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Only Special people that get promos have this score, and for some strange reason this one has not leaked anywhere, yet. Probably because it's so good and it assuages people's egos to hang onto it. I can't think of any other legitimate reason why good stuff is usually kept under wraps and yet crappy promos surface all the time.

Yet another situation in which copyright laws accomplish no particular good, and only prevent more people from enjoying good art. Who is profiting from us not being able to hear Jackman's score? Absolutely no one. Even if it were released someday, whether or not it's available as a promo now has absolutely zero impact on the likelihood that I would buy it if it was released. Senselessness all around.

Yes. And you can't give me a single good reason why you shouldn't, that isn't legal red-tape-style BS. Just my opinion. An opinion that will be fully backed up by my actions when I am a successful artist in my field(s).

It's not available to be bought, so that is utterly irrelevant to this conversation.

So you think the opinions of rabid film music fans...

in other words...the only flipping people who will EVER consistently give money to the film music industry...

are completely irrelevant?

Okay then. Continue on your path. Have fun.

Boy, you're something else.

I didn't say that the opinions of fans don't matter... it's just on this matter it's DOESN'T matter. You have no say as to how Jackman's score to THIS IS THE END should be handled. None whatsoever. It sucks for you that it's not commercially available but just because it's isn't available to purchase doesn't mean I, or the others that got this album from Jackman, are allowed to share it with you.

By the way, I'm a fan of film music and have done more for film music then you ever will, pal!

-Erik-

Moral of the story: Special people shouldn't brag about having scores they know darn well the peons aren't allowed to listen to. Save that for your Special private message boards.

What exactly are you accomplishing by promoting something that no one is allowed to buy? Is this part of some secret viral marketing plot to suddenly unleash the score release upon us all? If so, I don't like that stuff. Just be honest and upfront about things already.



I take no offense and have great respect for you and what you do, but I still think the attitude you exhibit about the technicalities of legality of music availability, is helping kill film music as its own entity. Take that as you will.

Well, we are probably generating more attention about this particular score than if I had just said "yeah man, I heard that illegal promo too". So mission accomplished?



Yes, it makes perfect sense.
It's just that if I had a radio show, I might be a little more lenient towards the idea of said music being secretly shared, because I love sharing things that I love. That's probably why you have a radio show, and I don't

NO!







-Erik-

Indeed, but you've got so many built in extra in that crew of dwarves. You've got to take some artistic license. You could kill half of them and very few people would even notice.

As a final note on the score, I have to say that I find it odd that the best music written for the film is for a character that Jackson invented out of thin air.

You know what... there's a great quote in the first film (not sure if the line is in the book or not) where Peter Jackson basically gives the finger to anyone who questions the fact that he turned this book into three films.

After Gandolf tells of the of tale of Bilbo's Great-Great-Great-Great Uncle Bullroarer Took, Bilbo responds with the following...

Bilbo Baggins: I do believe you made that up.

And Gandolf answers with...

Gandalf: Well, all good stories deserve embellishment.

And that's exactly what Jackson is doing with The Hobbit.

-Erik-

I still think the films are about an hour too long each. A lot could be cut to tighten them up. I mean, the sing orc, troll, goblin, whatever that was in An Unfinished Journey... That's George Lucas Episode I territory right there.

-Erik-

Same here. Love it!

I would like to clarify that when I wrote this, I was referring to the general concept of unreleased score promos being leaked to the fan community, not saying any particular person like Erik should be leaking anything. I probably didn't make that clear. I still maintain that keeping any film score behind bars does not a single person any good; in fact, it does passive harm to a lot of people whose lives could be further enriched by more good music, and probably lessens the potential buzz around the individual composers whose scores are being kept under wraps. Only uninformed men in suits and those who absorb record company propaganda still think that "file sharing" equates to lost sales. Those of us who love film music and possess money are happy to buy every release we can get our grubby paws on, regardless of whether or not it happened to have been leaked as a promo in the past. Just witness the continuous re-releases by the niche labels of older scores that have already been released multiple times in the past, legally or otherwise. Look at Godzilla. Was the success of that glorious LLLR album harmed by there having been a promo of the score many years earlier? Not at all. If anything, the promo helped the eventual album sales, by keeping the score on people's radars, and letting them know it contained music to be treasured, which is especially important when an unpopular film is involved.

So, it is my firm position that leaked promos do not harm eventual album sales. If anything, they help. Possibly quite a bit. How many people are going to rush to buy a complete Armageddon score if it ever comes out, who would have completely forgotten about the stupid thing by now, if not for the leaked, low-sound-quality recording sessions being so easily available, acting as a self-replicating viral ad campaign for the possibility of a future official remastered album?

I have a vision for an ideal world in which all scores would be released, more profit could go to the actual artists, and every possible album configuration from C&C to 30-minute highlight reels would be easily available. It would require everyone being on the same page and getting along and respecting each other...seems a bit too idealistic for now. But I might type something up about it later.