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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2008
    Your ears, theyz broken.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Southall wrote
    Steven wrote
    Southall wrote
    Hancock - John Powell

    Very enjoyable, probably the pick of his four scores so far this year. Very Danny Elfman-ish in places.


    Pfft. His contribution to Kung Fu Panda and his score to Horton Hears a Who! are much better IMO. PS I Love You is also a much more enjoyable album than Hancock. It just seems really bland to me.


    Pfft. Horton is same-old same-old, PS I Love You standard generic rom-com, Panda silly Zimmer stuff and at least this is a bit different for him. No masterpiece, but nice to hear an action score from him which isn't entirely the same vein as his others. In terms of this year, Stop-Loss was OK and so was Jumper but this sounds a lot fresher to me.


    Really? It has n.o.t.h.i.n.g. No themes, no grip, no structure, nothing. P.S. I love you is not standard rom-com, it's the style Powell created with I AM SAM / GIGLI only expanded and even more beautiful, with GORGEOUS melodies. Although i agree on what you said about Panda.

    Stop loss was his best score this year imo, the main theme and the final renditions are some of the most touching and emotionally intense material he's ever delivered, imo.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  1. With the exception of UNITED 93 (which is more of a thriller in the scoring), I don't go for POwell dramas. Particularly the romantic kind. One man's 'gorgeous' is another man's 'disposable'.

    NP: Deep Blue (George Fenton)

    Not so disposable.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008 edited
    Southall wrote
    Panda silly Zimmer stuff .


    What a silly coment....clearly from a man who needs listen more scores from both composers or leave to say this things.

    rolleyes

    NP:secret of Sahara (morricone)


    the word for decrive this score : Inventive.

    Few scores are more inventive than this morricone. IMHO better than more "easy" score like The mission.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Nautilus wrote
    Few scores are more inventive than this morricone. IMHO better than more "easy" score like The mission.


    The Mission easy? confused Now that's a silly comment.

    -Erik-
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Nautilus wrote
    Southall wrote
    Panda silly Zimmer stuff .


    What a silly coment....clearly from a man who needs listen more scores from both composers or leave to say this things.


    If there's one thing in the world I don't need to do, it's listen to more scores from both composers. Panda is just Powell doing his best Zimmer impression. You can tell some bits are Powell, but his style is so dialled-down and washed-away it may just as well be anyone. (The second part of that sentence could be used to describe any score which has ever come from Zimmer's co-composers and the like.)
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008 edited
    Nautilus wrote
    Southall wrote
    Panda silly Zimmer stuff .


    What a silly coment....clearly from a man who needs listen more scores from both composers or leave to say this things.

    rolleyes



    Actually i agree, no matter how fun it was for some, both Horton and Kung Fu Panda mostly $contained irritatingly fluffy and noisy light-spirited music of the standard Powell-loves-Zimmer sound throughout the largest part of their running time. Horton was more Powell per se, but still of the same nature; constantly changing moods, colors, tempi, styles; tiring.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    Southall wrote
    Panda silly Zimmer stuff .


    What a silly coment....clearly from a man who needs listen more scores from both composers or leave to say this things.

    rolleyes



    Actually i agree, no matter how fun it was for some, both Horton and Kung Fu Panda mostly $contained irritatingly fluffy and noisy light-spirited music of the standard Powell-loves-Zimmer sound throughout the largest part of their running time. Horton was more Powell per se, but still of the same nature; constantly changing moods, colors, tempi, styles; tiring.


    Can you tell me please one example where Powell is showing his love for Zimmer in Horton?

    Panda, it's clearly a powell score. You can notice what bits are by Zimmer, because it has his Thunderbirds orchestrations (Tai Lung Scapes, for example)
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Erik Woods wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    Few scores are more inventive than this morricone. IMHO better than more "easy" score like The mission.


    The Mission easy? confused Now that's a silly comment.

    -Erik-


    No, I mean...The Mission seems a easier listen than Sahara because The mission has more famous main themes. The mission is not easy, of course.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Nautilus wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    Few scores are more inventive than this morricone. IMHO better than more "easy" score like The mission.


