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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    franz_conrad wrote
    See Demetris. Even He, lukewarm about JNH at the best of times, thought Lady in the Water was excellent.


    It's a overrated score , for a stupid movie.

    NP:Alien (Goldsmith)

    I saw the DVD and the making of the music. Pretty interesting, and with a lot of talk about the Editor-Producers-Director Against Goldsmith. I never thought Goldsmith could join the crew in the DVD. (when this interviews are done? 2002? )

    I have to say im agree with Producers about the main titles, Goldsmith version is out of place, not only because i don't like the main theme but because it's too romantic.

    ABout the score, I find some action stuff really hard to enjoy, Even if it's a very creative music.
  1. I agree with the call Ridley Scott and his editor made re: Goldsmith's main title. Not quite so convinced they made the right decision with respect to the end title though.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    It said "New 496" at this thread. I feel I've missed out of alot of action.

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    Southall wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Mission to Mars?!?!?! rolleyes

    Good lord!

    How do you EVER get through "Towards the Unknown?"

    crazy

    -Erik-


    wink With the greatest of ease! Exquisite film scoring.


    Annoying and completely inappropriate scoring. One of the most distracting cues in the history of film music. Laughable really. I remember my friend and I looking at each other in the theatre and wondering just what the hell Morricone and De Palma were thinking. And then the laugh out loud finale. Beautiful music on it's own but again completely the wrong tone. It made in incredibly cheesy moment unintentionally funny!

    -Erik-


    My girlfriend finds "Towards the unknown" a sexy cue. I personally think it's the least listenable on the album, but I still kinda like it. The finale I think is the best sequence in recent film score history. The movie was kinda cheesy, but the music somehow makes me connect emotionally to it.

    The first 5½ minutes of this utube clip illustrates the awesomeness of this score quite well-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92UrCSI0vlk

    Peter punk
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    franz_conrad wrote
    See Demetris. Even He, lukewarm about JNH at the best of times, thought Lady in the Water was excellent.


    I couldn't have put it better myself.
  2. biggrin
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    NP : THE GOLDEN COMPASS - Alexandre Desplat



    My first play......
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    franz_conrad wrote
    See Demetris. Even He, lukewarm about JNH at the best of times, thought Lady in the Water was excellent.


    biggrin
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    Timmer wrote
    NP : THE GOLDEN COMPASS - Alexandre Desplat

    My first play......

    Let us know. I just relistened to it yesterday and it gets, like some people here mentioned, better each listen. I wonder when this becoming better ends....
    Kazoo
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    Bregt wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : THE GOLDEN COMPASS - Alexandre Desplat

    My first play......

    Let us know. I just relistened to it yesterday and it gets, like some people here mentioned, better each listen. I wonder when this becoming better ends....


    I would totally agree with that Bregt, there's a lot to get your ears around and I'm looking forward to giving it a second listen.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    NP: An American Tail-James Horner

    This is a score from Horner dating back to 1986.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    sdtom wrote
    NP: An American Tail-James Horner

    This is a score from Horner dating back to 1986.


    Wow. That's like really old.


    Casino Royale | David Arnold

    What a score! 'African Rundown' and 'Miami International' are two of the coolest action cues Arnold's ever composed.
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    I would totally agree with that Bregt, there's a lot to get your ears around and I'm looking forward to giving it a second listen.


    So we have 3 for, 2 on the line (incl Timmer), 4 against, and Thor abstains.

    wink
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    NP: John Williams Conducts John Williams- Star Wars Trilogy

    Great concert arrengements, and the only way to hear this themes with today's recordings technology

    Next I will play: ST.Insurrection

    THe main theme makes me cry, and the action stuff is recorded as heaven, very clearly.

    The best ST score since the original, the only problem is some action stuff is too on autopilot
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007 edited
    NP Pirates of the Caribbean Suites (Hans Zimmer)

    Simply amazing.
    "Marry Me" - "The Heart of Davy Jones" - "Lord Cutler Beckett" - "Just Good Business" - "The Pirate Lord of Singapore" and "Hoist the Colors Suite" would make a perfect live concert.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    franz_conrad wrote
    Timmer wrote


    I would totally agree with that Bregt, there's a lot to get your ears around and I'm looking forward to giving it a second listen.


    So we have 3 for, 2 on the line (incl Timmer), 4 against, and Thor abstains.

    wink


    I just got back from watching the film and the score's even better there than on the album, which is saying something. Desplat completely nailed it - and the film's a million miles better than I expected/feared (though isn't perfect).
  4. Southall wrote
    I just got back from watching the film and the score's even better there than on the album, which is saying something. Desplat completely nailed it - and the film's a million miles better than I expected/feared (though isn't perfect).

    My thoughts exactly. And the score does get better with each listen. I can hear so many different themes now... I started reading the novel, and I think the movie (and score) got the atmosphere quite right. The score is a perfect listen during reading the book. Desplat absolutely hit every button spot on, be it the college, Kidman, the Bears, the gyptians, the journeys, the action. That final battle Theme is truly spectacular.

