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I was just referrring to the comments that had taken what I said a bit out of context.

Look, this is all about such a small thing. Most of you are right about most of what you said. It's just that one small thing I said that I think to be right, but a lot of comments dodge around that by overemphasizing aspects that are all true but irrelevant to that small point I'm making.

Ralph, I was just teasing, you don't need redemption. I can't even remember if I saw the film or heard the score first so I can't say whether my experience of the album was similarly colored by the film or not. I just remember I was initially lukewarm about the whole thing (partially driven by the immense dislike for the score on here) but that every time I go back to it I find myself more and more fond of all of it.

I don't think there is anything wrong with "judging" film scores as standalone musical albums even if that is not the original purpose of the music's creation. I do think there is something wrong with judging the talents and potential of a composer by the same criteria.

"The Winter Soldier score album sucks and is a horrendous listening experience" is not an opinion that would get my ire up at all or cause me to get into long discussions with anyone. "Henry Jackman sucks and is just like all those other damn Zimmer clones", on the other hand, might annoy me a bit, because there are good reasons why Jackman made the creative choices some have expressed disagreement with, and it's quite clear he's perfectly capable of producing more traditional, lyrical film music when asked. Some don't know Jackman was actually responsible for "Up Is Down", considered one of the best tracks on one of the best Zimmer scores of all time. Or that he actually wrote a traditional, lyrical long-lined theme for First Class and was told by the director to remove everything except the ostinato riff. So judge The Winter Soldier as an album all you want. Just don't conclude that Jackman is a talentless hack who doesn't understand the musical needs of a scene That has been suggested in the past, although fortunately I don't think anyone here is doing that.

Mhhhhhhhhh, yeah, alright. I guess so.

Yes, I have that one, it's nice. One of the last I ever purchased, as about that time he had started to do so many low budget projects with generic music that it was just wasting my time. 30c Couleur might be his last best one.

If you love Kaska then you'll want to own his TONE POEMS album.

http://www.cinematicsound.net/in-the-sp … ood-films/

-Erik-

NP: The Arti: The Adventure Begins - Chen Chien-Chi

A big rousing orchestral score for an animated film from Asia.

I believe, seen from England, the rest of the globe is Asia.

Can you recommend any other Kaska music, Erik? I wasn't a huge fan of the whole album, but Battle for Atlantis, The Lake Isle of Innisfree, Mount Vesuvius and The Golden Falcon tracks were excellent.

He also shares a spot with Williams on this CD of concert music:

http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Trumpet- … B00006F7K4

Recommended CD!

A superb score. It needs to get a proper score-only release!

Criticising film music for being melodramatic feels like lamenting about ice cream for being sweet.

I can't fully appreciate any fim score without having seen the movie.

Volker

Wrong, there are many types of ice cream. The sugary sweet cheap kind, the delicately flavored kind, the inbetweens, etc. The Golden/Silver Age score were overly melodramatic, bombastic, because the movies were spectacles, experiences that people got dressed up to go watch. And composers had to amp up the production designs and the actors acting and fighting and such. Different time.

I don't really connect with most cinema (especially Hollywood variety) so a lot of times it's more true for me to say I can't really appreciate a film score unless I stay away from the film. Yes, I know I'm not appreciate it in its intended environment but, I don't care as long as its interesting, exciting or beautiful music.

Never heard of it....