    The Mission easy? confused Now that's a silly comment.

    -Erik-


    No, I mean...The Mission seems a easier listen than Sahara because The mission has more famous main themes. The mission is not easy, of course.


    Only because it became so popular.

    I prefer 'Sahara' but The Mission is a fantastic score too.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Steven wrote
    Your ears, theyz broken.


    Not as badly as your keyboard! wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    NP : STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE - Jerry Goldsmith



    Along with a ( large'ish ) handful of others this is one of the most played scores I have, I think I even wore out the original LP release!? wink

    A huge cosmic symphony without any need of a 1000+ choir or synth augmented orchestration, I doubt there's anyone alive with the chops to do an orchestral score like this now!?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    NP: xXx - Randy Edelman

    I'd better not pop this into a car while driving or I'll definitely get a speeding ticket! tongue biggrin
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      CommentAuthorAtham
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Timmer wrote
    NP : STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE - Jerry Goldsmith



    Along with a ( large'ish ) handful of others this is one of the most played scores I have, I think I even wore out the original LP release!? wink

    A huge cosmic symphony without any need of a 1000+ choir or synth augmented orchestration, I doubt there's anyone alive with the chops to do an orchestral score like this now!?


    Are you channeling my thoughts Timmer?
    I totally agree with every single word you wrote there!
    ST:TMP is without doubt one of the greatest scores of the twentieth century.

    Bravo maestro Goldsmith! punk
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Nautilus wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Nautilus wrote
    Southall wrote
    Panda silly Zimmer stuff .


    What a silly coment....clearly from a man who needs listen more scores from both composers or leave to say this things.

    rolleyes



    Actually i agree, no matter how fun it was for some, both Horton and Kung Fu Panda mostly $contained irritatingly fluffy and noisy light-spirited music of the standard Powell-loves-Zimmer sound throughout the largest part of their running time. Horton was more Powell per se, but still of the same nature; constantly changing moods, colors, tempi, styles; tiring.


    Can you tell me please one example where Powell is showing his love for Zimmer in Horton?

    Panda, it's clearly a powell score. You can notice what bits are by Zimmer, because it has his Thunderbirds orchestrations (Tai Lung Scapes, for example)


    Panda's full of Zimmer, everywhere. Orchestration, style, chord procession. The only Powell parts are the mickey mousing.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    Panda's full of Zimmer, everywhere. Orchestration, style, chord procession. The only Powell parts are the mickey mousing.


    Not that I have any problem with that cheesy wink
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008 edited
    DemonStar wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Panda's full of Zimmer, everywhere. Orchestration, style, chord procession. The only Powell parts are the mickey mousing.


    Not that I have any problem with that cheesy wink


    Yes, We have. Because it's not true what Demetris is saying. tongue

    Panda is a little bit more close to Zimmer only because the "old" Powell sound was a little bit more masculine and not so orchestral over the top like Powell is these days. But Panda still remains a powell score with some tracks and themes by Zimmer.

    Only because Panda has Horns, it doesn't mean it's a Zimmer score. The trumpets, choral, the bourne Electronics anb the more "complex" action tracks are more close to Evolution than to At world's End, for example. The "Bridge Battle" or "shi fu faces..." are masculine action tracks with horns, but far to be the driving melodies with percusion what Zimmer usually compose.

    The only real Zimmer sound is "Tai Lung Scapes" ,the epic theme rendition in "Sacreed Pool of tears", "Peach tree of Wisdom", "the dragon Scrolls" and "oogsay Ascends"

    NP:Invasion (ottman)

    I guess im against a lot of things, but this is one of my fav by Ottman.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    ENNIO MORRICONE - 72 metra

    Perfect. Every single note of it.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008 edited
    NP: The Lion King - Hans Zimmer

    I needn't say any more I guess... except today I decided to play the songs as well! wink
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    ENNIO MORRICONE - 72 metra

    Perfect. Every single note of it.


    cool beer
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    NP: Pirates Of The Caribbean 3 - At World's End - Hans Zimmer

    One of the best Zimmer scores of the 2000s after The Thin Red Line and The Da Vinci Code.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Atham wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE - Jerry Goldsmith



    Along with a ( large'ish ) handful of others this is one of the most played scores I have, I think I even wore out the original LP release!? wink

    A huge cosmic symphony without any need of a 1000+ choir or synth augmented orchestration, I doubt there's anyone alive with the chops to do an orchestral score like this now!?


