost all of this. The only track I could really listen to was the source cue composed by Shirley Walker.
couldn't agree more. As much as I like Zimmer, his early works are totally dated and pain inducing.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
For real?
BLACK RAIN is a gobsmackingly beautiful and powerful score for a highly underrated film. Still haven't bought the expansion, however (I probably will in due time; it's a money question). It's easily in my Top 10 Zimmer list.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
Black Rain is my favourite early Zimmer work, though not for everybody.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
Thor wrote
For real?
BLACK RAIN is a gobsmackingly beautiful and powerful score for a highly underrated film. Still haven't bought the expansion, however (I probably will in due time; it's a money question). It's easily in my Top 10 Zimmer list.
It's lucky to make my bottom 10 Zimmer list I don't like it that much!
It just seems all over the place and I don't like his choice of synths. I don't have much attachment to the film - maybe that has something to do with it too?The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
Have you seen it?
Scott's film did get quite a bit of cult following. It was one of the first movies I watched after I got aware of the name Hans Zimmer.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
I have seen the film many, many years ago. I enjoyed the Japanese aspects of it but that's about it.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 13th 2012
Well, I will admit that the look of the film is basically Blade Runner for Dummies...http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
It is truly awful imo. Score and movie. I could never understand the craze about it; cheap scoring. I'd take Inception over it a thousand times, for instance. Must have some historic sentimental value for Zimmer fans or something, otherwise i cannot explain the love for it.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
Well, it does have one of his very best themes, early attempt at sound design, a lot of people became a fan after hearing the early works (don't underestimate the power of the people who are fans of his early works and often they were fans of other composers as well, Rain Man - which I don't like - Black Rain were those that put Zimmer on the map, Rain Man was of course Oscar-nominated).
If you listen to this score in proper sound quality, you will actually hear things later expanded on in Inception. Funnily enough, possibly the biggest influence of Black Rain on Inception is now regarded as a David Arnold rip-off.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012 edited
Demetris wrote
It is truly awful imo. Score and movie. I could never understand the craze about it; cheap scoring. I'd take Inception over it a thousand times, for instance. Must have some historic sentimental value for Zimmer fans or something, otherwise i cannot explain the love for it.
Well, that's the thing about taste, isn't it?; it really needs no justification. You dislike it, I love it -- that's the bottom line.
The 'power anthem' style, of which this is really the first, is among my favourite Zimmer sounds, and here he even combines it with my other favourite sound of his, the 'exotic sound'. Combine them and you've got a score that fires on everything I love about Zimmer. And the urban texture it adds to the film.....just pure bliss!I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
(Isn't it more the film adding the urban texture to the music? Ie. When does music mean anything on its own?)A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
When the music has Dwarvish chants commentating on the on-screen events?I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
Scribe wrote
When the music has Dwarvish chants commentating on the on-screen events?
Ie. the language of the words gives it literal meaning. Language is a code -- it gives meaning to phoenetic sounds. Ironically though the chants for most of the audience are 'Dwarvish' not because they understand Dwarvish, but because they've been told they're in a place called Moria which was a dwarf kingdom so the chanting feels like the chanting of... dwarves of legend. Again, the images label the music, not the other way around. The chanting could have been purely sonorous (a la Yared's TROY) and the effect for most of the audience would be equivalent.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
franz_conrad wrote
(Isn't it more the film adding the urban texture to the music? Ie. When does music mean anything on its own?)
To rephrase Claudia Gorbman, I would say that non-representational music -- when applied to representational images -- becomes representational. That's what film music does.
What it conjures for our own inner eye is another discussion altogether. I always try to separate between the two.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012 edited
Thor wrote
franz_conrad wrote
And the urban texture it adds to the film.....just pure bliss!
(Isn't it more the film adding the urban texture to the music? Ie. When does music mean anything on its own?)
To rephrase Claudia Gorbman, I would say that non-representational music -- when applied to representational images -- becomes representational. That's what film music does.
Ie. The film adds its urban texture to the music, rather than the other way around. (Having a few city sounds mixed into the sound design couldn't have hurt either.)A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
Well, 'texture' is a rather composite term, I think, and fully realizable(?) through non-representational means, like music.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
NP : THE WATER HORSE: LEGEND OF THE DEEP - James Newton Howard
A lovely, charming celtic flavoured score.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
Thor wrote
Well, 'texture' is a rather composite term, I think, and fully realizable(?) through non-representational means, like music.
I think through the history of 'urban music', from Copland's 'Quiet City' to Kalhor's 'Silent City' to Eisenga's 'City Lines'... and were it not for the titles of the pieces (which are labels, coded by language), I doubt you could play these things to a cold audience and have them say what they heard described a city.
I'm being pedantic, yes, but I just find it interesting to find a cognitive fallacy even among someone as attuned to the moving parts as yourself.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012 edited
No fallacy....I'm with you regarding music's inability to have representational meaning in and of itself - beyond associations and connotations. But it can most certainly have a texture that adds to a film's mood. An urban texture is not the same as an urban denotation.
See, I can be pedantic too!I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeOct 14th 2012
For a Few Dollars More - Ennio Morricone
Extraordinary. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 15th 2012
Thor wrote
See, I can be pedantic too!
I would never have attacked your credentials in pedantry, believe me.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeOct 15th 2012
What makes a texture urban? Out of genuine curiosity. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 15th 2012
Aha. Someone else is reading.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeOct 15th 2012
Low? Metallic? Dark? Those are all urbanish feelings which can be associated with musical textures.
I'd say the new Dredd score has some pretty "urban" textures, if there is such a thing.I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentTimeOct 15th 2012
Scribe wrote
I'd say the new Dredd score has some pretty "urban" textures...
I'd agree with this statement.
But what that sound is and how to describe it, that's a bit out of my league to do!The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 15th 2012
Southall wrote
For a Few Dollars More - Ennio Morricone
Extraordinary.
someone talking sense, excellent!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt