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  1. That's a battle between Legends of the Fall and The Spitfire Grill. With a host of onlookers.

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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013 edited
    The number one spot is a very tough one for me.
    One the one hand I completely agree with Timmer's choice of Conan The Barbarian. It's an album that completely and utterly blew me away at the first (and every subsequent) listen.

    On the other hand, I'm right there with the Captain: Return Of The Jedi is the first vinyl soundtrack I bought myself as well, and there is a massive amount of memories attached to that particular album (even though I also join the Captain in preferring -and really only revisiting- the Arista issue).
    One of them is that I tended to hide the album every weekend or evening we went out.
    At the time, we recently had a break-in at our house, and while the bruglars were interrupted early by my father waking up, there was a mood of insecurity and fear pervading our family (it got so bad that a few years later my parents sold the house....the worst thing they could have done, but that's another story), and I got so caught up in it that I hid my precious Jedi record. After all, it would be pretty much the first thing any burglar would pick up, right?
    Ah, I was so young. smile

    Anyway, to break the stalemate I am going in another direction.
    While these two are definitely my one and two spots for favourite score, my favourite album must be the Decca rerecording of Rozsa's Ben Hur.

    I know I've sung the praises of this album (together with the magnificent Quo Vadis) before, and the reason still stands firm in this thread: it is an album that solely consists of highlights. There simply is NO track that dips beneath the "five star" line. It is, in my opinion, by far the very best soundtrack album ever produced: recording, mastering, orchestration, track selection, and resequencnig (well, it's not so much resequencing as it is a rewriting of the original film score material into suite compositions).
    All incredibly well executed, with a result that continues to amaze and move me to this day, no matter how often I hear it.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    Artworks wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Artworks wrote

    I've noticed you say favorite ALBUM, not score.


    That's right. I wish you'd also noticed that I said one album at a time. NO. LISTS.

    wink


    Whoops, I missed that one... sorry. I'm a "selective reader", so I just read what I want to read... smile


    I read all of your post Lars

    From now on I'll skip all posts with your name on moon

    Of course, sending me a vast fortune of money will ensure my good will for ever more, the choice is yours.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013 edited
    Martijn wrote

    I hid my precious Jedi record. After all, it would be pretty much the first thing any burglar would pick up, right?


    The experience of being burgled ( ...and from personal experience ) is no laughing matter but I had to smile at this reasoning. As a teenager we ( my family home ) got burgled and the first thing I checked was my paltry little pre-Star Wars record collection, I doubt it consisted of much more than Goldfinger, Jaws and The Good The Bad and The Ugly and a small handful of others, thinking any thief would find that the most precious of plunder.

    On the down side he/they/it did take my state-of-the-art cassette recorder complete with hand held microphone for recording themes off the TV slant

    There are times when I'm all for the ancient Arabic art of offending hand removal.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    Just a quick and rather cathartic story about burglary before I get back on topic...

    One of my training buddies back in the early 1980's was a professional bodybuilder named Eric Hartley. Eric was 6'3 and weighed around a 100kg+, he got disturbed in the early hours one morning by a burglar, Eric, straight up from bed and completely naked confronted the burglar ( Eric had a well deserved reputation as a fighter and not a man to be messed with ) who nearly wet himself in fear at being confronted by a 6'3 muscle man. Eric told me that he wanted to smash this bloke to pieces he was so furious but instead made him sit down and made him a cup of tea while Eric called the police. Eric said the guy could barely drink it because his hands were shaking so much.

    A google search enabled me to find this one picture of ERIC

    At the time the story even made national dailies like The Sun and Daily Mirror, though obviously more tarted up.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    Cool story. And what a man! I like the 'twist' about the tea, in particular, as I've never been a big fan of fighting and real-life violence, no matter the motivation.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    Why don't I unstick my list for the time being and we'll participate in the new list. When it has died down I'll restick my list and continue on with it. What do you all think?
    Tom
    listen to more classical music!
  2. I think that we could work with a couple of stickies.
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      CommentAuthorArtworks
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    Timmer wrote
    I read all of your post Lars

    From now on I'll skip all posts with your name on moon

    Of course, sending me a vast fortune of money will ensure my good will for ever more, the choice is yours.


