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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2014 edited
    ...isn't he meant to be dead?


    # 21 JAMES HORNER - STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK


    This was a hugely played album when I had the LP, then it was a hugely played album on CD and now it's a hugely played FSM deluxe edition which, for me is definitive and I wouldn't want to miss a second of it.

    This was a really tough choice, this one and WRATH OF KHAN are a hair-breadth apart and I know there are plenty of people here at this board who would choose KHAN over SPOCK but for me it's the gorgeous and ethereal Spock music for tracks like Katra Ritual and The Meld that just slightly edge this one ahead of Star Trek II for me.

    Only a 'tard whould edit or skip those tracks.

    Oh yes. In my head I will consider STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN my # 21b cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2014
    I couldn't agree with you more. I also prefer SPOCK over KHAN. I have the ol' GNP Crescendo release and am happy with that.
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  1. Of course you are. cheesy
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2014
    Stealing The Enterprise.
    'nuff said.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014
    2 days after Timmer's post and no other 21st entries? (besides mine, below)

    #21: NINE HOURS TO RAMA and THE LION (1962) by Malcolm Arnold, on Vocalion CD (2008).

    Two ultra rare soundtracks on one CD re-mastered by Dutton laboratories. No way this album would get eliminated from my favorite 50, though for several years I wasn't even aware this was released because there were earlier bootlegs with the same content already in circulation.
    When I finally purchased this disc, it was in 2012 (after having learned it is legit).

    The music has been familiar to me, though, since the early 1990s when I had acquired used LPs on each [both were on London records here in the U.S., but were issued on Decca in the U.K. (according to my understanding)].

    THE LION is not exactly my favorite Malcolm Arnold score, but's very nice. In my assessment, THE LION doesn't offer anything that Arnold hadn't already done with his earlier THE ROOTS OF HEAVEN.
    Both showcase Arnold in his 'African' modes. His trademark percussion being an essential musical ingredient in the foreground. Arnold's theme for the Pamela Franklyn character (who is the juvenile in THE LION's cast) is in the 'British light classical' mold. THE LION was recorded in London during May of 1962 (52 years ago this month smile )

    Of greater interest to me is NINE HOURS TO RAMA. For over 20 years, NINE HOURS TO RAMA has been my favorite film score to depict India.
    The film is set in 1948 around the events leading to Ghandi's assassination. Malcolm Arnold underscores the suspenseful plight of the protagonist assassin as well as the loveliness of the lady Rani, both with woodwinds with 'Eastern' colorings. The source music is neither marches nor jukebox tunes nor any other such pop music which typically surfaced onto LP programs. With RAMA, Arnold utilized genuine Indian musicians and their instruments without any Westernizing aspects. [the Indian music within is not Bollywood but classically Indian (as what might be heard in India during the early 1900s)]

    Listeners who don't care for Indian scales and intervals will probably not cotton to this soundtrack, but for me this one's a delight!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014
    Sounds intriguing, actually (I have particular interest in Indian cinema and film music). And I like what I've heard of Arnold previously.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014 edited
    My pick:

    21. MIAMI VICE (Jan Hammer)

    As far as I know, TV score albums are also allowed? If not, let me know and I will replace it with something filmey.

    While I do indeed have a nostalgic relationship to the tv show (like most people my age) and the music within -- both score and songs -- it wasn't untill 2002 that I acquired Hammer's own glorious 2CD set from One Way Records with nothing but score tracks. This is some of the best electronic music ever written, and each track is a journey onto itself. A mix of jazz fushion, electropop, funky hooks and lofty textures.

    When I wrote my thesis back in 2001-2004, this was on constant rotation in my ancient PC CD player (I used headphones, obviously, since I was seated in a think tank at the university), so it got me through that and I do -- in fact -- associate it more with that setting now. Weird.

    I understand that the album is hard-to-find these days, especially for an affordable price.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014
    Thor wrote
    As far as I know, TV score albums are also allowed? If not, let me know and I will replace it with something filmey.


    No problem Thor.

    Film/TV/Documentary..... ( my 15th choice is a TV score )
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014 edited
    I omitted TV albums like those as they are compilation albums, which are pretty much "best of" albums by definition. smile
    But that's merely a personal preference.
    I'll put up my 11-20 list soon!
    (God, I'm lagging behind!)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014
    Martijn wrote
    I omitted TV albums like those as they are compilation albums, which are pretty much "best of" albums by definition. smile
    But that's merely a personal preference.
    I'll put up my 11-20 list soon!
    (God, I'm lagging behind!)