    Are you channeling my thoughts Timmer?
    I totally agree with every single word you wrote there!
    ST:TMP is without doubt one of the greatest scores of the twentieth century.

    Bravo maestro Goldsmith! punk



    beer

    When was the last time there was an in-depth conversation on this board about truly great scores like this rather than the page after page analysis of RC / MV mediocrity. rolleyes

    And on that note I now leave you all, I'm off to the Festival and will see you next week; I'll post if I get a chance but there'll be so much going on that may be unlikely!?


    SEE YOU ALL NEXT WEEK wave
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    Your ears, theyz broken.


    Not as badly as your keyboard! wink


    You fail at lolspeak. biggrin
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Steven wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    Your ears, theyz broken.


    Not as badly as your keyboard! wink


    You fail at lolspeak. biggrin


    You just fail! tongue
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008 edited
    Hello, I'm new here!

    DemonStar wrote
    NP: The Lion King - Hans Zimmer

    I needn't say any more I guess... except today I decided to play the songs as well! wink

    I love the songs as well as the score. Hans Zimmer and Mark Mancina did brilliant job on arrangements... especially Zimmer's Circle Of Life, which inspired directors to change the whole opening sequence from funny dialogue-based scene into that inspirational opening.

    NP: The Lion King - Hans Zimmer
    beer for all The Lion King Generation friends biggrin
    Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    Your ears, theyz broken.


    Not as badly as your keyboard! wink


    You fail at lolspeak. biggrin


    You just fail! tongue


    kiss
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008 edited
    Miya wrote
    I love the songs as well as the score. Hans Zimmer and Mark Mancina did brilliant job on arrangements... especially Zimmer's Circle Of Life, which inspired directors to change the whole opening sequence from funny dialogue-based scene into that inspirational opening.

    NP: The Lion King - Hans Zimmer
    beer for all The Lion King Generation friends biggrin


    I don't think I can live without this score smile and I cannot tell you how furious I am at Disney Records because they gave it such a bad treatment on CD. I hope there's a complete release one day!

    NP: Mulan (academy promo) - Jerry Goldsmith

    Although this score was also treated more or less as TLK was treated by Disney Records, we're fortunate at least we've got a nearly complete academy promo with great quality to listen to! punk
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008 edited
    DemonStar wrote
    NP: Pirates Of The Caribbean 3 - At World's End - Hans Zimmer

    One of the best Zimmer scores of the 2000s after The Thin Red Line and The Da Vinci Code.


    I love that score! love I think I may like it slightly more than the other two, but if so, not by much. His new themes are all brilliant, and I love how towards the end of Drink Up Me Hearties Yo Ho he combines the Up Is Down theme and the Will/Elizabeth string theme. I Don't think Now Is the Best Time is also one of my favorite action tracks. Fantastic! punk biggrin
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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
    I can't believe they removed the first part of The Huns Attack scene (where Shang-Yu appears over the horizon) from Mulan soundtrack. It's the coolest piece of music any Disney movies ever had! I'd like to hear it outside the movie...

    NP: Princess Mononoke: Symphonic Suite - Joe Hisaishi
    One of the most famous film music in Japan cool
    So emotional and beautiful, powerful and sorrowful at the same time...
    Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008 edited
    Timmer wrote
    When was the last time there was an in-depth conversation on this board about truly great scores like this rather than the page after page analysis of RC / MV mediocrity. rolleyes


    Agreed. This is one of the reasons why I've decided to limit my participation on this board. The Zimmer/RC conversations are becoming just as generic and clichéd as his music is.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!