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- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJun 3rd 2016
His next film is worth seeking out Thor and others if interested which was a Kirk Douglas film called "Ace In The Hole." The score is by Hugo Friedhofer.listen to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 3rd 2016 edited
sdtom wrote
Thor do you remember Buster Keaton playing cards in the waxwork sequence with the silent movie stars? How he got DeMille to be in the film was the carrot of a Cadillac. And von Stroheim, who was the butler was a famous silent director. The Waxman score is a crowning achievement in his career.
I don't remember any plot details, but I remember the photography in certain moments (there's a scene with Gloria Swason descending a staircase, for example) -- very film noir with shadow play, chiarroscuro and other brooding stuff that Wilder did so well in his early years. I should really watch it again after all these years.
I love Waxman's score, but it's not my favourite of his. That will always remain PEYTON PLACE, I think.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJun 3rd 2016
My vote for the best Waxman score is "Rebecca." But overall I enjoy most of his works. "Peyton Place" has a hauntingly pretty theme. I think because the movie was such a turnoff, at least for me, I tend to overlook it. Others that come to mind are "Bride of Frankenstein," and "Taras Bulba." I think his best theme was from the film "A Place in the Sun." The sax solo was so addicting.listen to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJun 3rd 2016
Material that I can talk about for hours but not at FSM and the "basement" experts who have little or no life. Thor is good to talk to.listen to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJun 3rd 2016
I vaguely remember Peyton Place as an imported American soap which my mum loved watching, I remember the theme well. I'm guessing that Fred Steiner adapted Waxman's theme for the TV show?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJun 4th 2016
Timmer there was a movie which I think Thor is talking aboutlisten to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJun 5th 2016 edited
I know that Tom, I was talking about the fact it was turned into a 60's US soap TV show.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJun 12th 2016
Shrek 3
Jeezus, I remembered it being average, but seeing it again, it was actually much worse. How they went from the absolute best (Shrek 2) to the absolute worst is beyond me. Everything about it feels just so uninspired.
I'm glad Shrek Forever After at least redeemed the mistake that is Shrek 3.
5 out of 10waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 12th 2016
Billions
I really enjoyed this tv series with Dominic Lewis and Paul Giamatti - I mean, who doesn't love a tv show set in the financial services industry? Lewis plays a super-rich investment fund manager whose wealth has not come by entirely legitimate means, Giamatti is the prosecutor who is trying desperately to take him down. It does the Sopranos trick very well, giving the "villain" enough likeable features and the "hero" enough murky ones, that you end up not sure which way you want it to go. Twelve episodes felt like enough to tell the complete story and I'm not really sure it needed a second season, which it's going to get, but still - I thought it was the most compelling new tv show in a few years. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 13th 2016
13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi
When Michael Bay's not pissing about with silly CGI metal monsters and annoying female leads, apparently he's capable of making a pretty damn good film. I loved this.
Yes, this was Team America, Fuck Yeah. Yes, I'm sure it took many artistic liberties compared to the true events. But I was on board with all of it. It worked. It got under my skin. Go Team America, as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps recent events fueled my reaction, and I must admit it was satisfying to see Islamic terrorists get decimated, but it still stands as a solid war film. Silly progressive types will hate this. (Double bonus: feminists will hate it too.)
Please, cinema gods, give Michael Bay decent scripts, because he knows how to direct the fuck out of action scenes. -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJun 13th 2016
I started watching Laurel and Hardy last night, "Blockheads" being the first. Hadn't watched them in awhile and was amazed at the good soundtrack it had. Is there anything available on their music.
Tomlisten to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016 edited
sdtom wrote
I started watching Laurel and Hardy last night, "Blockheads" being the first. Hadn't watched them in awhile and was amazed at the good soundtrack it had. Is there anything available on their music.
Tom
I LOVE Laural and Hardy, pure comic genius. I'm not a big fan of slapstick but these two always kill me.
As for the soundtracks I'm sure Alan reviewed something connected some years ago. Alan?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016
Steven wrote
13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi
When Michael Bay's not pissing about with silly CGI metal monsters and annoying female leads, apparently he's capable of making a pretty damn good film. I loved this.
Yes, this was Team America, Fuck Yeah. Yes, I'm sure it took many artistic liberties compared to the true events. But I was on board with all of it. It worked. It got under my skin. Go Team America, as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps recent events fueled my reaction, and I must admit it was satisfying to see Islamic terrorists get decimated, but it still stands as a solid war film. Silly progressive types will hate this. (Double bonus: feminists will hate it too.)
Please, cinema gods, give Michael Bay decent scripts, because he knows how to direct the fuck out of action scenes.
I'm sort of tempted by this film, it's had half decent reviews. I'm no bleeding heart liberal but at the same time I don't like gung-ho American flag waving shite.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016
That being the case, you might hate it -- but one never knows! At the very least, the technical wizardry of Bay's direction (which I've never denied) is very much on display. It looks gorgeous.
