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Braveheart wasn't hilariously bad. Historically inaccurate? Yes. But it was a GREAT movie. Stalingrad on the other hand just looks fooking awful!

-Erik-

PORN.

I can't agree. Howard hasn't written a really good score since The Water Horse. You keep bitching about Silvestri's latest output and rightfully so. Howard is in the same rut. After Earth is not good. Not good at all.

-Erik-

Not even the theme?

Damn. I agree the album stinks, but those last few tracks are some of my favourite from last year!

This is an interesting discussion in the np thread:). We are to the point now where gender discrimination is mostly bias, and it's largely subconscious. When two individuals are equally qualified, a man is more likely to get the job. There is still a bias in society that leads people to believe that a man is more competent in most of the highest paying industries. Even in professions dominated by females, the CEOs are almost all men. Take the novel industry. My wife is a writer. Almost all of the other writers she knows and associates with are female. Nearly every literary agent is female. The overwhelming majority of editors are female. But once you get to the people running the publishing companies (the people making all the money) they're all men almost without exception. In some articles I've read they've said that a big part of the reason for this is aculturation. Take a walk through a toy store. Girl toys encourage them to play with dolls, cook food, dress up, etc. We still, as a society expect females to work in certain industries and males others. How many male flight attendants are there compared to females? Or nurses? Yet the pilots and doctors are male. Of course there are exceptions, but it's been interesting to look at the issue as a father of sons and a daughter. My four year old daughter wanted an airplane for Christmas. Guess how many airplanes you find in the girl's toy aisles. There are none. We don't expect our girls to want to play pilot.

There are probably many other reasons, but I would submit this as one reason that there are not as many female film composers. There are still not as many female composers of any kind of music. It's not because they would be worse at it. It's because we're training them to be the violinists or flautists instead. It's not just the parents, it's the teachers, the friends, the television and film industry, and especially the advertising industry (which plays into every conceivable stereotype). If a young woman aspires to excell in construction management people are surprised. If she wants to be an interior decorator they are not. Even this surprise teaches girls what they are expected to be, although the people acting surprised may not have intended that message.

One very positive acculturating exception is a tv program made by Disney called Doc Mcstuffins. It's about a little girl who plays at being a doctor. Her mother is a real doctor. And the whole family is black. Shortly after the show aired my daughter announced that she wanted to be a doctor.

So to sum up, there is probably a significant difference in opportunity for male and female composers at every step of the process, even if it's a subconscious one. And if there is a significant difference in interest in film scoring between men and women, which I'm sure there is, then it's because society has taught girls that they don't want to be a composer.

Slapped wrist # 1



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..."phew!" No slapped wrist # 3

I agree with Erik. JAWS 2 is by no means a great movie, but compared to 3 and 4, it's a masterpiece!

And why haven't all these female composers sprung out yet, since, well, the beginning of time? This is what we are trying to find out.

You forgot to mention THE ONE track that is really good -- i.e. "The Tail". Beyond that, though, there isn't much to hang on to. Knowing what JNH is capable of, this was quite disappointing, IMO.

Yeap, thanks for the correction

I'd rather listen to Desolation of Smaug again (which I have) than torture myself with After Earth again.

-Erik-

No. ME getting the slapped wrist, not you.

I believe the site has been around for 10 years or more. But the point is that people are having genuine orgasms, unlike the vast majority of porn, where it's fake. The IFM site is the same concept, except it's full bodies and nudity. BeautifulAgony is like the SFW (ish) version. There's even a full nudity male site they tried to make, but hardly anyone subscribed and they had to shut down. What I don't understand is why more porn isn't like that, why do people just want to see generic pretty bodies going through generic animalistic motions? What I want is an emotional or mental connection to another person, even if its virtual. And that "want" is generally considered a more feminine desire. Which goes back to my original point that I'm more of a female soul and a feminist and I think "we" are capable of deeper and more soulfully engaging art. But as Demetris says, it's all a matter of taste.