    Yeah, I know what you mean, but for me this list is ALL about the concept album idea. I don't really care about the source. As such, compilation albums and 'best ofs' may also work as great concept albums on par with any individual score release.
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  2. No 21:

    Batman - Danny Elfman (1989)

    I love the entire score, not only the highlights. The film for me is the quintessential Batman film and the score is its perfect musical companion. It is by far my favourite Elfman score. Composition, orchestration and album presentation are outstanding. I kind of missed out on the remastered edition but no matter: I think the commercial release represents the album just fine.
    No 22 will be a STAR TREK score.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014
    Some of it I like a lot. I can't listen to the whole album.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  3. It's a score I think is very good but which oddly I rarely am in the mood to listen to.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014 edited
    dino <--oh puuuhlease rolleyes


    # 22 ONE MILLION YEARS B.C. - MARIO NASCIMBENE


    A second "prehistoric" entry and not the last one in my top 50, yes, I know you're all predicting my 3rd one will be Alan Silvestri's Clan of The Cave Bear. wink

    Seeing this film as a child was one of my earliest experiences of noticing music in film, as a burgeoning teenage film music fan this was a score I hoped would have had a release. Back in the mid-late 20th century one didn't always know if a soundtrack album to a film was released, at one time the only thing I could do was check the credits on movie posters or catch the opening credits of a movie on TV to find out who did the music, or rummaging in 'second-hand' shops or the latest releases section of record stores which were mostly useless. The discovery ( through an ad in Films & Filming magazine ) of specialist soundtrack shop That's Entertainment in London changed all of that and One Million Years B.C. was one of my very first purchases and the beginning of a number of years of being continually skint.

    What a great and atmospheric score it is, from the brutal and barbaric opening titles to the wonderfully orchestrated atonalities for the bleak volcanic landscapes ( filmed on the Canary Islands of Tenerife and Lanzarote ) to the soaringly beautiful and ethereal theme for Loana played by Raquel Welch in an iconically defining role.

    I still occasionally play the LP but having the CD which includes Nascimbene's WHEN DINOSAURS RULED THE EARTH and CREATURES THE WORLD FORGOT is a lovely bonus.

    +....annnnnd for no points or prizes whatsoever, who can make the link between One Million Years B.C. and film composer Thomas Newman? +
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  4. Spock: If I were human I believe my response would be "go to hell." If I were human."
    Chekov: Course heading, Captain?
    Kirk: Second star to the right and straight on till morning.


    No. 22: STAR TREK VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991) by Cliff Eidelman

    The fans of James Horner may forgive me but this is my second favourite STAR TREK score. I love the film, I love the C&C edition of this score. Although the expansion did not add too much to the original release.
    I once read, that Roddenberry hired eidelman to adapt Holst's THE PLANETS for the film, but the Holst estate would not have it. Eidelman's overture is heavily influenced by the MARS suite anyway. It works magnificently.

    Remember the final sequence? Kirks final testimony and the autographes of the actors being written on the screen? Eidelman's soaring "Sign Off" fanfare? I cried like a baby when I first eperianced that. It still gives me goosebumps.

    To few scores I have such an intense emotional connection.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014
    I've never seen ONE MILLION YEARS B.C., nor do I think I've heard the score? Maybe the theme once upon a time, I can't recall.

    STAR TREK VI is a superb score, though (I'm perfectly pleased with the original recording, of course). Never been much of a Trekkie, but I've enjoyed a great deal of the music for the franchise.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    +....annnnnd for no points or prizes whatsoever, who can make the link between One Million Years B.C. and film composer Thomas Newman? +


    I have NO idea! confused
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  5. Thor wrote
    I've never seen ONE MILLION YEARS B.C., nor do I think I've heard the score?


    Me neither, I'm afraid.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014
    Thor wrote
    I've never seen ONE MILLION YEARS B.C., nor do I think I've heard the score? Maybe the theme once upon a time, I can't recall.


    If you have one of the Prague rerecordings then it's possible. None of the themes in this movie have become famous outside of us film-score-geek minorities.

    Thor wrote
    STAR TREK VI is a superb score, though (I'm perfectly pleased with the original recording, of course). Never been much of a Trekkie, but I've enjoyed a great deal of the music for the franchise.


    Very good score but miles behind the scores for Treks I, II & III imo. I'm happy with the regular release too.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014 edited
    My pick:

    22. THE MUMMY (Jerry Goldsmith)

    The first -- and only! -- Goldsmith on my list, although I had several contenders (which I will get back to once we've finished our official picks). There would be more if this was about film scores in context, and not soundtrack albums, obviously.