Like I said, it's helped enormously by the relative lack of immature humour and CGI (it's used sparingly, especially for a Bay film). -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016 edited
Timmer wrote
I'm sort of tempted by this film, it's had half decent reviews. I'm no bleeding heart liberal but at the same time I don't like gung-ho American flag waving shite.
Few of us Europeans do, unless they're being deliberately 'over-the-top', making a satire out of it, in a way. Wolfgang Petersen has done this, Roland Emmerich has done this, and Michael Bay is one of the greatest to do this in the history of cinema. PAIN & GAIN is probably his most obvious attempt at this, but it's in all his movies, and I'm sure it's in this as well. Looking forward to BENGHAZI immensely (it's in my pile of 'to see soon' films). Michael Bay is GOD!I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016
I'm still not convinced the depiction of American patriotism in ID4 was intended to be satire.Bach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016
Hopefully Alan will get back to us as far as the music is concerned.
Laurel and Hardy are icons in my book too Tim, the best. They could take a simple thing such as hats, exchanging them and by the time they get done you're rolling on the floor in laughter.
Tomlisten to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016 edited
Captain Future wrote
I'm still not convinced the depiction of American patriotism in ID4 was intended to be satire.
I think its satirical aspect is pretty well established by now, if you've heard some of Emmerich's own statements over the years (he's very liberal and often anti-American or at least anti-Republican in his political stance). Leave it to Germans like Petersen and Emmerich to make some of the most deliciously over-the-top, American-patriotic movies in the last 20 years!I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016
Thor wrote
Captain Future wrote
I'm still not convinced the depiction of American patriotism in ID4 was intended to be satire.
I think its satirical aspect is pretty well established by now, if you've heard some of Emmerich's own statements over the years.
It certainly is. But am I being slightly cynical in assuming Bay made such statements about his intentions well after it was clear no audience on earth took the film seriously as a genuine War Of The Worlds kind of invasion thriller, rather than well before?'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016
Martijn wrote
Thor wrote
Captain Future wrote
I'm still not convinced the depiction of American patriotism in ID4 was intended to be satire.
I think its satirical aspect is pretty well established by now, if you've heard some of Emmerich's own statements over the years.
It certainly is. But am I being slightly cynical in assuming Bay made such statements about his intentions well after it was clear no audience on earth took the film seriously as a genuine War Of The Worlds kind of invasion thriller, rather than well before?
You mean Emmerich, right?
No, he's been pretty clear in his approach since at least THE NOAH'S ARK PRINCIPLE (1984), which he made in West Germany at the time.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorLSH
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016 edited
Steven wrote
13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi
Funnily enough, I also watched this the other night and was also pleasantly surprised. It has to be Bay's most understated film yet - like you say, it utilises his best qualities ie. action choreography. Despite keeping the Michael Bay 'polish', there's a raw brutality depicted in this that is lightyears more affecting than anything he's ever done.
A fine film indeed. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016
Thor wrote
You mean Emmerich, right?
I did,
I did.
God, I'm never quite as stupid as when I'm being clever.
No, he's been pretty clear in his approach since at least THE NOAH'S ARK PRINCIPLE (1984), which he made in West Germany at the time.
Fair enough.
I do think he crossed the boundary between satire and cringeworthy, though.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 14th 2016
That's fine. There are different kinds of satire, and not all of it is to everybody's taste.
Here's a great interview where he touches on some of these issues, btw:
http://www.sofilm.co.uk/interview-rolan … te-thievesI am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 15th 2016
Robocop
Hmm, this or The Terminator? This or The Terminator? This or The Terminator?
One of life's greatest questions. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 15th 2016
Score-wise it's a much easier decision. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 16th 2016
Steven wrote
Robocop
Hmm, this or The Terminator? This or The Terminator? This or The Terminator?
One of life's greatest questions.
Really? Terminator every time for me. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJun 16th 2016
No, I agree, damned tough choice there.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 16th 2016
Love both films, although if I had to choose, I'd maybe go for THE TERMINATOR.
As for the scores, I've never really cared for either on album -- although both have smokin' good main themes.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJun 16th 2016 edited
Definitely The Terminator, if only because it has gotten the superior sequel (IMO).
But Verhoeven's Robocop has its strengths too. Has anyone seen the remake, and is that even worth the time?
Score wise I'd put Poledouris' Robocop and Fiedel's T2 Judgment Day on the same high spot, to me they're equally enjoyable, just not in the same way, and then Terminator."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 16th 2016
DreamTheater wrote
But Verhoeven's Robocop has its strengths too. Has anyone seen the remake, and is that even worth the time?
It's OK, but it lacks much of Verhoeven's "edge".I am extremely serious.