    That sounds like a great plan! wink Hmmmm, I'm just wondering how to break the news to my family, that they won't be getting any Christmas presents this year? rolleyes
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    I'll let you guys decide.
    Tom
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    Artworks wrote
    Timmer wrote
    I read all of your post Lars

    From now on I'll skip all posts with your name on moon

    Of course, sending me a vast fortune of money will ensure my good will for ever more, the choice is yours.


    That sounds like a great plan! wink Hmmmm, I'm just wondering how to break the news to my family, that they won't be getting any Christmas presents this year? rolleyes


    Just tell them the truth, I'm sure they'll understand. cheesy wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013 edited
    Anyway, after some deliberation of a large handful of scores I've decided on my 2nd choice...


    # 2 THE LION IN WINTER - JOHN BARRY ( 1968 )

    An album I've bought 4 times ( twice on CBS lp, Varese and Silva Screen ) and it's hard to believe that when I first heard this on a library clear-out for 30 pence that I hated it, but I was only 15 yrs old and not used to choral music back then.

    Not one wasted note from beginning to end, this, to me, is one of the most sublime choral scores ever written, it may surprise some people that there is synth in this score, a very subtle sound that gives it that something extra and, I believe, missing from Silva's very fine and complete release ( though I'll have to give the Silva another listen to confirm that? ). John Barry truly knew how to write for choir, whether it was big and apocalyptic or, and more importantly IMO, with sublime subtlety, one of my all time favourite film scores and album.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorchristopher
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013 edited
    sdtom wrote
    Why don't I unstick my list for the time being and we'll participate in the new list. When it has died down I'll restick my list and continue on with it. What do you all think?
    Tom


    I see no reason for that. We can easily discuss both. I haven't anything to say on your thread, Tom, simply because I'm nearly a complete ignoramus when it comes to scores before the late 70s. I say keep going, for sure. Additionally, your list is chronological, and this list is simply everyone favorites regardless of year. I think they're different enough not to step on one another's toes at all.
  3. Tim, we're talking about favorite film score albums, right? So compilations count?
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    No, no compilations.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  4. I've got to listen to The Lion in Winter again. I've got the Silva recording.
    I always found it completely overblown and borderline rediculous. Just don't tell anybody or I will never be alowed to post here again.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  5. Timmer wrote
    Anyway, after some deliberation of a large handful of scores I've decided on my 2nd choice...


    THE LION IN WINTER - JOHN BARRY ( 1968 )

    An album I've bought 4 times ( twice on CBS lp, Varese and Silva Screen ) and it's hard to believe that when I first heard this on a library clear-out for 30 pence that I hated it, but I was only 15 yrs old and not used to choral music back then.

    Not one wasted note from beginning to end, this, to me, is one of the most sublime choral scores ever written, it may surprise some people that there is synth in this score, a very subtle sound that gives it that something extra and, I believe, missing from Silva's very fine and complete release ( though I'll have to give the Silva another listen to confirm that? ). John Barry truly knew how to write for choir, whether it was big and apocalyptic or, and more importantly IMO, with sublime subtlety, one of my all time favourite film scores and album.


    I almost bought that album (the original performance), but SAE cancelled my order, because they didn't have it in stock for too long.

    I know the score full well.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    Captain Future wrote
    I've got to listen to The Lion in Winter again. I've got the Silva recording.
    I always found it completely overblown and borderline rediculous. Just don't tell anybody or I will never be alowed to post here again.


    Nowhere near as good as the original. Though I do like the Silva.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2013
    My two favourite albums share the no.1 spot. Since Conan the barbarian has been mentioned, this is my other favourite:

    The good, the bad and the ugly (the original 11 track release)

    I think Crom would approve. And if he does not approve, then the hell with him!

