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- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014 edited
franz_conrad wrote
Thor wrote
I don't know what you guys are smoking. It's a fine film with a fine score. I've never read the book, though, nor do I have any desire to. I've never been one to read a book just because it's popular.
Sorry, can't resist. So your approach to books is quite different to your approach to films and soundtracks then?
I don't think so, no? With films and soundtracks, I "do everything" from popular to narrow. With books, I'm more discerning since it requires more time and effort. I need to have an interest in it beyond general popularity.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Actually yeah, that criticism has no sting. I think I was targeting the high regard you have the lesser work of Spielberg and Ridley Scott (and it seems, Ron Howard), but there's usually a lot more to your 'best of' lists than those.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Well, 'lesser work' is in the eye of the beholder, innit?I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
NP : VERTICAL LIMIT - James Newton Howard
At one time he seemed to do no wrong. This is excellent and what a great theme!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014 edited
^ I love the theme, but I've often found the rest of that score to be underwhelming. A lot of frustratingly short action and suspense tracks that don't really go anywhere. It's a style I wish JNH would return to but out of his crop of action-adventure scores from the 90s and early 2000s, I'd say it's one of his weakest.
NP: Dinotopia - Trevor Jones
My first listen to this gorgeous and sweeping score, though I did see the series recently (
) so I knew what to expect. Jones perhaps relied a bit too much on a limited bag of tricks throughout his career (I'm surprised he isn't called out on that more often the way Horner is) but what excellent tricks they were indeed! A sorely missed composer...and don't tell me he wouldn't fit in in modern Hollywood, I can easily imagine a lot of today's grimdark pictures accompanied by something like Dark City. Erik, was it you that once synched up the Tumbler Chase from Batman Begins with "You Have the Power"? That was fantastic!
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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Edmund Meinerts wrote
Erik, was it you that once synched up the Tumbler Chase from Batman Begins with "You Have the Power"? That was fantastic!
Yup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEeX6xAJxpk
And with Elfman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKo_bobV9xA
And with Chris Young
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIEGvgwjrGk
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
MICHAEL NYMAN - Ravenous
Utterly horrible.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
NP: Signs (2002) - James Newton Howard
Do you know that? You hear a score time and again over the years and you wonder what all the raving is about? And then you hear it once again and all of a sudden the score reveals intself in all its briliance. I just had that kind of epiphany. Wow!
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
It's absolutely brilliant. Compare this with the impersonal and uninspired stuff JNH writes lately.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Demetris wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
Brian Tyler - Battle: Los Angeles
I don't yet know what to make out of this one. The theme is a pure anthem, but one of Tyler's better ones. I don't really react to the temptrackitis well, especially that it seems that for Tyler it's an attempt to take his action sound into a more atmospheric vein. But I like it!
Love it, kick ass and grand.
To be honest, I would like the score a lot better if it had more tracks like Drone (*brilliant* horn writing and dissonance) and a bit less ostinati
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
And if the album was 15-20 minute shorter... though as with Tyler... I know his albums are far too long, but finding tracks I would cut out is quite difficult.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Captain Future wrote
NP: Signs (2002) - James Newton Howard
Do you know that? You hear a score time and again over the years and you wonder what all the raving is about? And then you hear it once again and all of a sudden the score reveals intself in all its briliance. I just had that kind of epiphany. Wow!
Volker
Yeah, I liked it a bit better after my recent play as well (not an epiphany or anything). It somehow manages to command your attention even when it's very low-key and atmospheric. Very effective suspense score.
But...it's still a suspense score, and that's just not the kind of music I enjoy most. So I doubt I'll ever be able to agree with Erik on this one.
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- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014 edited
PawelStroinski wrote
And if the album was 15-20 minute shorter... though as with Tyler... I know his albums are far too long, but finding tracks I would cut out is quite difficult.