    Be that as it may, it's my favourite of his work, and even though it doesn't have the intellectual or artistic depth of his earlier works, it's still a fantastic listening experience from start to finish; a cue like "The Night Boarders", for example, which sounds like a modernistic Middle-Eastern concert piece in and of itself. It's so lush and romantic and exotic, embodying so much flair and energy and heart, it's hard to go wrong.

    It needs to be said that I like Silvestri's sequel score almost as much, but I didn't want to include both, so I avoided that altogether in favour of this.

    I got the CD shortly after it was released, and it's been with me ever since. When I'm in the mood for some well-structured, thematic bombast (yes, I do like that once in a while), this is a great option.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014 edited
    Martijn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    +....annnnnd for no points or prizes whatsoever, who can make the link between One Million Years B.C. and film composer Thomas Newman? +


    I have NO idea! confused


    I could give you a clue but it would immediately give it away. I'm not dragging this out so I'll put that massive clue up in about half an hour.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014
    Captain Future wrote
    Thor wrote
    I've never seen ONE MILLION YEARS B.C., nor do I think I've heard the score?


    Me neither, I'm afraid.


    There are some of us ( and here too on this board ) who were entranced and thrilled by the magician that was Ray Harryhausen. Ray + Dinosaurs = angelic
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    Martijn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    +....annnnnd for no points or prizes whatsoever, who can make the link between One Million Years B.C. and film composer Thomas Newman? +


    I have NO idea! confused


    I could give you a clue but it would immediately give it away. I'm not dragging this out so I'll put that massive clue up in about an hour.


    Something to do with Thomas' dad, maybe, being involved somehow?
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014 edited
    Nope!

    It's a tenuous link.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014 edited
    Martijn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    +....annnnnd for no points or prizes whatsoever, who can make the link between One Million Years B.C. and film composer Thomas Newman? +


    I have NO idea! confused


    Timmer wrote
    I could give you a clue but it would immediately give it away. I'm not dragging this out so I'll put that massive clue up in about half an hour.


    Here you go...

    MASSIVE CLUE
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014
    Oh Raquelllll....swooooooooonnnnnn

    Ah.
    Yes.
    Of course.
    dizzy
    Shawshank. biggrin
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014 edited
    biggrin beer

    Indeed! It's certainly not Rita Hayworth*. wink

    *for uber-geekdom only
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    *for uber-geekdom only


    Nah, I think anyone who's seen Shawshank will get that reference. I'm kicking myself for not making the One Million Years B.C./Newman connection though...
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014 edited
    Steven wrote
    Timmer wrote
    *for uber-geekdom only


    Nah, I think anyone who's seen Shawshank will get that reference.


    I was referring to the book there. Stephen King's novella is called Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption.

    ( but yeah, her poster is first one up on the cell wall in the film too )
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2014
    ... going North again ...

    #22: 2001's unused music by Alex North, on Intrada CD (2007).

    This version contains the original monaural tracks recorded in England during January of 1968.

    Initially, I did not expect this Intrada disc to offer anything that we didn't already hear within Jerry Goldsmith's interpretation of North's 2001 score in Varese Sarabande's 1993 re-recording.

    Collectors got a good digital recording of 2001 - so why issue the original tapes?

    How misguided my thoughts were!

    This CD not only revealed a different listening experience but it surpassed the Varese/Goldsmith version (according to my personal assessment, that is).

    The most significant difference, IMO, is the contribution of Henry Brandt (North's regular orchestrator since THE MISFITS and his sometimes co-conductor).

    The original sessions' brass section in particular yields sonorities that the later re-recording doesn't quite capture (again, IMO).

    There are portions of some cues which run longer than the re-recording because some of the music was written & recorded 'on-the-spot' @ Anvil studios and was not, apparently, included with North's manuscripts.

    Also, this Intrada edition contains a few bonus tracks of alternate and "wild" takes (and doesn't mistakenly include North's theme from AFRICA as the Goldsmith album had done smile ).

    The musical vocabulary employed by North is amongst his most uncompromising modern and abrasive writing, so this is one soundtrack which will not please the majority of film music fans and is ultimately an acquired taste.

    And since this thread is about our favorite soundtrack albums as listening experiences, debates upon whether North's music is better or worse than director Stanley Kubrick's needle-drop 'temp track' of classical selections are not applicable to our topic of interest.

    I guess with this 2001 you either love it as music or you don't.