    Peter cool
  6. Well, my 2nd favourite score is somewhat controversial. The first score album (on vinyl) I ever owned:

    Chariots of Fire (1982) - Vangelis

    It was during the Olympic Summer Games of 1988 in Seoul that the film aired on German TV. I had never heard of that film before (German title: Die Stunde des Siegers / The Victor's Hour). Yet I was intrigued by what the TV magazine had to say about it. I taped the film, saw it and loved it forever. That film touched me profoundly. I loved the actors, the photography, the production design and above all: The story and the score.
    Ever since it was my experiance that people either share my perception of the film or they deem it an unbearable bore.

    I knew the title theme from radio and now saw a chance to get it on vinyl. This was my discovery of Vangelis. This way I first learned that film scores were being released on vinyl.
    My father was good enough (or I was intrusive enough) to drive me 70 km to Cologne where I spent part of my birthday money on that LP. I still own it.

    It has always stayed that way: Before the score cometh the film. If the film touches me, the score has a good chance to end up in my collection.

    Few films have touched me like "Chariots": "Dead Poets Society", "Schindler's List", "The Mission" ...
    The opening sequence of that film still lets me tear up. The speech Eric Liddell gives I know by heart, I hear the boys choir and the church organ performing "Jerusalem", then the scene changes: young men running along a beach, an older man stands watching, his dog gives chase and here comes Vangelis' magic. Great God, this film truly reveals the meaning of life.

    Now, the album feels more like a studio album than a film score. A disturbing amount of score is missing from the album. Instead we get a little electronica symphony on the flipside. That does not feature in the film but is one of the most beautiful peaces of music I ever encountered. I would love a release of the score more true to the film. But Vangelis does not seem to be inclined to support such productions.

    There are people out there who like the title theme but do not like the score. Well, such is life.

    In 2012 Vangelis revisited the material for the London Stage Show. Ironically that album sounds much more like a film score. The main theme is developed into several variations, characters get their own theme who did not have one before. Actually I would love to see the film with music from this album tracked in.

    One theme that will always be my own little personality anthem: Titles from "Chariots of Fire"!

    love (cry) smile Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2013 edited
    About LION IN WINTER (and excuse me if I type wrongly, because I've had quite a few specialty beers again): This is a fairly recent discovery of mine. I sampled it as I was preparing my Christmas episode of Celluloid Tunes. I was surprised to discover that I really enjoyed it -- or rather, I enjoyed the choral parts. The suspense/action tracks still grate on me like Barry always does, but so be it. The themes/choral writing is absolutely bliss!

    About my second choice:

    That would be:

    2. RETURN OF THE JEDI (John Williams) -- the Arista 4CD box version

    ...for reasons already expounded upon by others in this thread.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2013 edited
    RE: Barry's suspense music being skippable, its weird how Zimmer's influence has made suspense/lower-level action music much more sonically pleasant than it used to be...e.g. I'd rather listen to the 8-minute "Secondary Protocol" from Armageddon, which is all supsense, than the equivalent music that Morricone or Delerue or Barry would have written (Goldsmith and Williams could be exceptions here) for such a scene. And yet at the same time, the Zimmer influences have generally downgraded the quality of the more melodic/romantic parts of an average film score...paint-by-numbers textbook chord progressions rather than sweeping, lyrical, unexpected themes.
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  7. WINNER:

    "Jaws" (the MCA re-recording)
    Despite the sound quality, which in of itself has a certain amount of nostalgia to it, this is a perfect re-recorded score with the right tracks and a good amount of score. Certainly there are some great cues missing, but I think inserting them would have not helped the presentation.


    Other mentions:

    "The X-Files: The Truth and the Light" (Mark Snow)
    This has the most, what I could loosely say is, baggage.
    Dialogue in the score -- oh how I would love a dialogue-free version.
    The extended opening theme, and the synthscape introdruction cue, detract some.