The only Tyler score I feel is consistently engaging all the way through and is constantly offering some new ideas with each cue is Eagle Eye. Well...Timeline as well, but that one has a significantly shorter album. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Speaking of which...
Timeline Jerry Goldsmith
Apart from the weird synths (which I actually love), I can't quite fathom how this one got rejected. Relatively standard stuff for Goldsmith at the time, but vastly superior to most modern action scores of today. A true storyteller to the last moment, even with a straight forward action score like this. -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014 edited
With that one, I believe it wasn't really a rejection. Rather, the film was reedited and Goldsmith was unwilling or unable to rewrite his score to match it. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
I know that was the official story (as with Horner / Romeo and Juliet) but I doubt it's really true. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Oh really? Huh, didn't know that! Well, that at least makes more sense.
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- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
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- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Southall wrote
I know that was the official story (as with Horner / Romeo and Juliet) but I doubt it's really true.
Damn. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
I only "doubt" - I don't know. It seems like the sort of thing you would say if you just rejected a score by a legendary film composer dying of cancer, but I guess to be fair it is also the sort of thing you would say if you re-edited the movie and he was unable/unwilling to rescore it. But I vaguely remember someone at FSM syncing Goldsmith's score to the film and it working just fine. -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Well, the film's shite, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of last-minute editing took place. Considering Goldsmith's declining health, I think it's quite likely they approached him, but he simply lacked the strength or energy to pull it off. As Steven says, I can't really think of any other reason they'd reject the score in favor of another one that's fairly similar in style.
I have more doubts about the Romeo and Juliet situation though. -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
I just chanced upon the final sequences of The New World on TV. The utterly beautiful music immediately caused goosebumps and I had to listen to the music again at once. Here's to James Horner!Bach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Steven wrote
Timeline Jerry Goldsmith
Apart from the weird synths (which I actually love), I can't quite fathom how this one got rejected. Relatively standard stuff for Goldsmith at the time, but vastly superior to most modern action scores of today. A true storyteller to the last moment, even with a straight forward action score like this.
Captain America: Winter Soldier Henry Jackman
This is exactly the kind of tripe that I was referring to in my above post. For starters, why would you even get rid of Silvestri's theme, one of the very few proper themes in the Marvel 'verse? What was the fucking point of Silvestri even composing an actual theme!?
Admittedly I've got 9 tracks left. But hope is soon fading as each track finishes... -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Captain America: Winter Soldier - Henry Jackman
Excruciatingly bad. When he said in the interview how it was like nothing anyone had ever heard before, perhaps the interviewer misheard him and what he actually said was "it's just like all the other generic bollocks Remote Control scores in sound but actually even worse than most of them because of the obnoxious electronics".
Thor will love it, it's that bad. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
Fuck it, I give up. This is just shite. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014 edited
Close Encounters Of The Motherfucking Third Kind John Motherfucking Williams
Fuck yeah. -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2014
What is it with Henry Jackman? The man is clearly a talented composer but give him an action movie and he just turns to complete shit. I don't get it.
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2014
Demetris wrote
MICHAEL NYMAN - Ravenous
Utterly horrible.
You forgot to mention it was co-composed by Damon Albarn of Blur. I'm not keen on it though at least it strives to be different. The film is utterly horrible too.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2014
Timmer wrote
Demetris wrote
MICHAEL NYMAN - Ravenous
Utterly horrible.
You forgot to mention it was co-composed by Damon Albarn of Blur. I'm not keen on it though at least it strives to be different. The film is utterly horrible too.
Fucking hell , he did (and can do) so much more, what kind of shitty drug were they onto when they wrote this?
Anyway.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2014 edited
Enough with the RC crap.
Why isn't people talking more about scores like this?
YURI POTEYENKO - Leningrad
Incredibly romantic (as in the era and style of composing) and lyrical.
or
WATARU YOKOHAMA - Soul Sacrifice
Amazing symphonic power from 2013.
Oh yeah, these are not "major releases" enough.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