    Just in case you didn´t notice, count me with the "for". biggrin
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    Imagine how many themes we would discover if we listen more closely to Michael Clayton, 21 Grams, The Clearing, The Forgotten, or all scores by Haslinger. shocked
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    A number springs immediately to mind, actually.
  5. James, although I'm 10 hours in front of you, you always seem quicker to the punch like that!

    Since you've seen GC, perhaps you can say - any major cues not on the album?

    NP: 'Night of the flying horses' by Osvaldo Golijov

    When this one whips up into a Slavic frenzy, this one is fantastic. punk
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  6. Christodoulides wrote
    franz_conrad wrote
    See Demetris. Even He, lukewarm about JNH at the best of times, thought Lady in the Water was excellent.


    biggrin


    wink
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
    NP:The Ring ( Zimmer )

    Even having the recording sessions , I prefer play the first 3 tracks from the Decca realease wich are basically the best music from the first movie.

    The Well (11:24)
    Before you die you see the Ring (7:09)
    This is going to hurt (2:47)
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
    Nautilus wrote
    NP: John Williams Conducts John Williams- Star Wars Trilogy

    Great concert arrengements, and the only way to hear this themes with today's recordings technology


    No it's not. And actually HATE this album. The performances are fine but the conducting is awful. A lot of the tracks are way too slow. However, The Imperial March is stunning. Jordi, I highly recommend you find the superior Varujan Kojian/Utah Symphony The Star Wars Trilogy album. Better sound, better performances and better conducting. The best Star Wars trilogy album!

    -Erik-
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  7. Erik Woods wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    NP: John Williams Conducts John Williams- Star Wars Trilogy

    Great concert arrengements, and the only way to hear this themes with today's recordings technology


    No it's not. And actually HATE this album. The performances are fine but the conducting is awful. A lot of the tracks are way too slow. However, The Imperial March is stunning. Jordi, I highly recommend you find the superior Varujan Kojian/Utah Symphony The Star Wars Trilogy album. Better sound, better performances and better conducting. The best Star Wars trilogy album!

    -Erik-


    Is this album the Skywalker Symphony recording? I seem to recall - strangely enough for a record trying to showcase a recording venue - that the sound is kind of flat. And that extended 'Throne Room' concert suite is not Williams at his best... the shorter STAR WARS edit is more to the point, even if it lacks the beauty of the Force theme on its own. (Williams should probably have done a concert arrangement of that theme on its own anyway.)
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
    franz_conrad wrote
    James, although I'm 10 hours in front of you, you always seem quicker to the punch like that!

    Since you've seen GC, perhaps you can say - any major cues not on the album?


    No.

    The film itself moves along at a ferocious pace, never gets stuck in any sequence that drags (which I suspect might make it hard to follow for someone who hasn't read the book) and some of the effects are breathtaking. The way the daemons are done, in particular - I always wondered how that would be accomplished. I wasn't bothered by the stuff that was left out - except perhaps the ending - but I can see why they chose to end where they did. Such a pity that the other two novels might not make it to cinemas after all.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
    Lair | John Debney & Kevin Kaska

    I absolutely love this score.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
    Steven wrote
    Casino Royale | David Arnold

    What a score! 'African Rundown' and 'Miami International' are two of the coolest action cues Arnold's ever composed.


    Couldn't agree M-O-R-E! My man! punk
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  8. Southall wrote
    The film itself moves along at a ferocious pace, never gets stuck in any sequence that drags (which I suspect might make it hard to follow for someone who hasn't read the book).

    Nope. My whole family could follow it without difficulties. I hear this kind of comment a lot around this movie, readers of the book worrying non-readers getting the story, but it doesn´t seem to be that problem at all. I think the script did a wonderful job to focus on certain aspects and to make those absolutely clear. There may be things missing, but it didn´t feel that way, and I didn´t find it too fast-paced. The Golden Compass managed all this a lot better than the Potter movies, which are so totally rushed and never care to explain things in a proper way for non-readers. Not that I would need it, since I´ve read all the books beforehand, but a lot of people I know, who never read any of them, were totally lost by what happened in part 5, and I can totally understand it.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
    Nautilus wrote
    Next I will play: ST.Insurrection


    Thank you for the announcement.
    The streets have been cleared and Ted Koppel and Mike Wallace have been alerted.

    NP: Broken Arrow - Hans Zimmer
    Rough, but very enjoyable! Reminds me a lot of Franke's work on Babylon 5 (which I love incidentally), which only enhances the fun. Undiluted, unapologetic Zimmer power stuff going on. I *like* it. biggrin
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2007
    Steven wrote
    Lair | John Debney & Kevin Kaska

    I absolutely love this score.


    I love it too. One of this year´s best.
    But now you mention it, which parts are Kaska´s work, if you (or somebody else) know it? I have 4 tracks of the score labeled as Kaska´s ("Main Menu", "Blood River", "Breaking the Ice" and "Bridge of the Ancients"), but I don´t know if it´s a reliable info. And I assume that even if those tracks are by Kaska, they are based around Debney´s themes? Too many doubts too soon this morning confused
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you