    "Signs" (James Newton Howard)
    Its sort of like a story-telling journey.
    I'd still like the complete score, though.


    "Star Trek: The Next Generation" ("The Best of Both Worlds, Ron Jones)
    But of course when you're dealing with one of the greatest television scores ever written, it's hard to find a distracting cue.



    Honorable mention to the promotional CD (since it's not an official release):
    "Buffy the Vamprie Slayer" (Season 2 promo; Christophe Beck)

    Aside from one cue which is jolts you out-of-place, this is a great arrangement of score from season two of the series.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2013
    Thor wrote
    About LION IN WINTER (and excuse me if I type wrongly, because I've had quite a few specialty beers again): This is a fairly recent discovery of mine. I sampled it as I was preparing my Christmas episode of Celluloid Tunes. I was surprised to discover that I really enjoyed it -- or rather, I enjoyed the choral parts. The suspense/action tracks still grate on me like Barry always does, but so be it. The themes/choral writing is absolutely bliss!

    About my second choice:

    That would be:

    2. RETURN OF THE JEDI (John Williams)

    ...for reasons already expounded upon by others in this thread.


    I knew this one was near to your # 1 wink

    Glad you enjoyed some of The Lion In Winter ( and knowing you these many years I'm sure I could name the tracks you didn't like ).

    Volker and Matt, whether I agree with you or not doesn't matter, fascinating thoughts and opinions guys, keep it up. beer
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2013
    plindboe wrote
    My two favourite albums share the no.1 spot. Since Conan the barbarian has been mentioned, this is my other favourite:

    The good, the bad and the ugly (the original 11 track release)

    I think Crom would approve. And if he does not approve, then the hell with him!

    Peter cool


    He'll approve! I said so!!!

    Not far from my heart either, stay tuned.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2013
    christopher wrote
    Tim, we're talking about favorite film score albums, right? So compilations count?


    I said NO earlier but I'm not so sure now? Is this worth putting to a vote? What does everyone else think???
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  8. I don't care one way or the other. I can see how compilations might have an unfair advantage, as far as album production, but there's also merit to really great compilations. So it could go either way. I'm fine with not, but if we are, that changes things...like my #2 choice.
  9. I think we should all walk around in women's underwear. 'tis the season.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
  10. Second place on my list is James Horner's BRAVEHEART. No monothematic problems here. It's got at least half a dozen themes, all of them fantastic, and some of them used as counterpoint for others. There's also a great variety on display - It's got beautiful romantic themes, epic sweep, pounding battle music, and (geographically/historically appropriate or not) a nice dose of Celtic flare. It's a fantastic composition, and the album, though nearly 80 minutes long, never gets dull. There's a great forward momentum, and as with GLORY, the music tells the story of the film wonderfully. It finishes off with a spectacular couple of tracks. I'll admit that nostalgia probably colors my decision here, as BRAVEHEART was my first film score purchase.
  11. I'm having a difficult choice picking The Prince of Egypt or Star Wars: Return of the Jedi.

    If I want to tackle this personally, The Prince of Egypt always wins. It's clearly Zimmer's most mature composition, it's such a difference from the scores he's known for and it carries some of the all time best tracks ever composed. I mean why can't we get enough of 'The Burning Bush'? Because it's one of the strongest musical melodies ever put on scene. And don't get me started on the unreleased (and unused) finale that's replaced by Deliver Us at the end of the film. Now that's pure The Ten Commandments bliss.

    But then you have Return of the Jedi, hands down the best Star Wars score (and that's saying a lot). It has everything that makes Star Wars great, but with an extra dash of colour, emotion and playfulness. I mean the choral emotion raging through Luke and Vader's final fight is unparalleled. And to think of Leia's gentle theme or the many amazing battle cues. Ah I can't pick which one's first.

    So they both share 1st place smile

    The Prince of Egypt / Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh